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[CNash]

Hi! How much does a Space Channel 5 Part 2 PS2 PAL game cost?

I'd also like to know about this game. I have a PAL, UK release of Space Channel 5 Part 2 (distinct from the European edition due to having different ratings labels - the UK version doesn't have USK). This seems to be one of a very small batch of released copies; all sources (including the rarity guide) indicate that it was never released in the UK, but the existance of the copy in my possession - and the few being sold on Amazon Marketplace - would appear to refute this. Most likely it was released and then recalled very quickly.

I can take photos of my copy if you'd like proof (or are just curious) - it's complete with manual.

[Parodius]

The xbox version of Robotech Battlecry Collector's Edition seems to be missing from the database.

[Gameguy]

There's a few mistakes with the guide so I thought I'd post them here.

Metroid for the NES;
The problem is with the description. It says no sequel appeared until the Super NES release of Super Metroid, but there was a sequel for the Game Boy that came out before Super Metroid.

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=5892


Impossimole for the Turbografx-16;
The title of this game is misspelled. It should be "Impossamole".

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=8258


Sora Kiba: Operation Code Vapor Trail for the Genesis/Mega Drive;
The first part of the title has been mistranslated from Japanese, the title should be "Ku-u-ga: Operation Code Vapor Trail" as that's what's actually on the front of the cover(though very small in print). Maybe some members here who know Japanese well can confirm this. I'm not sure if it should be Ku-u-ga or Kuuga as both ways seem to be common spellings.

Here's a cover scan so you can see for yourself.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/md/kuuga.jpg

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=30965

[nensondubois]

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/listing.cmf

The Resident Evil Bonus Disc is not listed. It is uncommon. I'm not talking about the Resident Evil 4 Preview Disc. The 1080 avalanche Bonus disc isn't listed as well as the Pac-Man Vs. Bonus Disc with Pac-Man World also.

[Wolvezbyte]

Alright, ever since the new Godzilla movie released this year, there have been a Noticable rise in demand for select Godzilla games (mainly on Xbox). Iv seen them
sell for around 30 dollarsc (Surprising since they used to sell for 10 bucks). Maybe even 20 dollars for a loose disc (Though I doubt this). A Re-Spark in Nostalgia factor for many a fan of Old School Godzilla is the probable Culprit behind the rise in Demand. And because a Godzilla sequel is planned in the next 2 years. There is a good Reason to start Investing in the Godzilla games for SNES and Xbox while they are affordable. Make no Mistake. These games ARE NOT RARE but There is a Demand coming. So I hope you update the list. For the Record I used Pricecharting.com for my research.

[peeingas]

I also don't know if I'd say Stack Up cartridges are "quite common"

[SparTonberry]

Even less common since resellers started harvesting them for Famicom converters.

[mumbai]

However, if I had to speak my part, I'd bump the value to $25 and raise the rarity one notch from R4 to R5. This still places it below Jungle Hunt (R6/$30), but properly distances it from the more common Atarisoft titles of Defender and Centipede (both R3).

I agree that Galaxian is much harder to find than Centipede and Defender, but rather than raising Galaxian, perhaps Centipede and Defender should be lowered? I would suggest ratings of R2/$5 for both (I bought them sealed for less than that).

I'd still like to see Galaxian raised, in value, if not in rarity. I know eBay isn't the only yardstick, but for the past three or so years, it would require a small stroke of luck to pick up the game for under $20 as a loose cartridge. That's with both labels intact, as a lot of copies floating around are missing the spine label. It's just not an easy find, and I know I'd never let one go for $15, and I tend to trade out items "below book" in most cases.

I'm not so sure about lowering either Defender or Centipede at all. Although there is at least one large stash of NOS copies (and yes, I've purchased sealed copies at or below $5 apiece as well), taking in the big picture, they are justifiably R3. Neither Centipede nor Defender show up in quantities outside that NOS stash all that much -- far more often than Galaxian or Jungle Hunt, but not nearly so often as I think an R2 game should/would (even taking into account NOS).

[hydr0x]

imho this rarity is off by one or too numbers

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=12514

it's the Exertainment Double Pack (Mountain Bike Rally / Speed Racer)

this is the game that basically only surfaced sealed from some warehouse stock, right? how many copies were found there?? i can't believe there were more than 100. Compare this with other games, e.g. NWC 1990 (NES), which has 116 copies and is an R10. Shouldn't the Exertainment Double also be a R10 and if not at least an R9??

it also doesn't stand a comparison with other SNES R8s, like Fun N Games with 2000 produced units.

I understand it could be possible that a few thousand of the exertainment cart actually exist somewhere, but i'm pretty sure those are not in circulation (and maybe will never be) and shouldn't the rarity the reflect the actual availability of the game?!?

[digitalpress]

FYI foks, I'm just getting caught up with this thread and have addressed everything mentioned here in the actual database. You won't see the changes immediately but you will see them in the next update scheduled later tonight.

One slight hitch: the PSX guys have the current version of the PSX database - so though I've made some changes on my side, ultimately it will be up to them to change their files as well.

Thanks for the feedback. Keep it coming!

[hydr0x]

just to add this to my snes complain:

i also think that either the SNES COmp. carts should be raised to R10 (how many actually exist??) or the NWC lowered to R9, i have the feeling those should be in the same category, but maybe i haven't got a clue about US rarity

[digitalpress]

just to add this to my snes complain:

i also think that either the SNES COmp. carts should be raised to R10 (how many actually exist??) or the NWC lowered to R9, i have the feeling those should be in the same category, but maybe i haven't got a clue about US rarity

No way.

When I went looking for a StarFox and DK Country comp cart, I found them both within two months and didn't pay more than $250 for either (and the DK one was boxed).

They're not even in the same league as the NWC cart.

[anagrama]

Aren't there like 2500 of each the competition carts or something?

[D_N_G]

imho this rarity is off by one or too numbers

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=12514

it's the Exertainment Double Pack (Mountain Bike Rally / Speed Racer)

this is the game that basically only surfaced sealed from some warehouse stock, right? how many copies were found there?? i can't believe there were more than 100. Compare this with other games, e.g. NWC 1990 (NES), which has 116 copies and is an R10. Shouldn't the Exertainment Double also be a R10 and if not at least an R9??

it also doesn't stand a comparison with other SNES R8s, like Fun N Games with 2000 produced units.

I understand it could be possible that a few thousand of the exertainment cart actually exist somewhere, but i'm pretty sure those are not in circulation (and maybe will never be) and shouldn't the rarity the reflect the actual availability of the game?!?

This is not entirely true, my first copy for example was found at a gamestop loose for 4.99. There are many fitness outlets that probably also have copies with the accompanying fitness exertainment equipment, and have seen some on ebay bundled this way

Currently this should remain an R8, with a possibility of moving rarity for the future as more facts and findings come through. No sense in Grailing this until we can solidly prove it.

It's Better to be cautious in cases like this, and remember this is our first attempt at rating SNES, so many things are sure to slide around as we get all the input

[hydr0x]

Aren't there like 2500 of each the competition carts or something?

well if the number is really anywhere that high than it of course is by far not an R10, sorry

@DNG

ah i didn't know any surfaced in the wild, so maybe they were only distributed to Fitness Outlets, have you tried asking some of the owners of those about it? i agree that if it was actually distributed to those a R8 fits quite good as there are many Fitness Outlets, if it was only marketed to those though and wasn't successfull at all imho a R9 would fit it better, but as you said we should wait and see before we rate it to high....

thinking about this, i know there's not a real borderline between R8 and R9, but how do you decide this? i have about 5 titles in this borderline area for PAL SNES and i was wondering.... also if Fun n Games was really limited to 2000, and R10 goes up to ~200 copies i was wondering if Fun n Games shouldn't already be a R9

[anagrama]

also if Fun n Games was really limited to 2000, and R10 goes up to ~200 copies i was wondering if Fun n Games shouldn't already be a R9

Since when did R10 go up to 200 copies?

The FAQ clearly states:
"R10: Not only is this the centerpiece of a collection, but a ten also means you could be holding a one-of-a-kind (certainly one of no more than a dozen or so)"


ALso, the 2500 figure for the DK Comp Cart is clearly mentioned in it's DB description

[hydr0x]

also if Fun n Games was really limited to 2000, and R10 goes up to ~200 copies i was wondering if Fun n Games shouldn't already be a R9

Since when did R10 go up to 200 copies?

The FAQ clearly states:
"R10: Not only is this the centerpiece of a collection, but a ten also means you could be holding a one-of-a-kind (certainly one of no more than a dozen or so)"


ALso, the 2500 figure for the DK Comp Cart is clearly mentioned in it's DB description

i know the R10 is defined like that in the FAQ, but it's not used like that, see NWC cart, but you're right on the R10 and i haven't had any game in any of my lists i would have even thought about R10, as i said it's more the R8<->R9 decision that's hard for me...

[anagrama]

What games are you unsure about?
Might be wise starting a PAL SNES thread and getting the considered opinion of other collectors?

Personally speaking, I'd consider games rated R9 to be those that have an extremely limited availability or distribution - the only ones I've assigned on my sections were SMS Smurfs 2 (only 30-40 copies known to be circulating, all found in the Czech Republic) and the PAL Good Deal Games MegaCD releases (around 5 copies of each pressed).

Also, as DNG said above, in cases of real uncertainty it's almost always best to err on the side of caution and give them the lower rating - it can always be changed later if further information surfaces, and that's always preferable than risking over-rating something.

And I know there were at least 116 copies of the NWC '90 manufactured, but that's really the exception rather than the rule - after all, it is one of, if not THE, Holy Grail of videogame collecting

[hydr0x]

Personally speaking, I'd consider games rated R9 to be those that have an extremely limited availability or distribution - the only ones I've assigned on my sections were SMS Smurfs 2 (only 30-40 copies known to be circulating, all found in the Czech Republic) and the PAL Good Deal Games MegaCD releases (around 5 copies of each pressed).

well, the Mega CD games MUST be R10 with 5 copies per game, no way they are classified as R9!!

the games i'm talking about are actually games only published in one country (either Spain or Italy), so that would make them qualify. i will open up a topic about them but i'm pretty sure it won't really help as one of the games actually wasn't known at all until i found it during snes research

[Gapporin]

A little threadjack here:

I was looking in the Atari section, and I noticed that the Touch Pad was given a R2. Then, I saw that Star Raiders (w/ Touch Pad) was given a R1. Does this mean that Star Raiders is more common than the Touch Pad? Should the Touch Pad be an R1 or R2?