Most Disappointing "2" Sequel? - Page 3

retrocollectorguy · 08-07-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skaar

Oh! Bubble Bobble Part 2. Horrible horrible NES game. It's not even 2 player simultaneous! The biggest piece of garbage I'd ever seen... I was SHOCKED at how bad it was when I tried it recently.

It always amazes me how much people pay for this shitty COMMON game. When there are 10 copies on ebay weekly why the hell would anyone pay $100 for one? Most overhyped game on the NES by far.

Peonpiate · 08-14-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shady Smurf

Sadly, Chrono Cross from Chrono Trigger, sure it was a good game, but no Trigger

I agree with that 100%. The story was cryptic and made little sense. To many characters to play as, almost all with no personality outside of a 1 sentence intro speach when they joined. Little in common with the original game. All in all, it seemed to have been desighned as showcase of PSX graghics and sound over gameplay...The graghics even today are still good and the music is excellent. Cant say the same about the gameplay though.

I believe this sequel is what killed the series, despite there being a few fanboys of it [chrono cross].

Peonpiate · 08-14-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baby_bytes

Heh...i didn't really like Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island...I agree with you, they should have just kept the mario format but with different levels and maybe in a different land..he saved yoshi's home and the princess...so why not another person's or creature...at least they recompensed (sorry for the mispelling) with Super Mario RPG

even tho it wasn't really of a follow up...anyways talking about the RPG...even tho i haven't played Paper Mario...it doesn't really look as good as SMRPG...

Paper mario isnt as good as Mario RPG but its not terrible. Its worth playing if you havnt yet, its probably one of the better RPGs released since it came out [RPG quality has shot down since the SNES era imo]. Also the Gamecube release is better than Mario RPG by a tad and has alot of replay to it with a Arena. All 3 are great games and I played them to death...the WII release however sucks and killed the series [imo].

TRM · 08-14-2009, 10:57 PM

Mega Man 2 (gameboy version)...hehe. The soundtrack was so horrible to me, and the game was waaay too easy.

When I first read the title of this thread, I knew that for NES, the choice picks that everyone seems to complain about are Zelda 2, Castlevania 2 and Mario 2. I really loved Castlevania 2 back in the day, and still like it. Mario 2 I liked, did not like when I discovered the truth, and then came into an opinion that the game was okay, although more difficult than Mario 1 and 3, but not as good. However, I have been playing the game a lot recently, and rediscovered how fun the game is. Looking at it from a marketing standpoint, if the game was released in America as Doki Doki Panic (or however you want to translate that), it probably would not have sold many copies. Nintendo felt the game was worthy of a stateside release, make it Mario 2, and all of a sudden lots of people are playing the game and enjoying it. In the end, I'm glad that I got to play the game, good stuff.

As for Zelda 2, it is another NES game which receives so much hate. I only played both of the NES Zelda games probably around 1998/9 for the first time, never had them back in the day. I enjoyed them both a lot, and although I found the second Zelda a bit difficult at spots, still feel that it is a solid game.

As a few others have mentioned regarding SMW 2, I enjoy it, but do not consider it a true sequel to SMW. As great as SMW was, I might have preffered a true sequel as opposed to SMW 2, but the game as an independent is still fun.

ToddofDoom · 09-02-2009, 01:26 PM

There aren't that many sequels that have really let me down. Most sequels I enjoy. Super C and Mario Kart 64 disappointed me the most, but those don't have "2" in the title.

Here are a few titles that let me down:

God of War 2: The gameplay was there, the story didn't interest me. I mainly just screwed around and zoned out through a story I didn't care for.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Same as God of War 2. Playing the game wasn't bad, but the characters and story weren't very interesting. Plus, it seemed like there was a lack of boss battles compared to 1 and 3. Metal Gear Solid games are all about bosses for me.

RPG Maker II: I really enjoyed making screwy games for the first RPG Maker. There seemed to be less options and less screwy enemies and characters in the second one, thus I could never make an "Angry Donkey and the Legend of the Barnyard Warlock" sequel game for the sequel.

Kid Icarus 2: Disappoints me by not existing. Maybe I should have made that with RPG Maker II.

Those are the only ones that really stand out. I've suffered other small letdowns, but nothing major. I've also suffered some bigger let downs on sequels past 2.

I didn't own any consoles during a large part of the Playstation/Saturn/N64 era so that might have saved me from a few disappointments. Also, I never had a Genesis as a kid. Growing up a little poor and not buying a lot of sequels probably helped me not be upset at bad sequels.

FamicomFreak · 09-04-2009, 04:46 AM

Personally I would say Alundra 2 for the PS1. I was so disapointed because I loved Alundra 1 and their cut scenes, puzzles, etc etc....then I got this one and I was like......ok....this sucks....

Ruudos · 09-04-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ToddofDoom

Kid Icarus 2: Disappoints me by not existing. Maybe I should have made that with RPG Maker II.

Actually Kid Icarus 2 does exist for Game Boy, although it doesn't have "2" in the title.

Daria · 09-05-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peonpiate

Paper mario isnt as good as Mario RPG but its not terrible. Its worth playing if you havnt yet, its probably one of the better RPGs released since it came out [RPG quality has shot down since the SNES era imo]. Also the Gamecube release is better than Mario RPG by a tad and has alot of replay to it with a Arena. All 3 are great games and I played them to death...the WII release however sucks and killed the series [imo].

Paper Mario's not as good, it's actually better. :P

sonic-boom · 09-05-2009, 02:20 AM

Super Mario Bros. 2 - It was a ok game but nothing compared to the original. It's the odd one out in the Super Mario series.

Zelda 2 also isn't as good, same reason as Super Mario Bros. 2

eliteking727 · 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM

Its not a true sequel.. but Paper Mario.. I was lead to believe it would be a worthy successor of my #1 favorite game.. Super Mario RPG... boy was I wrong..

Aussie2B · 11-07-2009, 08:18 PM

Most disappointing to me would have to be Chrono Cross. I adore the original and I got so hyped up for the sequel, watching a video of the magnificent (mostly because of Scars of Time, probably the single best song in any video game) intro over and over. I pre-ordered it, picked it up the day it came out, and spent the next few days playing it pretty much non-stop. And even though I was trying to convince myself of its greatness through the whole game, the longer I played the more it dawned upon me that I was more and more forcing myself through it rather than legitimately enjoying it. In the end, it left a really sour taste in my mouth, and it put me off to the game as a whole for a few years. Which is a damn shame because when I separated them from my memories of actually playing the game, I truly love the aesthetics of the game. Between Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuteru Yuuki, you couldn't have a better dream team in my book. So it's funny, I own more merchandise for Chrono Cross than many of my favorite games between the clock, guide book, art book, soundtrack, etc.

Speaking of convincing myself that I love game, Tetris 2 on SNES was one of my childhood games that I tried to blind myself as to how I really felt about it. I think it was the second or third SNES game I ever owned, so I didn't have much of any option but to play it a ton. For some reason a commercial on TV convinced me that I had to have it, so I actually paid the full MSRP, probably 70 bucks, on that stinker. These days I'm not even a huge fan of the original (blasphemy, I know), so Tetris 2 was an especially stupid purchase.

And even though I still love the game, I'm going to say Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria because it pales in comparison to the original. Something about the game just doesn't sit right with me. It's probably a combination of a lot of things - the washed out blue/grey/brown color palette of the game, the barely noticeable music, the happier atmosphere of towns, the overall unlikable main cast and story, the storyless einherjar, the lack of beautiful Kou and You Yoshinari portraits during dialogue, the completely changed ice crystals, the battle system that can't decide if it wants to be like Valkyrie Profile or Star Ocean 3, so on and so on. Still a well-crafted, fun game, but not exactly the sequel I was hoping for nor one of tri-Ace's best. Call me crazy, but I actually had a lot more fun with Radiata Stories, a tri-Ace game that practically everybody hates.

09-04-2009, 04:46 AM	#56
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08-14-2009, 10:57 PM	#54
TRM Pac-Man (Level 10) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: PA Posts: 2,678	Mega Man 2 (gameboy version)...hehe. The soundtrack was so horrible to me, and the game was waaay too easy. When I first read the title of this thread, I knew that for NES, the choice picks that everyone seems to complain about are Zelda 2, Castlevania 2 and Mario 2. I really loved Castlevania 2 back in the day, and still like it. Mario 2 I liked, did not like when I discovered the truth, and then came into an opinion that the game was okay, although more difficult than Mario 1 and 3, but not as good. However, I have been playing the game a lot recently, and rediscovered how fun the game is. Looking at it from a marketing standpoint, if the game was released in America as Doki Doki Panic (or however you want to translate that), it probably would not have sold many copies. Nintendo felt the game was worthy of a stateside release, make it Mario 2, and all of a sudden lots of people are playing the game and enjoying it. In the end, I'm glad that I got to play the game, good stuff. As for Zelda 2, it is another NES game which receives so much hate. I only played both of the NES Zelda games probably around 1998/9 for the first time, never had them back in the day. I enjoyed them both a lot, and although I found the second Zelda a bit difficult at spots, still feel that it is a solid game. As a few others have mentioned regarding SMW 2, I enjoy it, but do not consider it a true sequel to SMW. As great as SMW was, I might have preffered a true sequel as opposed to SMW 2, but the game as an independent is still fun.

09-02-2009, 01:26 PM	#55
ToddofDoom Pancake Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: I live in the house I was born in, I built it with my own two hands. Posts: 51	There aren't that many sequels that have really let me down. Most sequels I enjoy. Super C and Mario Kart 64 disappointed me the most, but those don't have "2" in the title. Here are a few titles that let me down: God of War 2: The gameplay was there, the story didn't interest me. I mainly just screwed around and zoned out through a story I didn't care for. Metal Gear Solid 2: Same as God of War 2. Playing the game wasn't bad, but the characters and story weren't very interesting. Plus, it seemed like there was a lack of boss battles compared to 1 and 3. Metal Gear Solid games are all about bosses for me. RPG Maker II: I really enjoyed making screwy games for the first RPG Maker. There seemed to be less options and less screwy enemies and characters in the second one, thus I could never make an "Angry Donkey and the Legend of the Barnyard Warlock" sequel game for the sequel. Kid Icarus 2: Disappoints me by not existing. Maybe I should have made that with RPG Maker II. Those are the only ones that really stand out. I've suffered other small letdowns, but nothing major. I've also suffered some bigger let downs on sequels past 2. I didn't own any consoles during a large part of the Playstation/Saturn/N64 era so that might have saved me from a few disappointments. Also, I never had a Genesis as a kid. Growing up a little poor and not buying a lot of sequels probably helped me not be upset at bad sequels.

09-05-2009, 02:20 AM	#59
sonic-boom Insert Coin (Level 0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 13	Super Mario Bros. 2 - It was a ok game but nothing compared to the original. It's the odd one out in the Super Mario series. Zelda 2 also isn't as good, same reason as Super Mario Bros. 2

11-07-2009, 11:39 AM	#60
eliteking727 Insert Coin (Level 0) Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1	Its not a true sequel.. but Paper Mario.. I was lead to believe it would be a worthy successor of my #1 favorite game.. Super Mario RPG... boy was I wrong..

11-07-2009, 08:18 PM	#61
Aussie2B The one and only tri-Ace Super Fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,755	Most disappointing to me would have to be Chrono Cross. I adore the original and I got so hyped up for the sequel, watching a video of the magnificent (mostly because of Scars of Time, probably the single best song in any video game) intro over and over. I pre-ordered it, picked it up the day it came out, and spent the next few days playing it pretty much non-stop. And even though I was trying to convince myself of its greatness through the whole game, the longer I played the more it dawned upon me that I was more and more forcing myself through it rather than legitimately enjoying it. In the end, it left a really sour taste in my mouth, and it put me off to the game as a whole for a few years. Which is a damn shame because when I separated them from my memories of actually playing the game, I truly love the aesthetics of the game. Between Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuteru Yuuki, you couldn't have a better dream team in my book. So it's funny, I own more merchandise for Chrono Cross than many of my favorite games between the clock, guide book, art book, soundtrack, etc. Speaking of convincing myself that I love game, Tetris 2 on SNES was one of my childhood games that I tried to blind myself as to how I really felt about it. I think it was the second or third SNES game I ever owned, so I didn't have much of any option but to play it a ton. For some reason a commercial on TV convinced me that I had to have it, so I actually paid the full MSRP, probably 70 bucks, on that stinker. These days I'm not even a huge fan of the original (blasphemy, I know), so Tetris 2 was an especially stupid purchase. And even though I still love the game, I'm going to say Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria because it pales in comparison to the original. Something about the game just doesn't sit right with me. It's probably a combination of a lot of things - the washed out blue/grey/brown color palette of the game, the barely noticeable music, the happier atmosphere of towns, the overall unlikable main cast and story, the storyless einherjar, the lack of beautiful Kou and You Yoshinari portraits during dialogue, the completely changed ice crystals, the battle system that can't decide if it wants to be like Valkyrie Profile or Star Ocean 3, so on and so on. Still a well-crafted, fun game, but not exactly the sequel I was hoping for nor one of tri-Ace's best. Call me crazy, but I actually had a lot more fun with Radiata Stories, a tri-Ace game that practically everybody hates.