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    Default Ikaruga on Xbox Live Arcade

    http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/14/ik...x-live-arcade/

    I wouldn't be opposed to having a library of classic and neo-classic shmups on my 360. Let's hope this is just the beginning.

    And hi-res makes it worth purchase regardless if you already have it on DC or GCN. :P
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    Another homerun for XBLA.




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    sweet! Let's not forget acheivments too. At least you'll earn something for the difficulty.

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    I already have the Dreamcast import, but I'll buy this again if they make it 800 points. XBLA leaderboards, online multiplayer, and achievement points seal the deal.
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    Wow, XBLA is really kicking the crap out of the Wii Shop.

    Looks like I'm going to have to pick up a 360 sooner than later

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    The more games that are released for XB arcade that I actually own (double dragon, burgetime, castlevania, etc.) the more I wonder about the original's potential collectibility. I love my carts and my actual copies--don't get me wrong--but it just seems like a clear devaluation of the originals.

    Take Ikaruga. Who is going to value the low-rez Gamecube verion even worth owning (let alone valuing it ~ $50) if you can buy a high def version for around $15?

    I can't imagine ever pulling out my cube version--ever--if this happens. Is this good or bad? I don't actually know yet...I do love HD.
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    I appear to have messed my pants in delight. I don't have a 360, but I plan to get one soon enough. Even then, I'll still track down the Cube version of the game.
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    The cube version will always be in demand. Why? because it is on a media disc. Sure the XBLA version will be prettier, but collectors dont care about that. A perfect example of this are Nes games. The Wii being able to play roms have not devalued Nes games at all, it has just made more collectors. New systems playing old games has been around awhile. For people who strictly play their games this is awsome. Game Collectors are a different breed and like to collect things in categories by type, genere, company, etc. As for playability, I have to say that this is cool for Xbox 360 owners who have thier system online. For the rest, I guess we will have to settle with the DC or GC version.
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    If I still had my 360 I'd seriously contemplate getting the VGA cable so I could hook the think up to my WS rotating monitor so I could play it in HD AND on the vertical orientation. . .maybe I'll get another 360 in a year or two . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by slip81 View Post
    If I still had my 360 I'd seriously contemplate getting the VGA cable so I could hook the think up to my WS rotating monitor so I could play it in HD AND on the vertical orientation. . .maybe I'll get another 360 in a year or two . . .
    I've done that with the Gamecube Ikaruga, and it's absurd how much more entertaining the game is. This would be an immediate purchase for me if I had a 360.

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    Ugh, why Ikaruga? The game wasn't that good!

    I'd much rather them put out Radiant Silvergun so I wouldn't have to pay out the ass to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubersaurus View Post
    Ugh, why Ikaruga? The game wasn't that good!

    I'd much rather them put out Radiant Silvergun so I wouldn't have to pay out the ass to try it.
    Ikaruga = overated
    Granted its a decent game but by far not the best imho. I personally like Radiant Silvergun better myself.

    I think the best thing will be online multiplayer? Though I never liked the ship bumping. But what if I want to play in tate and my friend doesn't? How would that work?

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    The more games that are released for XB arcade that I actually own (double dragon, burgetime, castlevania, etc.) the more I wonder about the original's potential collectibility. I love my carts and my actual copies--don't get me wrong--but it just seems like a clear devaluation of the originals.

    Take Ikaruga. Who is going to value the low-rez Gamecube verion even worth owning (let alone valuing it ~ $50) if you can buy a high def version for around $15?

    I can't imagine ever pulling out my cube version--ever--if this happens. Is this good or bad? I don't actually know yet...I do love HD.
    Purist prefer these games to be in their original arcade low res form. I don't get it either but many of people have slammed the Taito ports of Cave games for this reason

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    What's the differences between Radiant Silvergun & Ikaruga

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarioMania View Post
    What's the differences between Radiant Silvergun & Ikaruga
    Two entirely different games from Treasure. Many consider RS to be THE quitensential (sp?) shooter. Ikaruga is a "spiritual" successor to RS, and honestly has very little in common gameplay wise with the exception of it being a shmup. Think of RS as a traditional shmup on roids. Ikaruga has a puzzle-like element that involves a "switch-button" to flip your ship from black to white. Your enemies are either black or white, and there are strategic reasons as to when and which color to shoot as. Confused? Don't be. Just play it.

    I like Ikaruga, but you just can't touch RS for pure all-out shooting action. The story is also totally treasure, which makes it all the more worth it. (Yes, I did look up and read the translation). The only sad thing is that I haven't ever spent the money on buying a real legit copy of Radiant. I really should just sell some shit and do it. Although, I do own Ikaruga on DC and GC.
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    Icky and RS = both overrated.

    That is all. :P

    (Good news for 360 fans anyway. Overrated shmups > no shmups.)

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    This news makes my XB360 hard drive cry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarioMania View Post
    What's the differences between Radiant Silvergun & Ikaruga
    About the only thing they DO have in common is chaining. This is where you shoot a consecutive number of like colored enemies to increase score. Ikaruga has 2 colors and Radiant Silvergun has 3.

    In all honesty Radiant Silvergun is highly overated too especially since it carries a high price tag. I own the game and I DO like it but some are too quick to name it the end all be all shootie. However both Ikaruga and RSG have great scores. I do know that the fellow who did FF Tactics also did the score for RSG.

    In the end, its good that a decent shootie will be available on XBLA for all to play and therefore make their own judgements.
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    Cool. There aren't too many XBLA titles that grab me, but this is definitely on my list.

    Quote Originally Posted by ubersaurus View Post
    Ugh, why Ikaruga? The game wasn't that good!
    Yes, it was and it still is. Those who say otherwise are mostly maladjusted shooter fans who don't like a game more popular than they are. It's the gaming equivalent of music geeks who decry good, critically acclaimed bands in favor of a lesser-known indie act that makes songs entirely by recording bursts of diarrhea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Fenris View Post
    Cool. There aren't too many XBLA titles that grab me, but this is definitely on my list.



    Yes, it was and it still is. Those who say otherwise are mostly maladjusted shooter fans who don't like a game more popular than they are. It's the gaming equivalent of music geeks who decry good, critically acclaimed bands in favor of a lesser-known indie act that makes songs entirely by recording bursts of diarrhea.
    Bullplop. I bought Ikaruga the day it came out on cube, and spent the next few days putting time into it. After the first day I was practically forcing myself to play it, and even now I only pull it out once in a great while. Certainly it's got a large fan base, but I'm not really among it...never got into those sorts of bullet spam style games. There's much better vertical shooters to play, both well known and obscure.

    Really, I question how popular Ikaruga would be if it didn't have the names Treasure and Radiant Silvergun associated with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Wrong View Post
    Icky and RS = both overrated.

    That is all. :P

    (Good news for 360 fans anyway. Overrated shmups > no shmups.)
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    I agree there are better shooters out there, but there are no other shooters quite like Ikaruga. Plus the presentation is (nearly) unmatched. The fact that it is a Treasure game only raised the expectations for the game, and most weren't disappointed.

    Hoorah for Ikaruga on Live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubersaurus View Post
    Bullplop. I bought Ikaruga the day it came out on cube, and spent the next few days putting time into it. After the first day I was practically forcing myself to play it, and even now I only pull it out once in a great while. Certainly it's got a large fan base, but I'm not really among it...never got into those sorts of bullet spam style games.
    Ikaruga isn't a bullet-spam shooter; it's very much a pattern-based one. There's nothing wrong with liking only projectile-hell shooters, but I've yet to read a convincing explanation of why Ikaruga isn't a good, well-designed game.

    Really, I question how popular Ikaruga would be if it didn't have the names Treasure and Radiant Silvergun associated with it.
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    I really don't wanna get into the whole Icky think again, but I do wanna cosign on this thought:

    Quote Originally Posted by ubersaurus View Post
    Really, I question how popular Ikaruga would be if it didn't have the names Treasure and Radiant Silvergun associated with it.
    Trust me, I'd be pleased as punch if my beloved Raizing or Cave games were as popular as Icky. (Shit, anything that would mean the possibility of a US release would please me greatly.) To say it's "mostly maladjusted shooter fans who don't like a game more popular than they are" claiming Icky is overrated is kind of funny as it seems to me that it's mostly people who haven't played many shmups or who know little about the genre who seem to be praising it to the heavens.

    At any rate, let's just say I'm glad a shmup, even one I feel is overrated, is going to be available to a wider audience so people can make up their own minds. Fair enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Wrong View Post
    say it's "mostly maladjusted shooter fans who don't like a game more popular than they are" claiming Icky is overrated is kind of funny as it seems to me that it's mostly people who haven't played many shmups or who know little about the genre who seem to be praising it to the heavens.
    Not really. It was the hardcore shooter crowd that praised Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga in the first place. It was only after the games became popular that any kind of backlash arose.

    Moreover, there's a clear tradeoff between experience and standards when it comes to the devoted shooter scene. Sometimes, it seems like they'll buy and obsess over just about any mediocre Raiden-esque retread that's not clinically proven to cause herpes.
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    Hated Silvergun, loved Ikaruga. This is too sweet. MS should get Under Defeat too, hell maybe even Last Hope on Live. That would kick ass

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