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    If I have a 95% chance of a gamecube game working on Wii, and a 90% chance of a PS2 game working on a PS3, then the Wii is more compatible backwardly.
    And add in the PS1 games too. Even if the percentage is lower, the total number of games isn't even close between the two.
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    i have a friend that never had a cube but is getting a wii for xmas and hes really intrested in gc compatability. is the wii really 100% compatable with all GC games? with no known problems what so ever? not counting the 16:9 issues.

    i know there was a few ps1 games the ps2 can't handle and i know about the 360 issues and now i know about the ps3 problems but can someone confirm the perfectness of wii compatability? and why can nintendo pull off 100% compatability and no one else can?

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    You know, for Sony to make a claim like that in advertising, I'm sure it is true. However, for it to be true, you have to look at how they did their study. For example, maybe they mean "without connecting it to the Internet." Without going online, the Xbox 360 isn't backward compatible. Also they could be defining "backward compatible" as being able to insert physical media from all previous console versions (the Wii won't take old Nintendo carts).

    I'm not condoning the statement, but rather just pointing out that there's most likely an asterix there somewhere that clarifies exactly what they mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet Conscript View Post
    i have a friend that never had a cube but is getting a wii for xmas and hes really intrested in gc compatability. is the wii really 100% compatable with all GC games? with no known problems what so ever? not counting the 16:9 issues.

    i know there was a few ps1 games the ps2 can't handle and i know about the 360 issues and now i know about the ps3 problems but can someone confirm the perfectness of wii compatability? and why can nintendo pull off 100% compatability and no one else can?
    Issues with the Wii's BC seem to be few and far between. The Wii is incompatible with the Game Boy Player and there might be issues with certain third-party GCN memory cards. However, if your friend wanna play GCN games on the Wii, he'll need a GameCube controller (can be the Wavebird) and a GameCube memory card.

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    The 360 doesn't need to be connected to the web for BC to be activated - users can just download the necessary software for the 360 onto a CD and burn that to the drive to get BC to work.

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    I wonder if Mario Kart: Double Dash can still be LANed with the wii's networking capabilities. I'm guessing not, but that would be pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    A lie?

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    No, it's not a lie...it's an omission less heinous than Sony's.
    Damn, I love Star Trek II, it is the mightiest Star Trek movie of all, although 6 was pretty good too IMHO.

    Back on topic, as someone stated, there may be difining terms if Sony is indeed claiming the PS3 is the "only backwards compatible next-gen console". Such as; hardware based instead of emulator-based, no additional downloads/content required, etc, etc. These days you claim pretty much anything you want if you have enough disclaimers afterwards... Just take a listen to your typical radio/tv new car advertisements...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPeeples View Post
    The 360 doesn't need to be connected to the web for BC to be activated - users can just download the necessary software for the 360 onto a CD and burn that to the drive to get BC to work.
    Yep, although a hard drive is required for backwards compatibility. So technically speaking, you could say that the core Xbox 360 is not backwards compatible... although smart people will realize that it's just an upgrade away.

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    That does not look to bad I tried playing Parasite Eve for the PS1 on my PS2 with the high def component cable and it looked like total crap in the game mode in the cut scenes it was not horrible buy it was bad.

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    How about PS1/PS2 MC on the PS3...

    Flack - you bring up a good point, But the Wii is B/C with the GC Games out of the box also

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubersaurus View Post
    I wonder if Mario Kart: Double Dash can still be LANed with the wii's networking capabilities. I'm guessing not, but that would be pretty awesome.
    OH MY GOSH i didnt EVEN think of that, that would be awsome

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    Well I hope it takes the cube disks, as that's what I want for Christmas and my wife hoards the gamecube to play Harvest Moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njiska View Post
    Actually that is a straight out lie. The Wii is less BC then the PS3. PS3 plays Playstation and PS2 Games and it does so simply by inserting the disc. The Wii is only BC with the GC (which it does a shitty job of if you have a 16x9 display) everything else is not backwards compatibility, it's new content. Because you can't load the original media and must purchase the content again it is not backwards compatible.

    As for the original statement it is the the most backwards compatible system. Far more then the 360 and far deeper then the Wii. It's the only system nearly fully backwards compatible across two generations. That being said it sure does suck at it.
    I can see where you coming from, but how can you say something like that unless you've played a sh!t load of ps2 and ps1 with a ps3. There will be plenty of games that wont run on the ps3, as with the 360 it doesnt run every xbox title.

    On a funny note, i went past a PS3 store display, and the latest news from Sony is the PS3 is so backwards compatible, it can play EVEN GC, Xbox, 360, and mega CD games, its truely amazing, even jesus has one!..... Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shawn View Post
    Well I hope it takes the cube disks, as that's what I want for Christmas and my wife hoards the gamecube to play Harvest Moon.
    It does, just place the disc in the system like you would a Wii game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predatorxs View Post
    I can see where you coming from, but how can you say something like that unless you've played a sh!t load of ps2 and ps1 with a ps3. There will be plenty of games that wont run on the ps3, as with the 360 it doesnt run every xbox title.

    On a funny note, i went past a PS3 store display, and the latest news from Sony is the PS3 is so backwards compatible, it can play EVEN GC, Xbox, 360, and mega CD games, its truely amazing, even jesus has one!..... Amen!

    And you know this how? There is a physical PS2 inside the PS3 to achieve backwards compatibility. The list of games with "issues" isnt so bad at all really and the list of games that flat out wont work is really small.

    Sure it was ridiculous of Sony to say "only backwards compat next gen console", but for Nintendo fans to try to position that the Wii is somehow MORE backwards compat than the PS3 because it works with the meager library of Game Cube games (and of course, all assume it is 1000% compatible even though that benefit of the doubt is withheld from Sony) is ridiculous.

    There are thousands of PS2 and PS1 games. If the PS3 works with 90% of a library of thousands going back 2 generations and the Wii works with hundreds of last gen GC games, how can anyone make the statement that the GC has "superior backwards compat".

    The entire argument is just ridiculous anyway and yet another talking point for Wii fanatics. Its really getting discouraging on the forums how this whole thing is heading the way of "Mac vs PC" "debates".

    The Wii has been a huge success. Why isnt that enough? I never understand why so many people pick a favorite whatever and then not only want it to succeed, but somehow need everything else to fail.

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    "but for Nintendo fans to try to position that the Wii is somehow MORE backwards compat than the PS3 because it works with the meager library of Game Cube games (and of course, all assume it is 1000% compatible even though that benefit of the doubt is withheld from Sony) is ridiculous."

    Huh? 1000% compatibility? People are simply saying that there are basically no errors with the Wii running GC games, the same can't be said for the PS3, Sony even publishes a list of titles that has errors in BC mode. What is there to discuss? I'm guessing your choice in the next generation console wars was a PS3 which is why your going against logic in trying to make it out to be something it isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlambert890 View Post
    And you know this how? There is a physical PS2 inside the PS3 to achieve backwards compatibility. The list of games with "issues" isnt so bad at all really and the list of games that flat out wont work is really small.

    Sure it was ridiculous of Sony to say "only backwards compat next gen console", but for Nintendo fans to try to position that the Wii is somehow MORE backwards compat than the PS3 because it works with the meager library of Game Cube games (and of course, all assume it is 1000% compatible even though that benefit of the doubt is withheld from Sony) is ridiculous.

    There are thousands of PS2 and PS1 games. If the PS3 works with 90% of a library of thousands going back 2 generations and the Wii works with hundreds of last gen GC games, how can anyone make the statement that the GC has "superior backwards compat".

    The entire argument is just ridiculous anyway and yet another talking point for Wii fanatics. Its really getting discouraging on the forums how this whole thing is heading the way of "Mac vs PC" "debates".

    The Wii has been a huge success. Why isnt that enough? I never understand why so many people pick a favorite whatever and then not only want it to succeed, but somehow need everything else to fail.
    Hey mlambert890,

    I wasn't raining on the PS3 parade, and i DO have a Wii, to be honest the most important thing is not if its BC', but how good the new gen games are.

    Its good if new consoles can play "old" games as well, but its not the "be all, and end all" If the PS3 is all its made out to be, i'll be getting me one to!
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