View Poll Results: Will the Revolution Controller be revealed at TGS?

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  • Yep and Mario 128 will be shown demoing the new features of the controller

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  • Sort of. We'll understand parts of the controller but will be left wanting more!

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    My good people, please read this clip from the above posted article and relax.

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    Eurogamer: How is the controller going to work with games that aren't designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles and so on?

    Jim Merrick: We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded.

    So there's that option - but even while it's inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning and so on, so there are more options too.

    It's something that's just as true for the DS - not every game uses the DS's unique features. But some multi-platform titles do, like The Sims 2 for example. We hope other developers will do the same and look at ways their multi-platform titles can make use of the Revolution's features.

    Eurogamer: Some critics have voiced concerns about compatibility issues with all the different television standards around these days... Will the Revolution controller work with all types of tellies?

    Jim Merrick: I guarantee it. It works with LCDs, plasma screens, projectors... Everything. It's not like the old lightgun technology, where you had the classic problem of requiring a CRT screen. But this isn't working on a scan line basis, so there are no issues there.

    Eurogamer: Is the freehand-style controller your trump card, or have we got more exciting stuff to look forward to?

    Jim Merrick: Let's just say we have more surprises in store.
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    I think this discussion has been fun and all, but it'll really depend on the feel and how easy it is to use. The shell is a good idea, and as long as it is supported and is standard, it may work for them. I just worry about it not being supported like the Xbox harddrive.

    Good point on the Mac there, Yoshi... but I don't think that Nintendo is going to be content being third place forever.

    Hey, I thought virtual reality helmets/glasses were a great idea, but look how far they went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu
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    Regular people love DDR and the Eye Toy. And they love it in droves. Give me a break.
    How many other companies are taking advantage of the EyeToy or the DDR mat?
    Oh come on, Britney's Dance Beat rocks.
    But it doesnt use the pad!!!!! Get it right buddy! ;P

    Sega has put stuff out for the EyeToy as has a few others (Nicktoons racing) and Konami's DDR Extreme has an Eyetoy playable mode in it.
    Fine Stu, making me look stupid , I'll just stick with Disney's DDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1lence
    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu
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    Regular people love DDR and the Eye Toy. And they love it in droves. Give me a break.
    How many other companies are taking advantage of the EyeToy or the DDR mat?
    Oh come on, Britney's Dance Beat rocks.
    But it doesnt use the pad!!!!! Get it right buddy! ;P

    Sega has put stuff out for the EyeToy as has a few others (Nicktoons racing) and Konami's DDR Extreme has an Eyetoy playable mode in it.
    Fine Stu, making me look stupid , I'll just stick with Disney's DDR.
    Hardly! I'm sure I can look even stupider as when I play Britneys Dance Beat... I sing along with all the songs. I know some people you can ask for verification.
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    I have a strage respect for Nintendo in so far they have the sack (or is it they've completely lost it?) to do something completely different. They may be crazy and this could be another gimmick, or they may be brilliant. Time will tell.

    I think it's funny that so many people are crying about this. Not suprizing, but funny. I want to try this myself before I make a judgement. Furthermore, SHOW ME THE GAMES!!!! I mean, how can anyone really predict anything without seeing the real games, not tech demos.

    I guess that's kind of the bottom line for me. Yeah the controller is part of the whole pacakage, but am I the only one who still cares about the games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanganRunner
    WOW

    I just watched the video and saw the pics for the first time. WOW.

    Far as I'm concerned, Nintendo has a winner here. I haven't been this excited about a Nintendo idea since Mario 64. The first-party games for this will be UNBELIEVABLE.

    And with that said, this DOES NOT AFFECT their third party situation in the least. That's WHY they have a second set of controller ports for Wavebirds, etc... Their third party situation will likely be about the same as it was on Gamecube, which is "okay", not terminal, not great, but "okay". But I think that the best first-party Nintendo games EVER will come out of this idea.

    Who do I write the check to?
    My sentiments exactly.

    The video blew me away, I'm expecting a lot out of this, Nintendo has never dissapointed me before, not even with the Virtual Boy.

    I think this is where my money is going next year, forget the 360 & the PS3...Revolution is where it's at, I'm pre-ordering as soon as I get the chance. Oh man, I'm having flashbacks of the times I was hyped out the ass for the Dreamcast and N64.

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    I have to admit that I was a bit skeptical when I first saw it. But after seeing the video, I can safely say that I've NEVER been this excited about a console. I absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on this.

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    its totaly garbadge..
    thats another dumb idea by nintendo...

    how the hell will you play games like Zelda and mario platformers ?

    fuck just forget nintendo... they just keep coming up with BS again and again... where are the fucking games we have been wating for this generation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    its totaly garbadge..
    thats another dumb idea by nintendo...
    And so quotes the boy with the Sony screen name. x_x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria
    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    its totaly garbadge..
    thats another dumb idea by nintendo...
    And so quotes the boy with the Sony screen name. x_x
    YES MY OPINION MUST ALWAYS BE COMBINES WITH MY NAME WHEN I AM NOT MENTIONING PS3 OR XBOX360

    just give it up you nintendo sheep..

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    Did you miss the part about the analog stick that plugs into the main part of the controller? Or the "shell" that would allow you to play games the traditional way?

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    Comedy gold.

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    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    its totaly garbadge..
    thats another dumb idea by nintendo...

    how the hell will you play games like Zelda and mario platformers ?

    fuck just forget nintendo... they just keep coming up with BS again and again... where are the fucking games we have been wating for this generation..
    Yeah, it sucks doesnt it. Them coming up with such BS LIKE 3-D platforming games..... I bet you complained about those then too because they wern't 2D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryomancer
    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

    too much sheepage to argue here especially at digitpress.com

    bottom line I hate the controller.. I just don't like the 2 hand concept...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryomancer
    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

    too much sheepage to argue here especially at digitpress.com

    bottom line I hate the controller.. I just don't like the 2 hand concept...
    Then how do you play any of your other controllers? That one handed ASCII RPG controller for the PS doesnt work on all THAT much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryomancer
    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

    too much sheepage to argue here especially at digitpress.com

    bottom line I hate the controller.. I just don't like the 2 hand concept...
    Oh but think of the possibility for H-games. One handed playability. Nintendo'll storm the Japanese market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daria
    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryomancer
    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

    too much sheepage to argue here especially at digitpress.com

    bottom line I hate the controller.. I just don't like the 2 hand concept...
    Oh but think of the possibility for H-games. One handed playability. Nintendo'll storm the Japanese market.
    Wow the possibilities are endless!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS2Hawk
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryomancer
    Yes, liking the prospect of new stuff in an era of total stagnation is SOOOOO sheep of us.

    edit: damnit this is a fast topic

    too much sheepage to argue here especially at digitpress.com

    bottom line I hate the controller.. I just don't like the 2 hand concept...
    I don't think it's so much the fact that you don't like it, it's that you're so anti-nintendo that you're finding reasons not to like it.

    Ok, this controller uses 2 hands to play! I don't like it! You're not very smart are you?

    God forbid Nintendo give us something unique, different and fun to play. Anyone that watches that video and still says it doesn't look at least a little bit fun is delusional.

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    Very impressive! You can usually count on Nintendo to bring something new and innovative to the masses! Where's the video at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaine23
    Very impressive! You can usually count on Nintendo to bring something new and innovative to the masses! Where's the video at?
    It was here, I swear it, and then I scoured the thread for it again to show a friend, spent 30 minutes looking for it, and I can't find it again for the life of me.

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    Default Revolution controller

    Call me a sheep

    Call me a blind follower

    But all I can say is Nintendo has shown us the future in terms of user interface. I can't wait to see what 1st party titles they come up with to support this!

    If you can't see the possibilities of this technology, then perhaps you are the blind one.***

    ***This post not directed at anybody in particular.

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    I kind of pulled a Kaine here and jumped to the end of the thread without reading some of it, so forgive me if I retread anything that's already been said. Here's my opinion on the controller, the Nintendo Revolution and the future of Nintendo itself.

    It's been said (by many of us on these forums, in fact) that there is not enough diversity among consoles, particularly the big three. In the early days, there were clearly drawn lines between consoles. NO one ever confused Atari's Football with Intellivision's back then. Even ported games like Pac-Man looked significantly different depending on the console -- again, no one in the history of mankind has ever confused the Atari 2600 and Intellivision versions. Even the consoles looked different back then. My "current gen" gaming shelf has four consoles on it.

    What systems are missing these days are personality. If you can get the exact same Billy Bob's Hunting Excursion on all three consoles, then where's the character? Where's the individuality? Where's or originality? And more importantly, why would you, as a consumer, prefer one over the other two?

    Nintendo is in a unique marketing position. They have proven with the Gamecube and the DS that they can release quirky games, less games, and niche games, and still maintain a portion of the market. Can they sell the amount of units that Microsoft or Sony can? Nope -- at least not these days. But it looks to me as though something else is going on.

    As we all know, marketing expensive add-ons is a kiss of death. Look at hard drives. One comes in the Xbox -- therefore, developers know across the board their programs can utilize it. We've seen Xbox games do neat things with it, the least of which are essentially unlimited room for saving games, downloading add-on levels, and importing your own music into games. And, as we know, homebrew hackers have found some interesting things to do with it as well.

    Now compare that to the PS2. Consumers were hesitant to buy an expensive add-on hard drive to play one or two games, which made developers hesitant to develop for it, which lead to a huge hardware flop which is now used by seven people for playing FF whatever and tens of thousands of kids for running HD Backup. Something definitely went wrong there.

    My point is, if Nintendo marketed this new controller as an add-on, no one would ever own one. People wouldn't develop for it, people wouldn't buy it, and that would be the end of that. However, by including it in the core package, that gives developers a fighting chance who want to develop for it. Not every DS game HAS to use the touch pad, but if developers decide to include it in their game, it's there.

    The only way to tell the difference between a gimmick and a revolutionary change is by waiting. I see this move as an attempt to break away from the pack and create some individuality once again. Maybe that change will be rewarded by consumers and maybe it won't. I think we can all agree that the best selling games (Madden?) aren't always the best games -- maybe Nintendo is using that in their marketing strategy.

    Other than that I'll just say it looks interesting, and leave it at that.

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    I give the Big N credit, they zigged when everyone else zagged. And that means it will be a boom or bust move. Or they have decided that they are happy being in 2nd or 3rd place. Actually if is a lot easier to figure out your market when you go for a specific group instead of the whole heard. A good example of this is me, After seeing the controller there is no way I will buy one on launch day. I will be a more wait and see consumer, I will decide between PS3 and 360 for my first system, and then see if Nintendo can convince me to buy their system over the loser of PS3 vs. 360. I will eventually get all 3, but its more of a race to be my second next gen console. If PS3 and 360 are clones of each other I can easily see myself picking up a rev over one of the other units. Just to play something different, but it will really be up to the games. First look I do not like the controllers, but now more than ever software will decide which second unit I buy.

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