I have 2 model 1s:
B21071859: 1601. No High Definition Graphics Text, No Ext. Port, Copyright Screen appears, The ports are on the right.
620127457: 1601. No Hi Definition Graphics Text, No Ext. Port, Copyright Screen Appears, The Ports are on the left.
Argh.. I think i have/Had budokan.. I don't know if i still do have it..
SorryOriginally Posted by anagrama
No text, no EXT port, and a License check
Possibility is infinity! You must be satisfied!
You just can't handle my jawusumness responces. -The Sizz
Mine is 020281699 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License checkHere's a summary of the data so far:
Genesis
39W28536 - 160? - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
39U92969 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
020039833 - 1601 - no text - EXT port - License check
020058252 - 160? - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License check
620127457 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
020260275 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License check
020409736 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
B21071859 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
A26300950 - 1601 - ?? text - no EXT port - License check(?) - some sound distortion
[u]Mega Drive PAL[/b]
110000266 - 1600-05 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
Hmm... so far no confirmed Genesis #1600's?
YoshiM & chrisbid - are your units model no. #1600 or #1601 ?
More data needed!
(And quite a pain to get all that info with 32X & model 1 Sega CD attached!)
New summary:
Genesis
39W28536 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
39U92969 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
020039833 - 1601 - no text - EXT port - License check
020058252 - 160? - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License check
620127457 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
020260275 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License check
020409736 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
B21071859 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
A26300950 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check - some sound distortion
020281699 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License check
B21071859 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License Check - The ports are on the right.
620127457 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License Check - The Ports are on the left.
[u]Mega Drive PAL[/b]
110000266 - 1600-05 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - No license check
Ok, this is interesting: I have 2 genesis model 1's, both have Hi Def text, and ext ports, both are model 1601.
Serial number B20332121--license screen
Serial number 39V24870-- NO license screen
DC--- It's STILL thinking....!!
It seems to me so far that the ones with serial #'s starting with a 3 are non-chipped, since none of them have had the license screen.
DC--- It's STILL thinking....!!
Couple more thanks to folks at Sega Dreams:
Genesis
020758625 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License check
PAL MD
420106614 - 1601-18 - no text - no EXT port - License check
Found the other Genesis 1 systems i had sitting around:
130019602 -1601 -no text -no EXT port - license check - ports on right -made in China
020850171 -1601 - no text - no EXT port - license check - ports on right -made in Taiwan
My sound distortion system had its ports on the left and it was made in Japan
Possibility is infinity! You must be satisfied!
You just can't handle my jawusumness responces. -The Sizz
Here's some more:
Genesis
020973516 - 1601 - no text - no EXT port - License Check
B10212057 - 1601 - "Hi Def" text - EXT port - License Check
Not just a "39" but the third character was also a letter and the serial numbers are only 8 characters long. Definitely seeing a pattern here, but we won't know for sure until we get some more entries.
Good job everyone!
Surely there are tons more Genesis owners on this site that can chime in and help the cause!!! I am now curious about this as well!!
DC--- It's STILL thinking....!!
Indeed, it'd be great to be able to tell them without hooking them up. I'd also like to know if anyone else has a a system like mine -- with the EXT port but no text on the top...
Hmmm...
There is some an easy, easy way to tell. Unfortunately, I don't remember what it is now. I know that it has worked for 50+ Geni 1 systems that the GOAT Store has had though flawlessly.
I'll see if I can figure it out soon and post back here.
Dan Loosen
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I figured it out.
It has nothing to do with serial numbers. Well, I guess it could have something to do with serial numbers, but I don't know what it is. The key that I have found is much simpler. Check the FCC ID in the sticker furthest to the left side of the console.
Does it say FJ8USASEGA? Then it is a TMSS version.
Does it say FJ846EUASEGA? Then it is a non-TMSS version.
If I'm incorrect, I have them backwards. Like I said in the post above, this has worked so far in identifying about the 10 non-TMSS consoles out of about 60-75 that we've had in stock. As of yet, it has never been wrong.
If anyone wants to confirm these for me, I'd appreciate it. We stupidly figured it out and then never wrote it down to actually remember what it was
Dan Loosen
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On mine the non-chipped one is indeed FJ846EUSASEGAI figured it out.
It has nothing to do with serial numbers. Well, I guess it could have something to do with serial numbers, but I don't know what it is. The key that I have found is much simpler. Check the FCC ID in the sticker furthest to the left side of the console.
Does it say FJ8USASEGA? Then it is a TMSS version.
Does it say FJ846EUASEGA? Then it is a non-TMSS version.
If I'm incorrect, I have them backwards. Like I said in the post above, this has worked so far in identifying about the 10 non-TMSS consoles out of about 60-75 that we've had in stock. As of yet, it has never been wrong.
If anyone wants to confirm these for me, I'd appreciate it. We stupidly figured it out and then never wrote it down to actually remember what it was
and the chipped one is FJ8USASEGA. You are correct as far as my two genny's go.........
DC--- It's STILL thinking....!!
Okay, then I think that I can say that so far, this has been right in about 62 cases out of 62, if we include your consolesOn mine the non-chipped one is indeed FJ846EUSASEGA
and the chipped one is FJ8USASEGA. You are correct as far as my two genny's go.........
I'm kind of tempted to take two of them apart and look at the guts carefully. I wonder how big of a change it truly was?
Dan Loosen
http://www.goatstore.com/ - http://www.midwestgamingclassic.com/
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I'll check when I go home for lunch and will post. Y'know, I never would have thought to check the FCC code.Okay, then I think that I can say that so far, this has been right in about 62 cases out of 62, if we include your consolesOn mine the non-chipped one is indeed FJ846EUSASEGA
and the chipped one is FJ8USASEGA. You are correct as far as my two genny's go.........
I'm kind of tempted to take two of them apart and look at the guts carefully. I wonder how big of a change it truly was?
I checked out my two systems and I concur, the non-TMSS system DOES have the FCC code of FJ846EUSASEGA. My others with the TMSS (one with the EXT port and the other without) has FJ8USASEGA.
I think goatdan's figured out the magic key. Hopefully chrisbid will look at this thread again to see what FCC code his system has but between mine, Evil E's and goatdan's non-TMSS systems I think we can consider this mystery solve-ed.
Thanks to goatdan for passing on this info and thanks to everyone else for taking the time and posting their system information. I'll make a change on the parent post to reflect the findings.
That's all well & good for all you Genesis folk, but we don't have FCC stickers over here!
I'd speculate that the 39xxxxxx serial number would also identify it, and that itwould be a similar case over here. Just need to find a bunch more PAL MD owners to figure it out now...
My best friend sold me his first-day-shipped Genesis a looooooong time ago. He then purchased and resold 3 other Genesises because he couldn't decide if he really wanted to keep it or not hehe.
I love mine tho, it's sexy!
I concur...my Non TMSS unit has the FJ846EUSASEGA next to the FCC.
However, looking at this, it appears as if the first Gennys were made to be region free as far as Europe and the States go? And this can be backed up with the fact that I have seen many Megadrive carts in the stores around here. They weren't for sale here originally of course..but they ended up here. Makes you wonder if those who owned them must have had original Model 1 Genesis systems?
I have another Genesis tucked away, that it is much better physical shape than my primary. But I don't know what the FCC code on that one is...
-runs to check...
Cool beans! both of my Genny 1 decks are the original run units! Now I will have to start checking in the future...but I would say this holds true..the FCC is the key!
Great work Dan! And...Oh..I need to send you an Email soon...
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To clarify once again - the license check discussed in this thread and the region check on some Genesis/Mega Drive carts are entirely seperate and should not be confused.
The license check only determines whether or not the early unlicensed EA & Ballistic/Accolade games will work. Later games with region-coding will still need convertors or a modded console to play on console from a different region.
Non region-locked Mega Drive games like those you mentioned will play equally well on any Genesis, not just the early ones.
not writing down numbers, but i checked both of my genny 1's.
one without license screen has that EUSASEGA ending
one with license screen has that USASEGA ending
also, the one without the license screen starts off with 39T4blahblah
Dan, you are a genius. *bows*
That's exactly what happened. The earlier Onslaught games will not work on the newer Genesis systems but the later ones will. I know this because:
Games that had their distribution ended before the new Genesis systems came out will only play on the old systems.
That's exactly what happened. The earlier Onslaught games will not work on the newer Genesis systems but the later ones will. I know this because:
Games that had their distribution ended before the new Genesis systems came out will only play on the old systems.
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