PS3 for $499 ?...........not a chance in hell

[Anthony1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard that the PS3 is going to have the "blue ray" dvd drive. No way the PS3 will be less than $500.


Sorry, I personally don't buy this line of thinking.


It's going to be very, very difficult for anybody to come out for more than $299.99.

$299.99 seems to be the magical price, the most you can get away with charging for a system at the beginning of it's lifecycle. I just can't imagine Sony or anybody else trying to sell a system for more than $299.99.

I guess, maybe somebody could sell one for $349.99, but just to get that extra $50, you come off looking like a very overpriced piece of technology.


Now, having said all of that, there isn't any way that a device with Blue Ray is going to come out for $299.99 in the year 2005. I can definitely agree with this. At least there is no way that it will be able to play Blue Ray DVD movies, out of the box for $299.99.

Not in the year 2005.


Hmmm, that seems to be quite a catch 22 situation doesn't it. Sony definitely wants to release their new system in the U.S. in late November 2005. Yet, they would piss off every electronics manufacturer in the world if it releases a blue ray movie player under any guise for $299.99. I'm thinking that the PS3 will indeed have a Blue Ray lazer, but that you have to buy some specialized remote or something to get access to it. Then they will charge an extra very large fee for that. Or maybe even not have that available intially.

Or maybe they have no intentions whatsoever to release a new system in 2005, and they are just toying with Microsoft and Nintendo, causing those two companies to possibly rush and compromise the launches of their own Next Generation hardware.

[max 330 mega]

i just hope that for such a high price we get some warm chocolate pudding capabilities to go along with it

[whoisKeel]

yeah...those 30+ ps3's for your gaming center are gonna hurt eh?

[Anthony1]

i just hope that for such a high price we get some warm chocolate pudding capabilities to go along with it

Actually, warm chocalate pudding is not something that I'm looking forward to with the PS3.

Sony should finally come correct this time, with a system that embraces high resolution, progressive scan based gaming. The PS2 was a very badly designed system, and it only has a small number of 480p games because of the way it was designed.

But the PS3 should have an option for 720P and 1080i for every single game made. It should be a required standard. Every game should offer both 720p and 1080i display, with a anamorphic 16:9 aspect ratio, as well.

Same thing with the next XBOX and the Nintendo Revolution.

These systems are coming out in 2005,2006 and they are going to be the dominating platforms till 2010 and 2011.

Therefore 1080i and 720P and 16:9 support should all be standard. And the audio standard should be DTS ES 6.1

[petewhitley]

A $499 PS3 launch is not going to happen. It's absurd, and Sony knows that.

[Ernster]

WTF is this warm chocolate pudding crap? Someone plz explain

[Anthony1]

yeah...those 30+ ps3's for your gaming center are gonna hurt eh?

Well, if it really is $500 for a PS3, then I can tell you that I won't have those in my gaming center anytime soon. If XBOX 2 is $299, then I would definitely pick a few up.

But the key with my gaming center is link play. So it's going to depend on what happens with the next round of systems in relation to link play.

[DigitalSpace]

WTF is this warm chocolate pudding crap? Someone plz explain

This thread should explain it.

[maxlords]

Sony will take a loss on units rather than sell them higher than $299 at launch. Just like any other company. It's an established price point and anything that sells above it tends to fail. They know that. They sold PS2s at lauch for a loss.

[qbertandernie]

Sony realized the price point needs to be lower than $500...

and work in RGB (apparently)

thanks for clearing up the puddin thing...i was wondering...what happened to 'ipodz' being 'puppy?

[hezeuschrist]

Sony will take a loss on units rather than sell them higher than $299 at launch. Just like any other company. It's an established price point and anything that sells above it tends to fail. They know that. They sold PS2s at lauch for a loss.

Exactly. And you would think by now that we would be beyond these discussions after the "PSP IS 110% GARANTEED $800 AT LAUNCH, IT'S GONNA BOMB" threads generated since E3.

Sony didn't get to where they are by being retarded.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

You'd think they would have learnt their lesson with the PSX they launched at a really high price...

[SoulBlazer]

But that was in Japan only, where a more central all in one unit like the PSX has a chance for greater success. If the PSX DOES get released in North America, they will lower the price -- either by taking a loss or cutting out features.

[Captain Wrong]

Sony will take a loss on units rather than sell them higher than $299 at launch. Just like any other company. It's an established price point and anything that sells above it tends to fail. They know that. They sold PS2s at lauch for a loss.

Exactly. And you would think by now that we would be beyond these discussions after the "PSP IS 110% GARANTEED $800 AT LAUNCH, IT'S GONNA BOMB" threads generated since E3.

Sony didn't get to where they are by being retarded.

Yeah, you would think that, wouldn't you. I guess being logical just isn't as popular as it used to be.

[maxlords]

You'd think they would have learnt their lesson with the PSX they launched at a really high price...

Wrong. That was a special case, as it's an all-in-one unit for a variety of higher end functions. It's marketed specifically to the rich and lazy, and will not be being released in the US market at all, only in Japan. They don't need to "learn a lesson", that's exactly what they wanted. A high priced toy, designed for the flush end-user.

[joshnickerson]

The thing is, how long can Sony afford to take such a hit on the cost of hardware. I KNOW Sony is taking a huge hit on the PSP's price, and if blue-ray players are going to cost $2,000 - $5,000 when the come out like I've been hearing, even if Sony sells the PS3 at $500, that is still a massive loss per unit to take.
I dunno, it's just my take on the situation. I'm probably forgetting that Sony is backed by a gigantic corporate empire or something.

[Oobgarm]

Game console manufacturers make a lot of their money back on actual game software sold, do they not?

If that's the case, selling a system at a loss is good strategy since it will get it into more homes, meaning more pieces of software sold.

[rhiohki]

I suppose I haven't heard the rumors about Blu-Ray technology in the PS3, but can anyone confirm it's going to have this technology

I can't fathom how they are going to do this seeing as how Blu-Ray hasn't hammered out al lthe standards and even hasn't had a full 1st-gen launch on PCs and will not for a while.

What about the media? blu-ray media won't be readily available or cost efficient until the technology has somewhat matured in the market.

[Flack]

I think you can launch anything at any price and people will buy it. You could launch the PS3 or Xbox 2 at a grand each and there would still be people standing in line for it. The real key is, what will the price be 3 months later.

[maxlords]

And there's no way the units will cost 2-5K to produce. That's just silly.

[le geek]

My predictions...

1) The PS3 will launch in 2006. For no more than $349, but probably $299.

2)Hi Def DVDs don't have a standard yet. You may or may not play Hi Def DVDs in the next gen players...

[Sylentwulf]

I'm SURE That sony will release 2-3 bundles for the PS3 as they did with the PSP.

Yes, there just may be a $500 version that burns DVD's at 16X functions as a tivo, comes with a hard drive.......wait.....doesn't this sound familiar?

And then there will be the $300 launch price version, which is a game console......wait.....this sounds familiar too.


Is there any way to bloack a user on these boards?

[Kamino]

Sony will take a loss on units rather than sell them higher than $299 at launch. Just like any other company. It's an established price point and anything that sells above it tends to fail. They know that. They sold PS2s at lauch for a loss.

Exactly.
If the morons at Sega hadn't put a $400 price point on the Saturn, there would've been a fair fight in the 32 bit wars; i'll wager to say sega would've had at the least a better chance to fight, and would most likely still be making systems.

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[Sylentwulf]

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Yeah, but it's SO HARD sometimes

[Anexanhume]

I don't think there's be one console that has had a successful life and was over 300 dollars at launch.