What is the best-selling classic console?

[Gamevet]

Lots of games are packin games at some point in a system's life, we can't rule every one of them out just because of that. DKC sold very well because it was an outstanding game and a technical achievement, not because it was a packin.

That's understood, but to compare its overall sales numbers to a game that wasn't a packin, isn't really a direct comparison. If DKC was included with every SNES sold after November of 1994, it's obviously going to sell 3 times better than a great selling 3rd party title. How many other SNES or Genesis games, that weren't included with the systems, managed to sell over 1.5 million units in North America? According to The-Magicbox Mortal Kombat 2 sold over 1.5 million units in 1995, when they started keeping track of the sales numbers.

Yeah, DKC kicked the door open for the SNES in overall sales in North America, but the stellar lineup of titles that year shouldn't be overlooked.

[j_factor]

I had no idea N-Gage outsold 3DO and Colecovision.

[A Black Falcon]

I had no idea N-Gage outsold 3DO and Colecovision.

Every gaming generation has had higher overall sales than the one before it, so it shouldn't be TOO surprising when a newer system does better than an older one. But really, it did? None of those were successful systems ultimately, of course.

[tom]

Wikipedia has an article entitled "List of Best Selling Consoles."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

It doesn't paste very well, but here's the current ranking:

Video game consoles (including handhelds)

Manufacturer Platform Released Units Sold
Sony PlayStation 2 2000 154.4 million[1]
Nintendo Nintendo DS 2004 151.06 million[2]
Nintendo Game Boy and Game Boy Color[3] 1989 and 1998 118.69 million[2]
Sony PlayStation 1994 102.49 million (shipped)[4]
Nintendo Wii 2006 94.97 million[2]
Nintendo Game Boy Advance 2001 81.51 million[2]
Sony PlayStation Portable 2004 75.4 million[5][6][7]
Microsoft Xbox 360 2005 67.2 million[8]
Sony PlayStation 3 2006 62 million[9]
Nintendo Nintendo Entertainment System 1983 61.91 million[2]
Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.10 million[2][10][11]
Sega Mega Drive / Genesis 1988 39 million[cn 1]
Nintendo Nintendo 64 1996 32.93 million[2]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 30 million[15]
Microsoft Xbox 2001 24 million[16][17]
Nintendo Nintendo GameCube 2001 21.74 million[2]
Nintendo Nintendo 3DS 2011 15.03 million[2]
Sega SG-1000/Master System 1985 10–13 million[18][19]
Sega Game Gear 1990 11 million[20]
Sega Dreamcast 1998 10.6 million[21][22]
NEC TurboGrafx-16 1987 10 million[22]
Sega Saturn 1994 9.5 million[22]
Sega Sega CD 1991 6 million[22]
Nintendo Famicom Disk System 1986 4.5 million[23]
Atari Atari 7800 1986 3.77 million[24]
Nintendo Color TV Game 1977 3 million[25]
Mattel Intellivision 1980 3 million[26][27][28]
Coleco Mini-Arcade 1982 3 million[29]
Nokia N-Gage 2003 3 million[20]
Magnavox/Philips Magnavox Odyssey² 1978 2 million[30]
Coleco ColecoVision 1982 2 million[31]
Panasonic 3DO Interactive Multiplayer 1993 2 million[22]
SNK Neo Geo Pocket/Neo Geo Pocket Color 1998 and 1999 2 million[20]
NEC TurboExpress 1990 1.5 million[20]
Sony PlayStation Vita 2011 1.2 million[32]
Coleco Telstar 1976 1 million[33]
Sega Nomad 1995 1 million[34]

Yeah that's Wikipedia for you, again, fabricated from fabricated source information. As I said before I am a sex god on the internet, so would you believe me?

Look on Wikipedia best selling musicians: ( (claimed figure(s) supported by at least 15% in certified units) 15% is not very much)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_musicians

It even mentiones, artists like Nana Mouskouri and Deep Purple cannot be included, I don't think Nana Mouskouri ever sold 300 million records, but that's record companies, fans and the press for you....

Same goes for consoles.




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[A Black Falcon]

Yeah that's Wikipedia for you, again, fabricated from fabricated source information. As I said before I am a sex god on the internet, so would you believe me?

Look on Wikipedia best selling musicians: ( (claimed figure(s) supported by at least 15% in certified units) 15% is not very much)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_musicians

It even mentiones, artists like Nana Mouskouri and Deep Purple cannot be included, I don't think Nana Mouskouri ever sold 300 million records, but that's record companies, fans and the press for you....

Same goes for consoles.




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So you missed the fact that every one of those is sourced? I'm sure that some of those are wrong, sure, but many are right. To prove which is which you'd have to go through every one of those sources, and figure out which numbers are accurate and which aren't.

Otherwise, you're just saying things that aren't true without backing them up with any facts. You can't ignore the whole list just because some of those numbers are surely inaccurate, when most are right.

[tom]

Other way around, some might be accurate, most are not

[tom]

But prove yes as I already mentioned, the book Game Over states Nintendo and Sega exaggerated their sales figures, man do I have to tell you guys everything 1000 times????

[Rob2600]

But prove yes as I already mentioned, the book Game Over states Nintendo and Sega exaggerated their sales figures, man do I have to tell you guys everything 1000 times????

What are author David Sheff's sources? Also, what part of the book mentions that? Could you quote it please? I'm just curious, thanks.

[tom]

Yes, it's an excellent book about Nintendo's monopolistic practices to keep the prizes high, lying in court and wotnot. Gotta read it yourself, I'm not in the mood to re-read the book at the moment.

[TheChristoph]

Bickering aside, this thread's been a great read.

It makes me wish for an alternate videogame history where Sega didn't give up on the Genesis early, and we had another generation of Nintendo vs Sega 2D competition.