Do YOU speak Japanese?

[Retrocade Fantasia]

Hajimemashite Digit press

O-tearai wa doko ni arimasu ka?

[ice1605]

Yeah, right now, I am finishing my 3rd year of Japanese at the university level. I am an electrical engineering and Japanese double major. Starting this summer, I am studying abroad at the University of Tsukuba for a year. I hope that spending a year over there will help me improve my Japanese.
日本語を話せることも読むことも書くことも全部好きなんですけど、まだまだ上手じゃありません 。

[FoxNtd]

日本語を話せる

可能形使ったら「を」助詞が使えません。このボイスには、その助詞が「が」になります。日本語の学習者は、 この間違いが通常だと思います。

便利な説明を読むには、下記のサイトをご覧ください。

http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/25boisu.html#25.4

25.4.1 可能形の形についてという部分。

頑張ってください。

[ice1605]

可能形使ったら「を」助詞が使えません。このボイスには、その助詞が「が」になります。日本語の学習者は、 この間違いが通常だと思います。

便利な説明を読むには、下記のサイトをご覧ください。

http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/25boisu.html#25.4

25.4.1 可能形の形についてという部分。

頑張ってください。

あ、そうですね。「が」と書いた方がいいですね。ありがとうございます。まだ間違いをしますからもっと勉強 します。

[Manhattan Sports Club]

I can speak japanese moderately enough. But my main interest is in japanese music and literature (classic novels and manga). I imported alot of text-driven games with intention to play them in the original tongue and indeed I do dabble in some RPGs and Visual Novels but am actually enjoying the learning experience much more than the games in general. It makes it more fun for me to learn something while I play. But I prefer to import stuff like books and music instead.

[TRM]

I don't speak Japanese (though whether I could speak it would have no relation to whether I could read it...) and I do not read it either. Although the idea of playing Famicom games in their original language is exciting, I just do not think that I have enough inspiration to learn to read this language, and this is coming from a guy who speaks English and German, and also a conversational rate of Afrikaans (and used to know some Dutch until he forgot it...could probably fake it though). I also took 2 years of Spanish at the uni and am working on learning Chinese now...

On another note, Rosetta Stone is garbage. The only reason that program sells as many copies as it does is due to the promotion. I have tinkered with many languages to various levels, and have found RS to be worthless. Many other seasoned language students will tell you the same thing, if you do your research Also, for those of you who remember your English (or whatever your native language is) grammar, consider self-study. Classes move REALLY slow, and I talk from both being an ESL teacher (well technically EFL but that is a different story) and as having been a student in many language classes. A good textbook and a private tutor once a week (to help with pronunciation and potential grammar questions) will take you further, faster, than generic classes.

[Bardoly]

I speak Mandarin Chinese and read a little, and many of the Japanese characters come right from the Chinese, so sometimes I have half a clue what the Japanese is as long as it's written legibly.

[Zama]

I actually took a course in Japanese in college and I was pretty much confused by the end of the semester I think I rather stick with improving English instead (I speak, read, and write in three other languages though) <3

[Yamazaki]

Hi guys.

I studied Japanese for 8 years and lots of people say that I am fluent. But my vocabulary and kanji knowledge is definitely crumbling since I dont use it too often here in Germany.

[vivek88]

no i can't speak japnese

[slapdash]

@vivek88: the next time someone asks, respond "Nihongo ga dekimasen" instead.

[Lady Jaye]

I've been wanting to take Japanese lessons for a long time, but can't find the time to do so. I'm still hoping that I'll be able to take some basic lessons in September at a local manga lounge (classes are being taught by a very competent teacher), but I'm not sure if I'll be able to. We'll see.

[goatse]

haha pretty funny that no one speaks japanese on the import games forum.

fluent btw.

[The 1 2 P]

I've been wanting to take Japanese lessons for a long time, but can't find the time to do so. I'm still hoping that I'll be able to take some basic lessons in September at a local manga lounge (classes are being taught by a very competent teacher), but I'm not sure if I'll be able to. We'll see.

I thought you did translations for Japanese to English, or is that for French? I remember you saying you were a translator in another thread, unless I'm confusing you for someone else.

[FoxNtd]

haha pretty funny that no one speaks japanese on the import games forum

このスレをよく読まなかったと思う・・・

[Eyedunno]

可能形使ったら「を」助詞が使えません。このボイスには、その助詞が「が」になります。日本語の学習者は、 この間違いが通常だと思います。

便利な説明を読むには、下記のサイトをご覧ください。

http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/25boisu.html#25.4

25.4.1 可能形の形についてという部分。

頑張ってください。

Funny thing is, the very page you posted makes it clear that either を or が is acceptable (aside from with できる), albeit with some difference in nuance.

ただ、このガ／ヲの交替は、「できる」の場合とは違って、義務的なもので
はありません。特に、スル動詞の場合や、否定の場合、「Ｎが」と動詞の間が
離れている場合は「Ｎを」のままでもかまいません。

練習メニューを何とか消化できた。
　　　　　大きな声で夢を語れなくなった。
　　　　　こんな難しい本を辞書なしですらすら読めるなんてすごい。

[Breetai]

Speak? Yeah, sure, I coulc get by just fine last time I checked.
Listen? Yeah, but speaking is easier.
Read? Eh, not really. Just stuff you'd use in daily life. I'm too lazy to actually study, so I don't know too much kanji.

I don't know anything about any study programs. I never studied it. I just lived there for a bunch of years and got used to it. My Japanese is pretty crude I think.

haha pretty funny that no one speaks japanese on the import games forum.

fluent btw.

Pretty funny how you aren't fluent enough in reading web-forums to have bothered actually reading the posts in the two pages of this thread. Not to mention that a lot of people here who know Japanese of various levels won't even bother to post in this thread.

Burn!

[Aussie2B]

It's not like it matters anyway. It's not like there's some import gaming police who requires people to learn Japanese before they're allowed to enjoy games released in Japan. There are also plenty of gamers who stick only with import games that are more action-based and have very little text in them, so it's no surprise to me that a lot of people in this forum enjoy imports without knowing Japanese.

Also, I think it helps to realize that as English speakers and/or Japanese speakers, we're in a fortunate and unusual position. Those are the dominant languages for games, so it's easy to take for granted having most games in your mother tongue. Most of the world has to either learn one of those fluently or adapt to playing games in a language that they don't understand well or at all. Like in Europe, if a game is released in multiple languages, it's usually, what, 4 or 5 languages? If you're from one of the less powerful/populated European countries, you have to get by on whatever you may have learned as a second language. It's not uncommon at all for people to play games in English even though their English is pretty weak or nonexistent, so why is it strange for people to play games in Japanese without being totally fluent?

[FoxNtd]

Funny thing is, the very page you posted makes it clear that either を or が is acceptable (aside from with できる), albeit with some difference in nuance.

ハハ。「を」は、動詞の可能形と一緒に使われてることたまに見た。

できるという動詞は別の意味を表せるからこの動詞は特別の場合ですね・・というわけで「を」と「できる」と 一緒に言ったら別の意味を伝えると思う

[InsertCleverName]

My school offers a vitual language course which is basically Rosetta Stone. I just started Japanese this month, and it's pretty fun so far. I'm aware that Rosetta Stone doesn't teach you everything but its a nice platform for beginners.

[The 1 2 P]

I was actually thinking of trying out one of the cheaper alternatives to Rosetta Stone. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

[Bubble_Man]

Sukoshi (a little). I studied it for a while back in my late teens and had a Japanese penpal whom I exchanged emails with on a daily basis (a few sentences in Japanese and a few in English). That was about 10 years ago, so I've forgotten quite a bit due to a loss of interest. I'd have to do some reviewing just to read hiragana again.