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    i ordered a kit of ebay and hope for it next week sometime

    i was watching a video on youtube about the penny trick. so i was thinking of doing that trick with the xclamp fix
    would that be a good idea?
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    I would avoid the penny thing. I've seen videos and they don't seem neither professional or reliable.
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    i wouldnt mess with the xclamp fix. i would find someone on craigslist that does reflowing. i picked up a cheap 360 that had video problems and had it reflowed, its been working almost a year with no problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saferkefka View Post
    i wouldnt mess with the xclamp fix. i would find someone on craigslist that does reflowing. i picked up a cheap 360 that had video problems and had it reflowed, its been working almost a year with no problems at all.
    I hate to tell you but if you open it up to your obvious surprise it will have the xclamp mod done to it. Reflow is just a fancy way of saying that they did the xclamp fix and let the system run till it overheats to remelt the solder so that it is positioned in the rite place on the chips and board. So just letting you know before you contradict yourself again

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    And also the penny trick is not such a good idea. Plus that trick would only be relevant if your xboxes error code is suggesting problems with the ram chips. The penny trick normally damages your systems ram chips in the long run by flattening them so much against the board that they fry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanMurf View Post
    I hate to tell you but if you open it up to your obvious surprise it will have the xclamp mod done to it. Reflow is just a fancy way of saying that they did the xclamp fix and let the system run till it overheats to remelt the solder so that it is positioned in the rite place on the chips and board. So just letting you know before you contradict yourself again
    There are people that do that, sure, but there are also people that do actual reflows with the proper hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borman View Post
    There are people that do that, sure, but there are also people that do actual reflows with the proper hardware.
    Okay...here we go..... didnt really want to have to explain. but okay. If you Professionally reflowed the shitty solder that is a xbox 360 board the problem would reoccur again. To fix it to make it last a year you would have to not only reflow but reball every pin on the processors with better quality heat resistant solder. chances are that no one would go through that trouble to make a xbox 360 work again. Im interested now to see what was done.

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    Pretty easy fix and it worked great for me. Good luck to you, there are youtube videos galore to help you out. The first time I did it, I did not allow it to overheat and then cool, just the x-clamp and then closed it up and it did not work. After I went back and did that it worked just fine, so I recommend doing that step for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanMurf View Post
    contradict yourself again

    i watched him do it, so yeah. get your machine reflowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saferkefka View Post
    i watched him do it, so yeah. get your machine reflowed.
    Can you explain how it was done in lemans terms if you dont know exactly because im amazed that a reflow of the original solder has lasted this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanMurf View Post
    Can you explain how it was done in lemans terms if you dont know exactly because im amazed that a reflow of the original solder has lasted this long.
    They put the console in an oven and bake it like a cake.

    Why would you think xclamp fixing some solder reflowing are the same thing?
    Reflow isn't a "fancy" way of saying xclamp fix. It's a whole different process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saferkefka View Post
    i wouldnt mess with the xclamp fix. i would find someone on craigslist that does reflowing. i picked up a cheap 360 that had video problems and had it reflowed, its been working almost a year with no problems at all.
    the penny trick works for a good bit of time, eventually the clamp would give way but nothing a little bending would not help.

    I doubt there are many people on craigslist that can do a solder reflow. i would venture to guess it not more then a hairdryer job.


    by the way i removed reballed the xbox chips when the problems first occurred years back, you can look under xboxscene under same name for more info. you only put the board in the oven to get the temp up equally so you dont warp it but you need a special ($$$) machine to remove reinstall the chip ( i used one by called sniper) and you need another one to re-ball.

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    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
    Probably just another refurbished console, not the same one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    Probably just another refurbished console, not the same one.
    i think he was asking how they get refurbished. i assume that they collect the rrod boxes and send back to the manufacture for rework. dont think msft does that type of stuff in house

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
    It depends on what chipset you've got and what problem you had with your 360 initially. Depending on the issues (and if you've got a special box like a Halo 3/Resident Evil unit) they'll likely fix your actual unit. Generic Older Xenon units got a new heat sync and get sent back out. Ones with dead drives are given 'new' refurbs and are sent back out as well. I'm not sure what needs to be done with the 374 errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu View Post
    It depends on what chipset you've got and what problem you had with your 360 initially. Depending on the issues (and if you've got a special box like a Halo 3/Resident Evil unit) they'll likely fix your actual unit. Generic Older Xenon units got a new heat sync and get sent back out. Ones with dead drives are given 'new' refurbs and are sent back out as well. I'm not sure what needs to be done with the 374 errors.
    the only reason im asking is cuz i opened mine and saw 3 heatsinks. all the pics i seen online only had 2 heatsinks. all the videos/tutorial on how to fix a 360 where using a console with 2 sinks. so does that make it harder to fix myself?
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