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    Default Boy Kills Mom and Wounds Dad Over Halo 3 Forbidding

    Another shooting, another video game linking. But this time it hits much closer to home because it isn't a direct result of playing a violent video game. Instead, it's a direct result of not being able to play a violent video game: http://www.cleveland.com/news/index....ot_dad_ov.html

    Everytime I read these kind of stories I continue to wonder the same thing: what the fuck is wrong with these kids these days?

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    There's definitely more at work here than some crazy teenager or violent video games. It sounds like he was somewhat repressed growing up (seriously, his parents wouldn't allow a 17-year-old to play an M-rated game?). I'm not playing blame the victim here, but my first thought after reading the article is that the kid probably snapped and said to himself "you know what, fuck it, I've had enough". People that shelter their children so heavily are asking for rebellion, often in a far more extreme fashion than what might have manifested otherwise.

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    Reading about stupidity such as this makes me think that the Earth should just blow itself up and start all over again. Christ...
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    I never want to have kids. Ever. Let a damn game get so important you blow your parents heads off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Japanese View Post
    There's definitely more at work here than some crazy teenager or violent video games. It sounds like he was somewhat repressed growing up (seriously, his parents wouldn't allow a 17-year-old to play an M-rated game?). I'm not playing blame the victim here, but my first thought after reading the article is that the kid probably snapped and said to himself "you know what, fuck it, I've had enough". People that shelter their children so heavily are asking for rebellion, often in a far more extreme fashion than what might have manifested otherwise.

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    I'm kind of wondering why a minister would have a gun.

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    I will somewhat agree with the poor decision making for the simple fact that he locked it in with a gun, when obviously the kid could find the key when he wanted to. He opens it to get the game, and finds a gun too, i guess coupled with the other stressors mentioned in the article and the obvious poor judgment that goes with wanting to play halo, he thought it would be a good idea to give himself extra insurance he could play...or something.

    Ok basically i wanted to make a halo slam. (seriously kid, get timesplitters or something instead). Also if you read the older article it links to, it mentions that his dad and him shot guns together recreationally, so no wonder he could find the key.
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    He killed his parent for more than just not being allowed to play Halo. There is probably a whole backstory we do not know.

    coupled with the other stressors mentioned in the article and the obvious poor judgment that goes with wanting to play halo
    Made me laugh .

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    Quote Originally Posted by motley6 View Post
    Are you kidding?
    Yeah he's kidding. You don't really think he believes that severely sheltered children can become ticking time bombs and behave in completely illogical ways?

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    He really does look like a douche bag, doesn't he?

    Come on, death penalty! Or prison rape!

    I'm sorry for being vulgar, but he deserves a painful punishment for what he did to his family...all OVER A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    I'm sorry for being vulgar, but he deserves a painful punishment for what he did to his family...all OVER FUCKING SNOWBOARDING AND A STAPH INFECTION.
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    Actually near the end of the article his dad says it was probably due to a snow boarding accident and a staph infection.

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    You know, this stuff didn't happen back in the day when it was acceptable to smack your kids around.

    I am not talking about beating the crap out of them with a baseball bat, I am talking get your belt off when they talk back and give them a good walloping.

    Kids need to respect their parents, and have just a slight amount of fear about them. No fear = no worries when you have a gun (that is sarcastic).

    But seriously, we need to go back to the day of spankings and belt whoopings. Put these punk kids in their place.

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    Well now hes definitly not going to be able to play it.

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    Judging by the amount of jackasses I come across while playing Halo online with friends (mostly shouting teenagers that start 'face-****ing' you when they killed you) I'm not really surprised by anything anymore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaAges View Post
    You know, this stuff didn't happen back in the day when it was acceptable to smack your kids around.

    I am not talking about beating the crap out of them with a baseball bat, I am talking get your belt off when they talk back and give them a good walloping.
    Have to agree.

    Kids need to respect their parents, and have just a slight amount of fear about them. No fear = no worries when you have a gun (that is sarcastic).
    You know, I just realized something. How come a MINISTER has a GUN in his house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by super nes View Post
    Well now hes definitly not going to be able to play it.

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    His father forbade the games, saying that were too violent and sexually explicit.
    I don't recall there being any sexual content in Halo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaAges View Post
    You know, this stuff didn't happen back in the day when it was acceptable to smack your kids around.

    I am not talking about beating the crap out of them with a baseball bat, I am talking get your belt off when they talk back and give them a good walloping.

    Kids need to respect their parents, and have just a slight amount of fear about them. No fear = no worries when you have a gun (that is sarcastic).

    But seriously, we need to go back to the day of spankings and belt whoopings. Put these punk kids in their place.
    QFT. But it also seems like there is more to the story that we aren't hearing.
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    Not like any of this is funny, but I just found it kind of comical he tried to flee the house with halo 3 game in hand. Like, he just shot his parents, and the only thing on his mind is a little team slayer. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    He killed his parent for more than just not being allowed to play Halo. There is probably a whole backstory we do not know.
    agreed. My main job is a counselor by day. I can tell from my personal experience working with families you there is ALOT that we dont know about this case. In my opinion, the whole video game tie in here is not a vaild one, it could be the straw that broke the camels back.

    Again, just my opinion but I think of the following when I hear of this tragedy. My heart goes out to the father and his family. What a horrible thing to deal with and a nightmare to think of as a new parent.

    There is probably some major communication issues with the family. Obviously this is an example of an environment in which a the teenager possibly had majorly repressed emotions or had some major issues with the parents. Who knows what else was going on behind closed doors that you dont read about. This was probably not caused by one incident, or a sledding accident. This, in my opinion, was caused by an accumulation of events over a long time.

    The teenager may have an undiagnosed mental health disorder. It would be interesting to see his behavior at school, previous run ins with the law, other behaviors of concern.

    Not saying it for sure in this case(I am a christian myself), but SOME people of faith sometimes avoid mental heath in general or only use it as a last resort. Some sects of certain faiths are sometimes even told not to go to mental health centers and to only rely on the church or God to fix everything. This can be a slippery slope for some, and can lead to undiagnosed mental health issues going unattended for a long period of time.

    There could have been some other warning flags that were not noticed, or not taken seriously.

    I can tell you how many families that I work with in which a red flag goes off with a behavior, and the family does not want to face it seriously/and or at least have someone get an mental health evaluation. While I understand that dealing with a possible mental health issue is hard for many(epically parents), a mental heath issue gone unattended/undiagnosed is much much worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98PaceCar View Post
    QFT. But it also seems like there is more to the story that we aren't hearing.
    I doubt there is more to the story.

    It seems dumb that a kid would flip out over a game, right?

    Like the kid who ran away because he couldn't play CoD. This stuff is starting to happen more and more, and it is getting worse.

    I think a portion of it is that kids are put in time out in their room with their games instead of making them go out and select the switch you are going to hit them with. if they pick a small switch, they get hit until they go out and get a bigger one.

    My parents gave me some good wallopings, and I really was a good kid. Yes, I had issues later on down the road, but that was when I was an adult and out on my own (my problems happened during college when I was out on my own trying to pay for college while I was there).

    These 14, 15, 16 year olds need to be taught their place. These kids think they can say and do whatever they want, and if the parents just discipline them with words, then they will only get worse as they grow up.

    I have seen a 16 year old kick a hole through a door, break a kitchen table by breaking the legs on the table, breaking every single chair except for one for that table, multiple holes in the walls, multiple other random items broken, just because he wanted to go to Burger King. I am not kidding either.

    What these kids are doing is having temper tantrums. Some will kill you, but you need to stop them from even getting to that point. If you kid has violent tendancies, maybe you should figure out why and either put them in the looney bin early, or get them some help that is NOT XANAX or whatever that pill is.

    Parents can always control their kids, but if the parent does not start controlling their kid early, well, then they might do something dumb like completely destroy the dining room over burger king (literally the entire dining room), or kill you because you tried to take away their Halo.

    Sure, the kid is a piece of &@$# that deserves to rot in jail. I will never take the blame away from that kid, as I have also seen people (who are good friends of mine) that did not have the best upbringing, but somehow managed to turn out very well.

    You can't go around shooting people for something stupid. This is why I can't stand guns. This reminds me of an awesome line from the movie 5th Element, "What you create, you use to destroy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98PaceCar View Post
    QFT. But it also seems like there is more to the story that we aren't hearing.
    Like maybe, the kid was a complete and total idiotic fuck-up before/without games being involved? Just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post


    He really does look like a douche bag, doesn't he?

    Come on, death penalty! Or prison rape!

    I'm sorry for being vulgar, but he deserves a painful punishment for what he did to his family...all OVER A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
    He looks like he'd become a peedo at the age of 40. There's something about those beady little eyes that screams "here kiddies, I want to show you something"

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