I'm getting really tired of waiting for PS3 backwards compatibility. And the 60 gig system costs more than it would cost to buy a 80 gig system and a spare ps2. Anyone heard any updates on this? I would realy like to unhook my ps2.
Any Plans by Playstation for Backwards Compatibility?
I'm getting really tired of waiting for PS3 backwards compatibility. And the 60 gig system costs more than it would cost to buy a 80 gig system and a spare ps2. Anyone heard any updates on this? I would realy like to unhook my ps2.
Doubtful, sony is still being taken to the cleaners on the manufacture of the PS3. Both the Wii and the 360 at a much lower starting price, the last thing sony can afford to do is take further losses or raise the price.
Wouldn't surprise me if they were working their way towards selling PS2 games on the PSN.
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Can somebody break this down for me? I bought an 80 Gig with Metal Gear Solid 4 in August, and I just spent the last hour playing Final Fantasy VII on it. I knew some of them don't have backwards compatibility, but which ones? Mine does it sort-of just fine (many PS1 games have graphic glitches; some (like Atari Anniversary Edition Redux) are actually rendered unplayable.)
All models of PS3 are compatible with Playstation games, as they are done via a simple software emulator.
Here's the breakdown for PS2 games:
60GB - full BC
20GB - full BC
80GB - partial (~80%) BC
40GB - no BC
80GB (newer units) - no BC
160GB - no BC
It doesn't actually have anything to do with the hard drive itself, this is just how Sony sold them. All units can have their hard drives swapped out. The 80GB units with BC were all sold in bundles, either with Motorstorm or MGS4. Newer ones, which don't come with a game, lack BC. You can tell the difference by the number of USB ports; BC models have 4, the newer models have 2. You can still buy the MGS4 bundle at a few places, but it's just remaining stock.
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I thought the 60 gig model was the only one with full backwards compability? The 20 gig model has it too? I thought it was emulated with partial compability. I should just buy a 20 gig and switch the 40gb hard drive out of my system.
I used to have a 60 gig system and I found games that were glitchy, a couple that didn't work, that I couldn't adjust the screen size on my TV, and that the "virtual memory card" system was a headache. I ended up getting a PS2 again, trading the 60 gig, and eventually buying a new model (the newer 80 gig) strictly for PS3 games.
ALL PS3 units have PS1 backwards compatibility.
They always have, and always will have that feature considering they SELL PS1 games in the PSN Store.
PS2 backwards compatibility on the other hand is gone on all current new retail skus.
The official explanation for this is a cost saving measure as the single biggest complaint by consumers since the launch of the unit was the cost.
I assume that Sony will return the feature when they retire the PS2 from hardware production. Unfortunately PS2s still sell assloads ... so we probably won't see that in the near future ...
... however BC has been there right up until the MGS 4 unit ... so I don't really understand what you were "waiting" for, it's been available in one form or another at retail right up until the newest set of skus.
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It'd be cool if they could do PS2 downloads. Really though I just want to play yakuza 2 and a couple of import shmups so I need a modded ps2. I don't mind needing another piece of hardware.
Wow. Someone finally agrees with me on this subject. The lure of $$$ is just too great for Sony to ignore.
In a nutshell, this is what I've been saying (predicting) for the past year:
PS2 games WILL be able to be downloaded off of PSN and they are currently working on a PS2 emulator that will facilitate this. This new feature will become available (completely out of the blue) during one of the frequent PS3 system updates in 2009.
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Sony should have made PS2 compatibility optional from the very beginning. They could have released a single SKU with only PSone backwards compatibility.
You want to play PS2 games on your PlayStation3? Then buy this small add-on that looks like a PCMCIA card and plugs into the base of the PS3, which basically contains the integrated EE & GS, and you'll have 99% backwards compatibility. It could have meant that the PS3 could have been slightly cheaper at release and would have certainly removed this whole confusion over which machines play what.
I think you're correct. But I'm hoping they'll get rid of any stupid bloody region restrictions and games like Guilty Gear Accent Core and Fist of the North Star will see UK PSN releases.
If Sony is planning on adding PS2 games to PSN, wouldn't it have been easier to leave PS2 backwards compatibility in the machine?
Easier sure, but also less lucrative. People will double-dip to play their favorite games without having to put in a disc or hook up another console. Add in the possibility of added features or upgrades (16:9 support, online play, higher resolution, etc) and you have a recipe for what is essentially free money.
Look at Microsoft. You can buy Xbox games on the 360, so Sony shouldn't be far behind with PS2 games on the PS3.
Might be a dumb question, but do you mean that there is no PS2 BC at all, or that it's done via emulator. Because that would suck if it was gone entirely. I've been waiting to get a ps3 and I never thought that they'd take features away (which I guess I should know better since they did take hardware BC out of them).
It's gone, period. They even say it on every new box that the system will not play any Playstation 2 games at all. Yet another reason why I won't buy a PS3 yet. When they can finally decide on what features are/are not on the console, I'll consider buying one.
On the outside, yes, it looks like Sony took it away as a cost-saving measure to make the PS3 more affordable to the consumer. They will re-sell these games as downloads, a la the 360, it's not a matter of if but when.
20 and 60 are the same in terms of BC. The only partial one is the 80. The 20GB model has other differences from the 60GB -- 2 USB ports instead of 4, no built-in wi-fi, and no memory card readers.
It had a lot of issues at first, but over time, the issues were fixed with system updates.
I got a 160GB unit a while back, but here in Europe, all consoles are sold without BC anyway. I still hope they'll produce a PS2 emulator someday, shouldn't be *that* hard, considering how far PS2 emulation is on PC already (well, for 2D games at least.)
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And for anybody confused/frustrated by the multi-sku nature of the PS3 at retail, please keep in mind that Sony didn't create the multi-sku, multi-tiered, multi-priced game console.
That's been around in the retail marketplace since the Atari 2600, has happened across nearly all platforms since and is currently the business model that MS employs with the 360.
The Wii is the only single-sku console on the market ... so Sony's not really treading any new ground here, they're just trying to figure out what sells the best and what their consumers respond to. (answer = price drops at any cost hardware-wise)
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Sticking in a Blu Ray player and doubling the price killed it for me.
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I doubt we will see PS2 backwards compatibility again on the PS3. I think someone nailed it when they suggested Sony would like to double-dip...also would cut into the sale of used games...Microsoft has not updated their compatibility list in 13 months now...
In short, keep a PS2 handy...or get one of those MGS4 systems while you can. I wonder if they will go so far as to disable backwards compatibility in a future firmware update?
Rumors been flying for a couple of days that Sony was all set to offer limited PS2 support in a recent PS3 update, but pulled it at the last minute. I suspect we'll see something someday along the lines of what MS has done for backwards compatibility.
You would think that they would sell a premium version of the system like the xbox does with the elite, and include the 60gb features, and just charge more for the system. I also think the reason they don't do this is that they plan to release ps2 games on the system.
What is so special about this Metal Gear system you are all talking about?
The MGS4 system has partial BC (like the Motorstorm system before it). Newer 80GB systems don't. The MGS4 system was the most recent PS3 with any BC, and if you're lucky you can still find leftover stock at some stores currently. I think Amazon still has them too.
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