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    Thanks for the heads up about his revver account, I'll certainly encourage him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    By the way, those videos might as well not exist, now that I'm actually in school, so consider their existence to be a bonus.
    I think everyone here would be happier if they didn't exist. Bonus? lol

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    Well an example of video game stuff I like to watch is not speedruns, but stuff where somebody busts their @$$ to do one thing in a game.

    There are a bunch of videos from chilastra (the star wars server i play on) where I frapped a bunch of stuff that people did in space.

    Basically, I want to watch a video that captures what it is like to play a game. It doesn't need to be from start to finish, but just a good moment in the game, and honestly, those videos are not easy to find.

    It is all either people doing stuff perfect, or random people cussing when they play games.

    Give me, even if it is small, a memorable moment in the game, that is all I ask for. if the most memorable moment is a bad one, show it, and show why it is so difficult. AVGN is able to do that if you ignore his cussing. Some of the other imitators just cuss alot and think it is awesome.

    And as for the funniest comedians not cussing, sorry, I disagree. Richard Prior is a comedic genius and he cusses like crazy. It is all based on the person themselves. Bill Cosby is an excellent comedian, and he would never cuss. Bob Saget cusses like crazy. Robin Williams cusses every once in awhile. There is nothing wrong with cussing as long as your jokes are funny. If your jokes are not funny, being stupid and using cuss words will not help you. A perfect example is Richard Prior. If you edited all of his cuss words with "p.c." words, you would still laugh like crazy. Think about some of these reviews when you do that same thing:
    "This game is worse than rhino poop and makes me want to put my head up a elephants bum and smell the poop." Uh, not all that great. Besides, South Park is better with their fart and poop jokes, watch that show if you are looking for that, because, whether you like the show or not, South Park is very good and executing poop and fart jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Sniper View Post
    RE: The AVGN 2600 video, it's just a joke. He does that on purpose, just watch it as a comedy video - don't take the guy seriously. I actually liked the 2600 video because it was pretty stupid... I found it to be almost a parody of how "modern" gamers would see such a system.
    Oh yeah, I knew the 5200 (I think that's what you meant) video was just a joke and not to be taken seriously, but it still enraged me nonetheless; I did not find it at all funny. It just really, really bugged the snot out of me. I found it really... cheap.

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    (For the record, I didn't get to play a 2600 back in the day because I was a baby. I started to play on a NES and aren't into the Atari systems but I still respect them, aheh.)
    Cool. You represent the type of gamer I like; not everyone was born right at the beginning of the video game era, and you gotta start somewhere, and that's cool, especially if you have a high regard and respect for things before your time (for example, I'm obsessed with tons of things that were around decades before I was born). What rubs me the wrong way is when younger people (not all, mind you) automatically thumb their nose at the older systems and games that were around before they were born. Such people regard older games as kitschy at best, or horrible and primitive at worst, because they are outside their frame of reference and experience. As for myself, I personally don't care for most latest-generation games because they are far too lifelike; I want my games to look like video games, not real life. It always makes me cringe when I hear about little kids, having been raised on PS3 and Xbox 360, complaining about the "bad graphics" of older systems.

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    And here I disagree with you. While I LIKE watching these videos, speed runs bore me because they're so -perfect-! I like to watch people play like a normal person would, not as a machine. But that's just me, though.
    Well, actually, we don't disagree all that much; I really just like seeing them played all the way through to learn how to do it and what the later stages look like. I wouldn't mind if they died a few times along the way. I was just sort of amazed at how perfect they did it without dying (then again, they COULD be spliced together from various save states). I know that I would be hit and die a million times myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD AND REOPEN MY NEW ONE. I had everything organized. The old one is messy and I can't edit the title. I want the new one to stay forever. Not the old one. Close the old one. Reopen the new one. I said I won't make any more. I don't want this one to be the thread that will stay forever. I want the old one. I had everything laid out perfectly, and someone had to close it. I wrote that if any other threads exist, please just close them down. If this doesn't happen, I'll just make another, final one, and leave it at that.

    You see, now theres this magical thing called editing. Just go and edit your first post by copy/pasting in the stuff that had been locked in your most recent thread if thats what you want the first post to be. You can also edit the thread title as well if you go into the advanced editing options once you've hit edit on that first post.

    Last I looked, this thread already had the title GameDude in it so your fans knew who you were post the previous name change. If you are unable to figure out how to edit the title, I can do so for you. You will however not get another new thread, it is unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD AND REOPEN MY NEW ONE. I had everything organized. The old one is messy and I can't edit the title. I want the new one to stay forever. Not the old one. Close the old one. Reopen the new one. I said I won't make any more. I don't want this one to be the thread that will stay forever. I want the old one. I had everything laid out perfectly, and someone had to close it. I wrote that if any other threads exist, please just close them down. If this doesn't happen, I'll just make another, final one, and leave it at that.
    You are perilously close to not "staying here forever." Keep your angry schtick directed toward the (undeserving) games you review and not the staff of this forum, kthx.

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    Spoonyone is okay, but I don't think he's scripted. I think scripted is a lot harder than non-scripted, because by improvising, you sound more real, but by reading a script, unless you're a very good actor, you sound fake, and that's the main problem I'm having now.

    Armake21, Spoonyone, and many others, are good, but they're not scripted, and like they say, "It's worse before it's better." I've skipped the non-scripting to directly focus on scripting. I think scripting is better than non-scripting because it's more professional. So once I master scripting, then I'll be a lot better. I don't know. I'm guessing.

    I've been doing this for three months, and I started school one month ago, so I have to suck. Besides, the Nerd himself said the voice acting and editing are good. I bought lighting equipment, and all that stuff, so once I really start learning the good stuff at school (Vancouver Film School), then I hope my work will be a lot more professional.

    So far, my goal is to have no 3.5 star rated videos. I have one curse that needs to be revised, and that's the awful Mario Kart review. After that, I must have no 4.0 star rated videos, than no 4.5 star rated videos. They all must have 5 stars each, and I will reach that goal for sure.

    AND NO, I don't yell the last word of every sentence. That was just at the beginning. By the way, I changed the tone of my voice for my TMNT review. Check it out, and tell me if I should go back to the yelling or not. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k8track View Post
    I know that I would be hit and die a million times myself.
    That's why I too like the speed runs and perfect play-throughs.

    If I wanted to watch a video of someone messing up and dying every so often I'll just check out my own Halo 3 videos.

    (Lots of "What the *hell* was I thinking when I did *that*?!?" comes out of my mouth when checking those vids out )
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    My reviews aren't just montages of deaths. I make sure I point out the important and funny flaws.

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    Someone needs to do a review on "angry" reviewers, because the AVGN is great (you either love him or hate him, I love him) and this... is not.

    The videos do a good job explaining why the games suck, but your voice is too loud and there is too much swearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    I bought lighting equipment, and all that stuff, so once I really start learning the good stuff at school (Vancouver Film School), then I hope my work will be a lot more professional.


    Film school is scam! You'll eventually get sucked into the boring world of corporate A/V. Take my word for it.

    I'm also not envisioning your methodology here. So help me understand... You're spending money on film school so you can make youtube videos that rip off other youtube videos? 1000's of people do this everyday, without the aid of any sort of formal film education.

    If you want some real advice, I'll give you some for free. Drop out and become an alcoholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrusmonger View Post
    Someone needs to do a review on "angry" reviewers, because the AVGN is great (you either love him or hate him, I love him) and this... is not.

    The videos do a good job explaining why the games suck, but your voice is too loud and there is too much swearing.
    My Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review is my newest one, and my voice is nowhere near loud, and there's barely any swearing. Besides, the Nerd swears a lot, himself. Watch my TMNT video. Do you like that voice better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDomesticInstitution View Post
    Film school is scam! You'll eventually get sucked into the boring world of corporate A/V. Take my word for it.

    I'm also not envisioning your methodology here. So help me understand... You're spending money on film school so you can make youtube videos that rip off other youtube videos? 1000's of people do this everyday, without the aid of any sort of formal film education.

    If you want some real advice, I'll give you some for free. Drop out and become an alcoholic.
    Wow. That was a very dumb reply that you made.
    Film school is not a scam. The Nerd went for 5 years, and now he's famous. I won't get sucked into any of that corporate crap, and I will not take your word for it, unless you have facts.

    I'm spending money on film school, not to be a rip off, but to be original, and eventually, to be a movie star or something, but that's in the future. Now, I'm reviewing games. You're right. 1,000's do, do this every day without any sort of film education, AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUCK! The Nerd, iRate Gamer, Nostalgia Critic, and Zero Punctuation, and I, may be the only ones that went to school. Once I finish school, I will be famous. Watch.

    Drop out and become an alcoholic? That's probably what you did. Man, oh, man, that was a stupid reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    My Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review is my newest one, and my voice is nowhere near loud, and there's barely any swearing. Besides, the Nerd swears a lot, himself. Watch my TMNT video. Do you like that voice better?
    Yes, I just watched most of this TMNT right now and you do a better job at keeping the level of your voice to something reasonable to listen to.

    The AVGN is funny, and his curses are funny, he is a funny guy. You are cursing like he does, for the hell of it, but it just doesn't work for you. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.

    The videos are just not enjoyable, if you put your stuff out there you will get opinions- so it's nothing personal. Something personal though- you might want to reconsider your goal of going to film school to become a movie star- I don't know you at all, but I'm sure you'd have an easier time if you wanted to go to medical or law school.

    If you want to make it in film school (not like I went to film school or anything) then I would hope you do try something original as soon as possible, these curse-filled game reviews are nothing you should be proud of, and certainly not something you could ever think about using in a portfolio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander4488 View Post
    Man, oh, man, that was a stupid reply.
    It's obvious that there's a sore lack of Truffaut influences on youtube.

    Can you imagine how great the Chocolate Rain video could have been if that dude had went to NYU? I'm really starting to see where you're going with this whole film school/youtube combination.

    While you're at it grow a sense of humor. It'd help your videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrusmonger View Post
    Yes, I just watched most of this TMNT right now and you do a better job at keeping the level of your voice to something reasonable to listen to.

    The AVGN is funny, and his curses are funny, he is a funny guy. You are cursing like he does, for the hell of it, but it just doesn't work for you. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.

    The videos are just not enjoyable, if you put your stuff out there you will get opinions- so it's nothing personal. Something personal though- you might want to reconsider your goal of going to film school to become a movie star- I don't know you at all, but I'm sure you'd have an easier time if you wanted to go to medical or law school.

    If you want to make it in film school (not like I went to film school or anything) then I would hope you do try something original as soon as possible, these curse-filled game reviews are nothing you should be proud of, and certainly not something you could ever think about using in a portfolio.
    Dude. I've been doing this for 3 months. Before three months, I knew absolutely nothing on how to make movies. I didn't even know what video editing looked like, or how to talk into a microphone or anything like that. The Nerd has been making movies since he was three. The Nerd has to be better. If I were most people, I would still be recording a TV screen in the dark, with a crooked camera, yelling and rambling, messing up words, and talking about nonsense, and if that's semi what my videos are now, well then that's because I'm brand new. In fact, I'm so new, there's no reason for you now, to make a funnier video game review. Don't forget, all my videos are scripted, which is a lot harder to do than non-scripted reviews, but if done right, are much nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDomesticInstitution View Post
    It's obvious that there's a sore lack of Truffaut influences on youtube.

    Can you imagine how great the Chocolate Rain video could have been if that dude had went to NYU? I'm really starting to see where you're going with this whole film school/youtube combination.

    While you're at it grow a sense of humor. It'd help your videos.
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    How old are you, Game Dude? I always get hammered for my opinionated views (sometimes rightly so I guess), but I'm gonna state something else that might get me flamed:

    I don't think any classic video game reviewer should be under the age of 33, 32 at minimum. I myself am 35, a hardcore classic gamer and former editor of Zap!, and didn't even play video games until 1979. Even at my age, I missed the entire Pong Age. Consider that Break Out was out a full three years before I even played a game. How in the world is someone born in (let's say) 1981 or 1982 *cough*AVGN*cough*IrateGamer*cough* supposed to know their stuff? Simple answer? They don't. What we really need to see is a serious gamer that's 33-40 start making videoes, and I am seriously considering it myself. So far my favorite is The Happy Console Gamer. You can tell he actually played the games in their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    How old are you, Game Dude? I always get hammered for my opinionated views (sometimes rightly so I guess), but I'm gonna state something else that might get me flamed:

    I don't think any classic video game reviewer should be under the age of 33, 32 at minimum. I myself am 35, a hardcore classic gamer and former editor of Zap!, and didn't even play video games until 1979. Even at my age, I missed the entire Pong Age. Consider that Break Out was out a full three years before I even played a game. How in the world is someone born in (let's say) 1981 or 1982 *cough*AVGN*cough*IrateGamer*cough* supposed to know their stuff? Simple answer? They don't. What we really need to see is a serious gamer that's 33-40 start making videoes, and I am seriously considering it myself. So far my favorite is The Happy Console Gamer. You can tell he actually played the games in their time.

    There, I said it, flame away.
    Funny how you just scraped by the cutoff age, isn't it?

    By that flawless logic, anyone who reviews Shakespeare should be over the age of 450.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Funny how you just scraped by the cutoff age, isn't it?

    By that flawless logic, anyone who reviews Shakespeare should be over the age of 450.
    The difference is there is no one who is 450, so so every Shakespeare reviewer has no choice but to have missed it the first time around. There are plenty of people left who are over age 32. I'd rather have a classic reviewer that played the classics the first time around, rather than just buying it off eBay and playing it for the first time. The problem with that is 9 times out of 10 the magic will be gone. Playing SMB for the first time today is not the same as playing it for the first time in 1985 like I did.

    I will say that there are exceptions. Certain 20 year olds even, if they're hard-core VG historians, can know their stuff and make excellent reviewers. Happy Console Gamer appears under 30, and he is and always was hardcore. But not people like AVGN. There's no way that guy even heard of a Neo-Geo in 1990, let alone owned one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    "..." But not people like AVGN. There's no way that guy even heard of a Neo-Geo in 1990, let alone owned one.
    ... Well in his defense, I've played NeoGeo games as early as 1991 - in local arcades. I didn't know what the NeoGeo was until a year later, when I found a four-game MVS system.
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