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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2600 View Post
    I remember thinking that players who chose the boomerang wouldn't get very far. Not many enemies could be defeated with it.
    But maybe the boomerang used to be more powerfull so when they decreased it's strength they got rid of the choice as well.

    But then again my brother, who is a self-proclaimed Legend of Zelda master, has beaten the game having never taken the sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    I don't know how to take a screen grab from that video. ANyone know how?

    I'd like to examine the text and translate it.

    -Rob
    The video is very small and compressed, but here is an enlarged screen shot:



    Is it clear enough to translate?


    By the way, here's a crystal clear abridged version of that video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5aErhrhqXs

    Too bad it doesn't show the boomerang/sword screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb143 View Post
    Only because it gives some insight into the Zelda that could have been.

    Still no word on if a prototype rom exists?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2600 View Post
    Yes. I remember thinking that players who chose the boomerang wouldn't get very far. Not many enemies could be defeated with it. Maybe the designers were experimenting with balance at that point.
    Early NES betas like that are near impossible to find. You'd have to ask Miyamoto himself, or we'll probably never know.

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    Is it clear enough to translate?
    Maybe. Do you have the original small one too?

    Some of the syllables are blurred by enlargement, where some others are made clearer. I know I could just shrink this one, but it may not be the same.

    -Rob

    EDIT: Well, I don't have much yet, but here's the symbols I can make out. All are in katakana.

    Hi to ge (?)(?)(?) ge n so *
    Su * no bu * wa to (?)

    Not sure what those blotches are, so I just put asterisks there. The question marks are things I can't distinguish. Maybe other frames of the video would have less blurriness?

    Hey, I've got an idea...anyone got a good screen grab of the name entry section for the FDS Zeruda no Densetsu? I'm at workand not able to obtain it right now. It would make a great comparison.

    -Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    Maybe. Do you have the original small one too?

    Some of the syllables are blurred by enlargement, where some others are made clearer. I know I could just shrink this one, but it may not be the same.

    -Rob

    EDIT: Well, I don't have much yet, but here's the symbols I can make out. All are in katakana.

    Hi to ge (?)(?)(?) ge n so *
    Su * no bu * wa to (?)

    Not sure what those blotches are, so I just put asterisks there. The question marks are things I can't distinguish. Maybe other frames of the video would have less blurriness?

    -Rob
    I captured different frames and they're almost equally blurry. Here's a photo at the original size:

    Last edited by Rob2600; 01-14-2008 at 09:28 AM.

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    Edited above post, btw.

    Hey just how did you capture those grabs anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    Hey, I've got an idea...anyone got a good screen grab of the name entry section for the FDS Zeruda no Densetsu? I'm at workand not able to obtain it right now. It would make a great comparison.
    These should help:














    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    Edited above post, btw.

    Hey just how did you capture those grabs anyway?
    In Mac OS X, I use the built-in Grab utility (Applications-Utilities-Grab).

    In Windows XP, I press the "Print Screen" key on the keyboard and then paste the image into an image editing program (in my case, Photoshop).
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    Well, the print screen function blacks out that part of the picture when a video is on screen. Stupid WIndows.

    Those screens do help, but isn't there a screen that allows you to type your name that lists all the symbols on one page? I seem to remember the name input screen working that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    Those screens do help, but isn't there a screen that allows you to type your name that lists all the symbols on one page? I seem to remember the name input screen working that way.
    Yes, but I can't find anything like that online and I don't have a Famicom Disk System.

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    Wow, I was way off on that first line. I see it matches one of the pics.





    The correct first line is

    hi to ri de ? ki ke n ja

    second line somewhat corrected:
    Shu no byu wa to (?)

    I'm quite positive onthe first line, except that one character. The second line, I'm not positive, but it's gotta be close. Wish I knew wtf those other two symbols where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    I'm quite positive onthe first line, except that one character. The second line, I'm not positive, but it's gotta be close. Wish I knew wtf those other two symbols where.
    Problem is, the first line in those pictures is the same, but the second one is different. Look closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2600 View Post
    These should help:

    Please tell me "Kill Mode" is the erase entry option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PingvinBlueJeans View Post
    Problem is, the first line in those pictures is the same, but the second one is different. Look closely.

    Umm, yeah, that's what I said, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbudrick View Post
    Those screens do help, but isn't there a screen that allows you to type your name that lists all the symbols on one page? I seem to remember the name input screen working that way.
    Ask and you shall receive...



    All this talk about not having a Famicom Disk System, most modern NES emulators will run FDS games as long as you have a FDS disksys.rom BIOS file. NEStopia is my emulator of choice. Hell, you can play FDS games on the Dreamcast with NESterDC v7.1.

    Quote Originally Posted by kainemaxwell View Post
    Please tell me "Kill Mode" is the erase entry option.
    :P
    Yup, "Elimination Mode" on USA games was almost always "Kill Mode" on the Japanese original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid View Post
    Ask and you shall receive...
    Wow, thanks! Maybe now someone can put all of the pieces together and translate that boomerang/sword screenshot.

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    Thanks, InsaneD!

    Ok, pretty sure about this now:

    First line:
    hi to ri de ha ki ke n ja

    Second Line:
    shu no byu u to ru

    That shu could be sha, but I don't think much else. The byu could be bya, or something else, but I doubt it.

    I'll try to check this against my dictionaries when I get home, since I'm not that great at Japanese.

    -Rob
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    That's great. We could finally solve this twenty-year-old mystery!

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    Good job gumshoes.

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    This is comming along much better than I ever expected.

    Now watch it say something like "It's dangerous to go alone. Take this. And this banana if you get hungry."

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    一人では危険じゃ

    That's the first line if it weren't written in katakana.

    Hitori de is "by or for oneself, alone." Kiken is "danger."

    Tha'ts all I got out of the first line.

    The second line is a pain in the ass. The only thing I'm pretty sure about is toru, "take."

    I can't get my head around Japanese grammar, so I can't get anexact translation, but "It's dangerous to go alone, take one of these" is my guess, but I'm just going by the few words I actually got. I quit...anyone else wanna pick up from here?

    -Rob
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