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Thread: You might want to hold out on the Wii Zapper...

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    Just looking at Nyko's Perfect Shot controller shell brings back childhood memories spent playing Namco Arcade Shooters. Now a bit of that nostalgia is coming to the Wii. I like Nintendo's zapper attachment is nice, but the plain white design was a bit generic for my tastes. This, however, is a whole other story. The shape of the gun, the colors used, all have a throwback feel – and I like it. A tactile trigger controls the B button, and apass through port allows the nunchuck or other future add-on to be used. With light gun games starting to arrive on Wii, I may have to pick this up, just to relive some of my nerd glory days. The Perfect Shot should be available on December 24 for $12.99.

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    Why hold out? I'd get em both. Though, I could see a use for more than one of the Nyko gunshells - unlike the Zapper. Thanks for the heads up.


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    i didnt think game companies allowed realistic looking guns to be made for their machines

    im thinking this may not be on the market very long, get it while you can

    im going to get the zapper just for the crossbow game

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbid View Post
    i didnt think game companies allowed realistic looking guns to be made for their machines

    im thinking this may not be on the market very long, get it while you can

    im going to get the zapper just for the crossbow game
    That's a realistic looking gun?

    You never saw the guncon, I'm guessing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    That's a realistic looking gun?

    You never saw the guncon, I'm guessing...
    The laws about realistic-looking toy guns changed after the Guncon 1 was made, hence the Guncon 2's entire bright-orange or blue color.

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    Except the main issue here isn't the holder; it's the fact that's it's still not a light gun. You're still aiming at the sensor bar.

    Until someone can figure out how to split the sensor bar in 2 and allow it to be clipped to a television's halfway point (i.e. centered), it wouldn't matter what the gun holder looks like.

    I bought the zapper for Crossbow training, and haven't used the zapper after it's initial offering.

    Crossbow training on the other hand is amazingly fun.

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    I thought I saw that in one of the black friday adds. Maybe Toys-R-Us had them for $5. I'm almost sure of it.
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    I have the zapper and I am definately getting both,.. nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerboy View Post
    Except the main issue here isn't the holder; it's the fact that's it's still not a light gun. You're still aiming at the sensor bar.

    Until someone can figure out how to split the sensor bar in 2 and allow it to be clipped to a television's halfway point (i.e. centered),
    I don't have the time to work on this right now, but it will be something I will do in the future. Won't be too hard either: http://gamershabitat.com/2006/11/21/...al-sensor-bar/

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    I still want all of the guns, so I can have my own little wii arsenal and then when friends come over we'll be like a crack fighting team fighting for the good of the people and their property.
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    that does look like it would be a lot better than the zapper, and even though i haven't used the zapper yet, i'm weary about how fast you can actually aim and shoot with these things.

    i mean, light gun rail shooters are all about speed and precision, and from what fps' i've played on the wii, the cursor always goes all wonky when you try to move too fast.

    why can't they just make a regular light gun game for the system with it's own gun and not force you to use the IR remote?

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    there can be only one! (nintendo zapper that is) and its bright orange... or gray if you have a slightly older version lol
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    this looks like it'd feel/work better for gun games probably. Certainly looks better and its cheaper (though without a cool game like links crossbow)

    All I know is I have and am happy with my zapper

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    I do like the look of that, however, it's very similar to the gun shell that I have ...



    ... and as I've stated before, and I'm not sure if this is a universal issue with both that style of shell AND the Wii Zapper, but the way that the Wiimote is seated in the gun shell - your shots will always register slightly HIGHER on the screen than you're expecting them to by looking down the gun "site".

    I've tried to adjust the issue by placing the sensor bar on both the bottom and top of my TV set with no luck. Pointing the Wiimote without the shell seems to be more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FantasiaWHT View Post
    The laws about realistic-looking toy guns changed after the Guncon 1 was made, hence the Guncon 2's entire bright-orange or blue color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slip81 View Post
    why can't they just make a regular light gun game for the system with it's own gun and not force you to use the IR remote?
    Because you can't use light guns with non-CRT monitors. They won't work with RPTV, plasma, and LCD TV sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniHamachi View Post
    Because you can't use light guns with non-CRT monitors. They won't work with RPTV, plasma, and LCD TV sets.
    actually they do make guns that work with flat panel monitors, search for a thing called the TopGun. though for me it's a non-issue since I own a crt hd set.

    how does the time crisis 4 gun work? surely it must support lcd, plasma and projection sets, it seems highly unlikely that sony would put a fancy pants 1080p game on their new fangled hd entertainment system that wouldn't support flat panels, since i'm willing to bet that most ps3 owners are using them on LCD sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by slip81 View Post
    how does the time crisis 4 gun work? surely it must support lcd, plasma and projection sets, it seems highly unlikely that sony would put a fancy pants 1080p game on their new fangled hd entertainment system that wouldn't support flat panels, since i'm willing to bet that most ps3 owners are using them on LCD sets
    From Shacknews.com:

    The PlayStation 3 port of Time Crisis 4, the latest in the long-running light gun shooter series, uses the Wii approach. It comes with its own set of IR sensors that must sit atop the TV. It even has its own aiming calibration that attempts to match up its triangulation with the specific dimensions of your TV.

    The problem is, at the end of the day, this IR-based light gun simply does not feel as rock-solid as a real pixel-precise light gun--but Time Crisis 4 has no reticule.

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    alright, never mind, after some youtubing it looks like that TopGun uses ir sensors as well. shows how much i know.

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