E3 2006 - News, Updates, pics, videos official thread.

[GrandAmChandler]

That's right! Post all news, pics, videos, etc. that you can find from this week's E3 show in this thread. This way people can find all the latest in one thread instead of searching through multiple threads! This will be sticky-fied for your pleasure.

I can't wait to hear more about Nintendo's little Wii-Wii!

[Joker T]

Calll of Duty 3
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/vids_1.html

Console only :angry:

[NE146]

I'm definitely looking forward to news on the Revolution.. when is E3 anyway?

[odyeiop]

Nintendo's press conference is tomorrow =D

[downfall]

Square-Enix has confirmed both a sequel to Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, and a new Dragon Quest game, both for the Wii launch.

That's huge!

- source is www.ign.com

[Dobie]

Calll of Duty 3
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/vids_1.html

Console only :angry:

Sweeeeet. Hopefully multiplayer will work out of the box this time. I loved COD2. Best game of last year.

[THATinkjar]

Sonic E3 trailer (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/e3/sonic-e3-trailer-172311.php). Looks more like Unreal Tournament than Sonic :(

[njiska]

The Lost planet demo is on live now but only accessable through the ads.

[Tamashii Sensei]

Square-Enix has confirmed both a sequel to Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, and a new Dragon Quest game, both for the Wii launch.

That's huge!

- source is www.ign.com

Yes!!!

[keiblerfan69]

Sonic E3 trailer (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/e3/sonic-e3-trailer-172311.php). Looks more like Unreal Tournament than Sonic :(

I can't wait for that game.

[Joker T]

Tony Hawk on Wii

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/tonyhawksdownhilljam/screenindex.html

[hezeuschrist]

Square-Enix has confirmed both a sequel to Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, and a new Dragon Quest game, both for the Wii launch.

That's huge!

- source is www.ign.com

There are VERY few pieces of news that can literally leave my mouth agape, but this one did for at least a minute just now.

"Huge" might be the understatment of the century.

[cyberfluxor]

Oh my god! I stumbled across the new screenshots for Supreme Commander and I'm still going nuts over it. What they've shown so far astounds me and can't wait for its release. Gas Powered Games will be teasing people at E3 about what they now have. If anyone an I mean ANYONE has some awesome information to share about it, I will be all open ears and eyes. Plus camera shots would be appreciated!
Check out the new screens here (http://media.pc.ign.com/media/755/755287/imgs_1.html)

This is one of the amazing pics I've seen out of the new shots:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/cyberfluxor/desk.jpg

Then of course they're talking about Unreal Turnament 2007 being showcased at E3. I really want to see how that is turning out as well!

[suckerpunch5]

Wow. The Sony press conference just showed a PS3/Eye Toy card battle game. It was amazing. They put a card down on the table, the eye toy read it, and generated a monster on top of the card (just like the cartoons!) Throw down another card, and the two creatures will fight! It was really cool, and I want it. It was called, um . . . I can't remember. Eye of judgement!

OMG! PSP is gonna emulate PS1, via the memory stick!

They just showed a trailer for a game3 called LAIR. You guys have got to check it out. Fighting on the backs of dragons!

They just showed another game, Assasins (something) that looked really good (for ps3). Hmm ... and Tekken 6.

[Jasoco]

Underwhelming.

I didn't expect much from Sony anyway. So far the only thing that sounds good is the PS1 emulation on the PSP. IF it's done right. I have no video so I have not seen the so-called awesome PS3 "Dashboard" interface. Nor have I seen what I'm hoping is Naughty Dog's Crash Bandicoot/Jak & Daxter successor for the PS3. I want screen caps!

[njiska]

The controller rips of the Wii. The online system is a carbon copy of live and the graphics are no better then the 360. NOT A FUCKING ORIGINAL IDEA IN THE ENTIRE PRESS CONFERENCE.

[Jasoco]

Holy shit! The bastards did it! They put freaking motion control in the goshdang DualShock 3.

WTF?

Have they no shame? They opened up with a big speech about how the Sony Controller was a big revolution when the PS1 came out. (Which it WASN'T. Not for years until NINTENDO came out with rumble features and control sticks.) Now they blatantly rip off the motion stuff and pass it off as if they just came up with it on their own?

[Jasoco]

November 11th, 2006 in Japan
Open price for retailers.

November 17th, 2006 in US
Very expensive for us in US and Canada. Very very.

VERY.

[hezeuschrist]

Sony will be the topic of conversation for the next... 16 hours. The new EyeToy game really grabbed me but I'm at work so i can't really view video... much. It's not something I'm personally interested in but it's definitely a direction I'd like to see the industry move in.

The PS1 emulation will kick all kinds of ass if you can emulate games you own, but I'm sure they'll charge through the nose for downloads of games you've already paid for. That blows, and it's the same boat I'm in for the Virtual Console. Just give me emus for games I already own and I'll be mighty happy.

The online features are pretty much a been there, done that reaction from me. And I have no desire to download videos of other users performances in SingStar. Ugh.

And this just in, holy shit, Sony copied Nintendo in record time here. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I guess.

But they stick to the dual shock controller in the end. Assholes.

Oh oh, this is lovely.


It will be available in two versions: one with a 60GB hard drive, and one with 20GB. It will launch in the US on November 17 for $499 for the 20GB version and $599 for the 60GB one.


They have got one hell of an uphill battle ahead of them.

I'm kinda pissed off. I know I want one because it WILL have FFXIII and a whole load of other JRPGs I want, but $500, $600? CHRIST.

....

Now I just need to know when I can preorder one :(

[Jasoco]

60GB and 20GB pack
November 17th
20 GB $499/549 CDN
60 GB $599/659 CDN.

FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS?! I THOUGHT THE XBOX 360 WAS FUCKING EXPENSIVE!

[Joker T]

PS3 price.

$499 for version with 20gb hdd
$599 for version with 60gb hdd

[suckerpunch5]

I'm so pissed off about how they coppied Wii. That is just sick.

You know what, forget them. I'm not gonna pay $599 for a freaking PS3! Now I really am looking foward to the Wiivolution. They can sit on their rip-off piece of trash. It looked just like the 360, only with some cooler games. Screw that.

[hezeuschrist]

From the sounds of it having only 6-way motion sensing capabilities, I really don't expect it to steal much thunder from the Wii. Tilting, banking, and altitiude is likely all it'll do which is a far cry from using the Wiimote to perform lob shots and put overhand spin on a tennis ball.

EDIT: But seriously, Dualshock 3? Those fucking cocksuckers. What the hell is wrong with them? I don't mind the blatant plagerism of motion sensing from Nintendo and Xbox Live from Microsoft, those are great ideas that deserve to be replicated.

And you know how many times someone has tried to replicate the Dualshock controller? ZERO. Why? Because it's NOT WORTH REPLICATING. I'm more pissed about this than I am about the price because that really was to be expected.

[heybtbm]

PS3 price.

$499 for version with 20gb hdd
$599 for version with 60gb hdd

That sound you hear is Microsoft winning this generation of the console wars.

$600?!? Those games better be damn good. At least PS3's will be easier to find on store shelves for the first few months than 360's were.

[Jasoco]

EDIT: But seriously, Dualshock 3? Those fucking cocksuckers. What the hell is wrong with them? I don't mind the blatant plagerism of motion sensing from Nintendo and Xbox Live from Microsoft, those are great ideas that deserve to be replicated.

And you know how many times someone has tried to replicate the Dualshock controller? ZERO. Why? Because it's NOT WORTH REPLICATING. I'm more pissed about this than I am about the price because that really was to be expected.Sadly, they don't change it because so many people actually like it.

I've actually been getting used to it. But give me a GameCube or Xbox DUKE any day. Something round and fitting to my hand and I'm happy.

[joshnickerson]

PS3 price.

$499 for version with 20gb hdd
$599 for version with 60gb hdd

That sound you hear is Microsoft winning this generation of the console wars.

$600?!? Those games better be damn good. At least PS3's will be easier to find on store shelves for the first few months than 360's were.

$200-$249 for Nintendo Wii

No, that was the sound of Nintendo winning this generation. ;)

[Kevin]

Sony had this generation and they blew it with the price. Jesus.

[mregashu]

Hmm. Not what I wanted to see from Sony. Graphically, I saw nothing that blows MS out of the water, especially with the difference in price. Controller-wise, I saw nothing that blew Nintendo out of the water, especially at that price.

Also, regarding the same dual shock design: am I the only one who hates where the analog sticks are on those things? There was a reason why the d-pad was higher up when that was the focus - comfort. I would love to see the right stick moved higher.

Overall, I think this creates a real interesting scenario for this generation. Nintendo with a real shock to how games are played, albeit with less graphical pop. MS staying the course, with a lot more shine on the product. Sony doing a little of both, and doing so half-assed. If history is any indication, I think Sony still might come out on top b/c of the name and the supposed "best of both worlds", even if it is more likely a mediocre combining of both worlds.

[Jasoco]

If history is any indication, I think Sony still might come out on top b/c of the name and the supposed "best of both worlds", even if it is more likely a mediocre combining of both worlds.*sigh*

Sadly, you're right. Because consumers are sheep. They blindly follow the leader without regard to the grass on the outer sides of the pasture.

[keiblerfan69]

I am so happy that I bought a 360.

[odyeiop]

Sadly, you're right. Because consumers are sheep. They blindly follow the leader without regard to the grass on the outer sides of the pasture.
So what you are trying to say... is kill the leader?

Hmm.. alrighty.. =D Let's do it!

[PapaStu]

Underwhelming.

I didn't expect much from Sony anyway. So far the only thing that sounds good is the PS1 emulation on the PSP. IF it's done right. I have no video so I have not seen the so-called awesome PS3 "Dashboard" interface. Nor have I seen what I'm hoping is Naughty Dog's Crash Bandicoot/Jak & Daxter successor for the PS3. I want screen caps!

Naughty Dog's game was a very Tomb Raider-esque game with no listed title and honestly looked so so. The lead character is a human, so theres no more furry critters popping up, at least for the time being. The footage shown looked to be ingame stuff, but it was a video.

Insominac's game was called Resistance: Fall Of Man. A 1950's based shooter taking place in England/Europe where England is the last Free State in Europe/The World. The gameplay looked ok, but the levels felt too chaotic for me. Just alot of these alien baddies that took over the world popping in and out of the Rubble.

@ Sony in general.
The Price point, though high, will still sell and they will sell well. They are even more recognized than MS and they got away with the 399 tag. Sony will get away with the 20Gig 499 and 60Gig 599 tag no question. The controller is interesting and took one step above Nintendo's, there is no need for a relay switch on top of your TV, which is nice considering the TV's they are aimed at are so thin that there's really no place for one as it is. The controller is so light because well... there probably isn't a rumble feature built into it... What will make it or break it is what developers do to it, but that will most likley depend on what the Nintendo Developers do for that controller.

Their online service will be a XBL clone. However, like with XBL the extra game content that they are hyping is more than likely going to be way more on the thin side than it is out there for every game. Look at the general lack of DL content that shows up for games on XBL as it is. Maps take eons to show, and there are rarely updated past the one or two times something new gets put up.

The games though they look nice, arn't anything all that special yet... Give them a year, and then the real hot shit will start to show.

The PSP-PS3 connectivity isn't going to be anything hot or wow, since its got that same feel of what happened with the cube and the GBA. Wow, select your play on the GBA so the opponent cant see you.... Use your PSP as a rear view mirror... Ohhh Ahhhh.

[hezeuschrist]

The controller is interesting and took one step above Nintendo's, there is no need for a relay switch on top of your TV, which is nice considering the TV's they are aimed at are so thin that there's really no place for one as it is. .

I was thinking that too, but then I realized something: Sony is missing the other 354 degrees Nintendo has. It will be nice though for the reason the demo shown illustrated, as long as it isn't as exagerated as it seemed from the descritiptions. If you really have to move it a large degree to do anything then it'll be worthless. You've got no range of motion when you're forced to have your hands clasped together.

Now if all it offers is tiling and no movement aspects, I think it'll be great. But the way IGN made it sound seems like it'll be pretty worthless.

[Roi]

Lol Sony LOL :angry: !

http://sonyihateyou.ytmnd.com/

[Jhonny_ParadoX]

PS3 price.

$499 for version with 20gb hdd
$599 for version with 60gb hdd

That sound you hear is Microsoft winning this generation of the console wars.

$600?!? Those games better be damn good. At least PS3's will be easier to find on store shelves for the first few months than 360's were.

$200-$249 for Nintendo Wii

No, that was the sound of Nintendo winning this generation. ;)

That, actually, was the sound of a Wii in a lot of homes with a ps3 or xbox 360.

[Jasoco]

No integrated wireless in the low end.

No HDMI in the low end.

No rumble in the controller... wait... then why the fuck call it a DualSHOCK? That's what the SHOCK was! It's a DualSit now.

Wow... such a big big mistake. Finally! Sony has stepped on its own toes. Only time will tell of their gradual decline from the video gaming throne.

Muahahahahahahaaaaa!!! http://www.jasoco.net/geekpub/img/smilies/kefka-laugh.gif

I can totally see a 360 price drop when the PS3 hits just to enhance the distance between the price points of the two systems. It would be MS' smartest move ever.

[Jhonny_ParadoX]

Sorry, double post. :/

[petewhitley]

I was thinking that too, but then I realized something: Sony is missing the other 354 degrees Nintendo has ... Now if all it offers is tiling and no movement aspects, I think it'll be great. But the way IGN made it sound seems like it'll be pretty worthless.

I think your analysis of the "six degrees of freedom" is pretty off-base.

[PapaStu]

Two more things....

One because i'm a big Halo nut (http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/734/734817.html)

And the other because I do truly love Sony (http://pages.infinit.net/shadowld/no.gif)

[Retsudo]

I can say now Im officially out of the Videogame buisness. I cant see myself buying something at those prices. Especially not knowing if it's going to have DRE's like the PS2. I would really feel like a Jackass.

[PapaStu]

The controller is interesting and took one step above Nintendo's, there is no need for a relay switch on top of your TV, which is nice considering the TV's they are aimed at are so thin that there's really no place for one as it is. .

I was thinking that too, but then I realized something: Sony is missing the other 354 degrees Nintendo has. It will be nice though for the reason the demo shown illustrated, as long as it isn't as exagerated as it seemed from the descritiptions. If you really have to move it a large degree to do anything then it'll be worthless. You've got no range of motion when you're forced to have your hands clasped together.

Now if all it offers is tiling and no movement aspects, I think it'll be great. But the way IGN made it sound seems like it'll be pretty worthless.

I watched the guy play WarHawk (or whatver) with it. It was full ship movement with its tilting, including barrel rolls and stuff like that where he was actually turning the controller a full 360. It didn't look aquard other than I think it was a REALLY new functionality tossed into the game, so like all new controllers, we're all gonna look like asses for a little bit until we get the hang of it.

[Slate]

OK, so the PS3 is going to be $500 minimum. Where is microsoft's confirmation on the 360's price drop?

[RegSNES]

Just read about the news of the PS3's launch date and price a few hours ago at GameSpot. Good freaking grief. I knew the PS3 was gonna be exspensive but $600 for the 60GB hard drive version. Even $500 for the 20GB version doesn't seem cheap to me. Feels like Sony just kicked me in the balls. I loved the PSX and I love my PS2 but Sony can just go screw themselves now. Call me poor, I don't care but $500 is way too much for a freaking game machine.

[hezeuschrist]

I was thinking that too, but then I realized something: Sony is missing the other 354 degrees Nintendo has ... Now if all it offers is tiling and no movement aspects, I think it'll be great. But the way IGN made it sound seems like it'll be pretty worthless.

I think your analysis of the "six degrees of freedom" is pretty off-base.

Yeah, I know it doesn't actually work like that, but I suppose I need to see a video of that Warhawk demo.

But the fact still remains that it being a two handed controller without accelerometers gives it far more restricted applications than the Wiimote. It may require a sensor atop your TV, but it'll have infinitely more uses than the PS3 controller. Although I'm pretty sure if the thought of a Wii Pilotwings can give me a boner, the video of Warhawk could give me half a pack of rolaids in my diaper as well.

[RegSNES]

If history is any indication, I think Sony still might come out on top b/c of the name and the supposed "best of both worlds", even if it is more likely a mediocre combining of both worlds.*sigh*

Sadly, you're right. Because consumers are sheep. They blindly follow the leader without regard to the grass on the outer sides of the pasture.

Hopefully the sheep will stop and think "Wait a minute, this system is going to cost me an arm and a leg. And a kidney. And maybe a testicle... and a lot of blood. Wasn't there another console that costed $600-$700? It was the 3DO or something. But it didn't have the Sony name. Still, Sony name or not, the PS3 is not cheap. :eek 2:

[Richter]

what's the Dual Shock 3 look like? did they scrap the boomerang?

[hezeuschrist]

what's the Dual Shock 3 look like? did they scrap the boomerang?

Kotaku's main page has a picture of them.

Yes, it's the same Dual Shock we've had for the past 12 years. Except it's Silver. Wow. Amazing.

[RegSNES]

what's the Dual Shock 3 look like? did they scrap the boomerang?



EDIT: My bad, I'm way off.

[hezeuschrist]

It doesn't look anything like the Wii controller in any respect, it's the DualShock.

[RegSNES]

It doesn't look anything like the Wii controller in any respect, it's the DualShock.

Yeah, I just found out. Someone at Gamespot post a mock pic, which I thought was the PS3 controller and I thought that was it. My bad.

And are seriously calling this controller revolutionary?

[Jasoco]

what's the Dual Shock 3 look like? did they scrap the boomerang?

Kotaku's main page has a picture of them.

Yes, it's the same Dual Shock we've had for the past 12 years. Except it's Silver. Wow. Amazing.Silver? All the photos I've seen are black. Same as the PS2. Same as the PS3 is going to be now.

[hezeuschrist]

Yep, it'll be launched in two colors, Silver and "Clear Black"?

Check www.kotaku.com, they've got the scoop of images on the main page.

[DonMarco]

Has Sony cleaned up that Immersion lawsuit (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/13/sonys-appeal-denied-fate-of-dualshock-uncertain/) thing yet? Especially since the controller is supposed to be "lighter than a PS2 Dual Shock" and all...

If they have, please link me, because I missed it.


what's the Dual Shock 3 look like? did they scrap the boomerang?
Yes.

Edit: But not in spirit (http://dontpressstart.com/pro/works/tshirt_ps3.jpg)!!

[zerohero]

$600 ...........

[suckerpunch5]

Has Sony cleaned up that Immersion lawsuit (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/13/sonys-appeal-denied-fate-of-dualshock-uncertain/) thing yet? Especially since the controller is supposed to be "lighter than a PS2 Dual Shock" and all...

If they have, please link me, because I missed it.

Well, they cleared it up by losing. This is a big deal to me, because I think the rumble feature adds A LOT to games. Imagine Fatal Frame with no rumble. This is one of the things that really puts you in the game, and the Sony Pii no longer has it.

I'm starting to think the Pii is going to big a big pile of crap.

[RegSNES]

$600 ...........

I can already see eBayers planing to make that thing their cash cow.

As for the controller, I admit that it does feel comfortable, but man, come up with something new.

[Darren870]

Lets not forget the game and extra controller and warrenty that you are going to need to get day 1.

Already looking at $700 + and thats with one game.

[Jibbajaba]

I can totally see a 360 price drop when the PS3 hits just to enhance the distance between the price points of the two systems. It would be MS' smartest move ever.

I've been thinking that for awhile now, and now with the price of the PS3 being what it is, it makes it an even smarter move on MS's part. Go $249 and $349 for the core and premium, and the price is then nearly half of Sony's offering. This would also place the core system in a competitive position against the Wii, which I think is going to be the break-out star of the next generation. It's the cheapest and it's the only one that seems to offer something new.

Chris

[XYXZYZ]

I can totally see a 360 price drop when the PS3 hits just to enhance the distance between the price points of the two systems. It would be MS' smartest move ever.

And they'll probably be losing $200.00 per unit. No problem, they'll recover that when in-game advertising gets bigger.



You know what, forget them. I'm not gonna pay $599 for a freaking PS3! Now I really am looking foward to the Wiivolution. They can sit on their rip-off piece of trash. It looked just like the 360, only with some cooler games. Screw that.

You know what, I'm with Suckerpunch on this one. To hell with Sony, and to hell with Microsoft for that matter. I don't care anymore. I think all this bullshit about stealing controllers and making people try and guess what the price is going to be in 2009... I mean, everything they announce, or "leak" is done by some guys who sit back and say "If we announce that we also have a Wobbly controller, even a cheap one, it'll make our stock value go *this* way, and maybe Nintendo shares will go *that* way, then my Nintendo investor buddy will sell everything before that, and then after he gives me my kickback at the Country Club we'll hire a hacker to hack the EA page and announce some EA merger that will make their stock go under, so we can buy them... then we'll play two rounds of golf, do our cocaine and go home."

The PoS2 and the Xbox combined didn't give me a fraction of the fun my NES gave me, nor is it giving me half the fun my Japanese Saturn or PC Engine DUO is giving me now. I'm just going to stay in my little cave here and play Legend of Zelda for the rest of my life. :/

[zerohero]

Lets not forget the game and extra controller and warrenty that you are going to need to get day 1.

Already looking at $700 + and thats with one game.

I mean, unless I'm selling this on ebay, I'd have to be out right crazy to buy it. If I was wealthy, I'd get it, but I'm not close to wealthy.

I seriously thought Sony was going to be smart, but I guess they are too cought up into themselves in having dominated last gen. What they fail to realise is that if Gamecube would have came out around the same time, gamecube and sony would have had closer competition.

[Anthony1]

Lets not forget the game and extra controller and warrenty that you are going to need to get day 1.

Already looking at $700 + and thats with one game.

I mean, unless I'm selling this on ebay, I'd have to be out right crazy to buy it. If I was wealthy, I'd get it, but I'm not close to wealthy.

I seriously thought Sony was going to be smart, but I guess they are too cought up into themselves in having dominated last gen. What they fail to realise is that if Gamecube would have came out around the same time, gamecube and sony would have had closer competition.


I was able to get my greedy hands on 4 Xbox 360's last launch, and I sold 3 of them. The money that I made on the 3 deals paid for my 360 as well as a nice little laptop. You simply must learn how to use the system, and make it work for you. Sure, you can consider me a "Profiteer" for doing that, but shit, this crap is expensive. I have to figure out some way to pay for it all. It's not my fault that these companies have me addicted to their crack cocaine in the form of new consoles and games.

[swlovinist]

Sony has balls thinking that the mainstream public is going to shell out $500 for thier system, and that is for the cheap one! This is a very gutsy move, which may cost them dearly. It is offically confirmed that my next system will be the Wii just by the default of price.

[Lothars]

I can totally see a 360 price drop when the PS3 hits just to enhance the distance between the price points of the two systems. It would be MS' smartest move ever.

I've been thinking that for awhile now, and now with the price of the PS3 being what it is, it makes it an even smarter move on MS's part. Go $249 and $349 for the core and premium, and the price is then nearly half of Sony's offering. This would also place the core system in a competitive position against the Wii, which I think is going to be the break-out star of the next generation. It's the cheapest and it's the only one that seems to offer something new.

Chris

Well I agree that the Wii will be the break-out Star but I still think that most gamers will have the Wii and another console even though I still think the PS3 will be the main system this generation, if anything the blu-ray player helps alot.

[Lothars]

I can totally see a 360 price drop when the PS3 hits just to enhance the distance between the price points of the two systems. It would be MS' smartest move ever.

I've been thinking that for awhile now, and now with the price of the PS3 being what it is, it makes it an even smarter move on MS's part. Go $249 and $349 for the core and premium, and the price is then nearly half of Sony's offering. This would also place the core system in a competitive position against the Wii, which I think is going to be the break-out star of the next generation. It's the cheapest and it's the only one that seems to offer something new.

Chris

Well I agree that the Wii will be the break-out Star this generation but I still think that most gamers will have the Wii and another console even though I still think the PS3 will be the main system this generation, if anything the blu-ray player helps alot. but Microsoft seems to be doing alot of things right so if they do drop the price should be cool

very interesting time to be a gamer.

[THATinkjar]

So, the PlayStation 3 is still ugly, then? I'm not too excited. I'll be waiting a long time before I pick a PS3 up.

Bring on Nintendo's annoucements. Hell, I even hope the 360 makes a splash.

[Anthony1]

Anybody that is actually attending the e3 show, please go to the Sony area, and tell every rep you see that they absolutely, positively must bring back the rumble function. They can lose the motion sensor, considering it's a lame immitation of the Wii, and it's not even very good. For the Wii it makes alot of sense, for a Dual Shock? NO. It will only be good with driving and flying games. Big freaking deal. you know it's going to be underutilized. They need to bring back the Rumble.


Playing a FPS without rumble, is like eating dry toast. I like to feel my AK47 as I'm shooting it, and I like to feel when I've been shot. Remember the heart beat in the first Silent Hill game?


Also, what about trying to play old PS1 or PS2 games on the PS3, and you can't use the rumble feature? How freaking retarded is that?


SO PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AT e3, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN. There is still time for them to change their minds.

[James]

Most consumers, myself included do not have an HD capable set let alone a 1080P capable set and I don't see myself buying one for at least two years maybe longer. In order to utilize PS3 and even Xbox 360 you need an HD set otherwise the games don't look any better than PS2, Xbox or Gamecube or even Dreamcast and an upgrade is just a colossal waste of money. This is why I think Wii is going to be the way to go, its cost effective, it offers people something new and fun, you don't need to shell out $1500+ for a new TV (Again!) and you'll be guaranteed great first and second party support for years to come, not to mention the HD systems are and will be riddled with inexcusable load times.

Sony's not going to fare well after the initial launch craze on this new system if they expect normal people to spend this much for a toy and the edition of Blu-Ray is null and void at this point as the HD industry has captured maybe 5% of the industry at best. It's going to be tough for them. And for god sake's replace that fucking Dual shock already, at least switch the D-pad and left analog stick positions its been long enough!

And stop ripping off other companies hard work you assholes! :angry:

[Daniel Thomas]

Yeah, excuse me while I sell off one of my yachts so I can buy a PS3.

I don't bloody care if Playstation 3 proves the existence of God, cures cancer, and gets me married to a supermodel with guaranteed orgasms on the hour, every hour. It's six hundred fucking dollars and it's a machine that plays games.

:evil: :P LOL 8-)

If I was at E3, I'd be busy putting that onto t-shirts and selling them outside the door. I'd make a killing.

[Julio III]

That was such a boring press conference. Nothing exciting at all, none of the games interested me.

Oh wow, PSP as a wing mirror, wait a second, i saw 2 wing mirrors on the actual screen as part of the car, which didn't seem to be reflecting. Since you're in 1080p, just look at the damn screen.

Sure, some of the graphics for games looked nice but none of the games made me want to play them at all. Only interesting thing was the EyeToy card game which I personally am not interested in but can see taking off among the kids.

The big surprise at the end. Oh, very knee-jerk Sony. They were trying to rub it in to Nintendo "revolutionary with the familiar controller design" but your controller still is horrible in the first place, its such a mess of features that have been tacked on and dont quite work as well as the originals Sony copied. I still feel 2 shoulder buttons is uncomfortable and seems to just one-up the SNES and they still haven't got analogue triggers, sigh. The sticks (well the left one) is still in the wrong place. 6 degrees of freedom, i'm thinking rotation about each axis and acceleration along each axis? Its not quite move how you want Wii stylee but for holding with 2 hands will do everything you want depending on sensitivity and range. No rumble though, hmm, thats a shame.

Price point - if you think its expensive in America, well, its even more so in Europe- still 500 but in Euros, a quick conversion gives this as $635, so, Europeans pay an extra $135. Ouch! What with Sony saying all games will be region free makes it cheaper to import the damn thing! At least its out on the same day.

Well, Sony are going for best of all worlds - HD, graphics, motion sensing and in addition blu-ray. In the end it all adds up to a hefty price. Can you get both a Wii and a 360 for that price and end up happier?

[KJN]

Sweet! Looking at this picture (http://media.ds.ign.com/articles/705/705670/img_3578021.html) from Atlus booth it looks like they are going to release Osawari Tantei: Osawa Rina as Touch Detective in the US. It's a point and click adventure with a really nice art style.
http://www.n-games.de/ds/Screens/331/original/331-8.jpg http://www.n-games.de/ds/Screens/331/original/331-9.jpg

[THATinkjar]

Julio III: I agree. I had a scan through all of the E3 news this morning before work, and the first day seemed really dull. The PlayStation 3 doesn't inspire me to play games. There is no love. Bring on Day 2!


Sweet! Looking at this picture (http://media.ds.ign.com/articles/705/705670/img_3578021.html) from Atlus booth it looks like they are going to release Osawari Tantei: Osawa Rina as Touch Detective in the US. It's a point and click adventure with a really nice art style.

I'm so excited about this :D Well done Atlus for bringing yet another Jap game over here :)

[FantasiaWHT]

Oh MAN I need to get a job at EB again...

Do you have ANY FREAKING IDEA how much the replacement plans are going to cost on a PS3? And how easy it would be to talk somebody into one? And do you know the commission the salespeople get on the replacement plans?

Man I could buy myself 3 PS3's with the commissions I'd make hehe. Or way better yet, 9 Revolutions!

[Roi]

Phil Harrison has criticised Microsoft for planning to put two versions of the new Xbox 360 console on the market, claiming the decision will merely "create confusion" for consumers.
-GDC, March

[Darren870]

Oh MAN I need to get a job at EB again...

Do you have ANY FREAKING IDEA how much the replacement plans are going to cost on a PS3? And how easy it would be to talk somebody into one? And do you know the commission the salespeople get on the replacement plans?

Man I could buy myself 3 PS3's with the commissions I'd make hehe. Or way better yet, 9 Revolutions!

When we merged with gamestop they took all the commission oppertunities away. Lead to a lot of EB employees quiting, yesterday was my last day.

[cyberfluxor]

Oh MAN I need to get a job at EB again...

Do you have ANY FREAKING IDEA how much the replacement plans are going to cost on a PS3? And how easy it would be to talk somebody into one? And do you know the commission the salespeople get on the replacement plans?

Man I could buy myself 3 PS3's with the commissions I'd make hehe. Or way better yet, 9 Revolutions!

When we merged with gamestop they took all the commission oppertunities away. Lead to a lot of EB employees quiting, yesterday was my last day.

Never worked at any of those places, but that sure does sound pretty gay. A friend of mine use to work at a Radio Shack (And pretty much hated it when he got a new manager after 2yrs) and they were getting commission on everything. Then just around the time he quit they decided to go with $10/hr nationwide, or in certain locations with no commission. That was also they time they dropped Verizon so they got double screwed. Commission gave them quite a bit more than just the $10/hr (especially around Chrismas) so ya, sucks for some of them!

[diskoboy]

Oh wow... Just as I predicted - $500 minimum. God I hate it when I'm right! LOL

Sony just shot themselves in the foot.

Maybe if they did a little research, they'll find that no console over $400 has ever been successful. (Neo-Geo and 3DO ring any bells?) I'm not paying the extra $200 for a proprietery format that wont last (look at Sonys laundry list of failures - Beta, Memory Stick, Micro DV videocassetes...)

Plus blatantly copying Nintendo?? Sorry, Sony.

Yeah... I see the 360 winning this cycle. Wii a close second. The PS3's won't start selling until the prices are comparable to the 360 (unless you're an idiot who has money to just throw away). And even then, Microsoft will just lower the 360 prices.

[DonMarco]

Do you have ANY FREAKING IDEA how much the replacement plans are going to cost on a PS3? And how easy it would be to talk somebody into one? And do you know the commission the salespeople get on the replacement plans?

Man I could buy myself 3 PS3's with the commissions I'd make hehe. Or way better yet, 9 Revolutions!
When we merged with gamestop they took all the commission oppertunities away. Lead to a lot of EB employees quiting, yesterday was my last day.
Yep, I miss warranty bucks, too. Especially around Christmas, there would be an extra $200 or so if you did well. System launches also were a gold mine. But they only come 2-3 times a year, if that.

[Darren870]

Yep, I miss warranty bucks, too. Especially around Christmas, there would be an extra $200 or so if you did well. System launches also were a gold mine. But they only come 2-3 times a year, if that.

When the they had given us money for GPG's, Magazine Subs, Warrenties and Disc Doctors, i was bringing home more then what I was making from just standard salary.

Id average $450+ bi weekly just in "commision", not even around holidays.

Though I did work at the #6 EB in the nation in terms of sales...

[Jibbajaba]

Salary.

Chris

[80sGamer]

looks like Mario will be called
Super Mario Galaxy

[hezeuschrist]

Holy christ, the DS is going to continue to dominate. I was questioning how they could continue the stream of amazing titles... but.

StarFox DS
Yoshi's Island 2
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: March of the Mini's
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

Now they need some more original titles.

[THATinkjar]

It seems awfully convenient for Microsoft to force an MSN Messenger update on everyone, from a really slow, overloaded server, at just the time Nintendo's conference is taking place.

I wanna talk about this with my friends!

[Julio III]

Well, the start of the Nintendo conference was amazing, such a show, but as it went on, I was thinking, well...

Shigsy came out and was conducting a virtual orchestra to the Zelda theme, awesome!

Few new DS game sequals to old Nintendo franchises: Yoshi's Island 2, Starfox DS, Mario vs Donkey Kong DS, Diddy Kong Racing, oh, and a new Ouendan for the west called Elite Beat Agents or something.
Personally I wasn't impressed with the 1st party DS games but then the only update to a classic Nintendo franchise i've bought so far is Tetris. For sure they'll be some great 3rd party DS games in the show

Wii games - Tennis, Golf, Zelda (for launch day), Red Steel, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Excite Truck

After all the footage only Wii game so far that I'm particularly interested in is WarioWare, but they only showed snippets of that. Didn't show much for their other games which they just showed the player playing on video, ie. drums, conducting etc.

The final feature of the Wii controller is that is has an inbuilt speaker. I was hoping they'd show more details of the Wii - pricing, release, stuff about the controller "shells" which they haven't mentioned in ages.

3rd party stuff could be brilliant - oh, the quick glimpse of Sonic was good

[GrandAmChandler]

This just in.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg

From Nintendo of Japan's website:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/controller.html

Thanks to JJNova for finding this!

[Rev. Link]

Can anyone read Japanese? Do we know if that's for real, or just a mock up? Will it use the motion sensors? Etc.

By the way, I just watched the video for Red Steel. That looks like it's gonna be fun!

[Xexyz]

Super paper Mario (GCN) is looking pretty sweet. It lookseven incorporate some of the ideas implimented in NSMB (I.E. super size power up).

I like what I've seen so far from Nintendo. Basically a bunch of new updates to their classic franchises, but most of them look good so far. I'm definately excited about Yoshi's Island 2 and Star Fox DS. And Excite Truck for the Wii looks bad ass! It looks like an arcade style racer, which is my kind of racing game.

[GrandAmChandler]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/gc/index.html


More from Japan!

Super Paper Mario

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/gc/img_index/02_ss.jpg

DK Bongo Blast!

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/gc/img_index/01_ss.jpg

Thanks Hydr0x!

[diskoboy]

Lumines Live is coming to Xbox Live Arcade!!

http://pc.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/lumines-live-to-hit-xbox-live-arcade/

[pacmanhat]

Lumines Live is coming to Xbox Live Arcade!!

http://pc.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/lumines-live-to-hit-xbox-live-arcade/

Sweeeet...

Also, GTA4 is exclusive to Xbox 360! Oh how I love to see Sony getting one-upped...

[Rev. Link]

GTA as in Grand Theft Auto? Wow, that's huge for MS.

One thing really bugs me about that, though. Why call it GTA4 when there have been like 4 or 5 GTA games released since GTA3 already?

EDIT: Wait a minute, this is according to IGN: "On October 16th 2007 Grand Theft Auto 4 will be available on Xbox 360. There was no mention of an exclusive to 360."

So, is it exclusive or not?

[njiska]

Lumines Live is coming to Xbox Live Arcade!!

http://pc.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/lumines-live-to-hit-xbox-live-arcade/

Sweeeet...

Also, GTA4 is exclusive to Xbox 360! Oh how I love to see Sony getting one-upped...

No mention of exclusivity, only that Rockstar's episodic content would be exclusive.

[GrandAmChandler]

12:21: Moore whips out Xbox 360 HD-DVD peripheral--it looks like a mini Xbox 360 with a black front. The name is "Xbox 360 Player" and it will be available this holiday season.12:22: "Major announcement about one of greatest franchsies of all time." Says its so exciting that he has to take his shirt off. Shows Halo 2 tatto--GRAND THEFT AUTO IV tatoo on other arm. Grand Theft Auto IV October 16 2007 to Xbox 360 ONLY.

[heybtbm]

Microsoft: Halo 3, GTA4
Nintendo: more Wii goodness
Sony: consumer friendly $600 PS3.

This has to be Sony's worst E3 beating ever.

[pacmanhat]

Hmm...conflicting reports I guess. In any case, getting the first release of GTA4, even if it isn't exclusive, is HUGE.

[GrandAmChandler]

12:54: I get the official Rockstar Games announcement of Grand Theft Auto IV in my e-mail--it says that the game will be release simultaneously on Xbox 360 and PS3. Moore said it was coming to 360 first. What the...?

[Jasoco]

I WANT SUPER PAPER MARIO!!!

[Rev. Link]

Hey, here's some good news. Don't know if this has been talked about already, but it sure made me happy!

According to IGN's video piece on the game, Guitar Hero II will have a new practice mode, where you can choose to practice specific parts of a song. You can even loop it or slow it down!

Now that's an improvement. A good practice mode was exactly what I thought was missing from the first Guitar Hero.

[Half Cab Leroy]

Hey, here's some good news. Don't know if this has been talked about already, but it sure made me happy!

According to IGN's video piece on the game, Guitar Hero II will have a new practice mode, where you can choose to practice specific parts of a song. You can even loop it or slow it down!

Now that's an improvement. A good practice mode was exactly what I thought was missing from the first Guitar Hero.

Awesome. I always wanted a practice mode for the harder parts.

[Jasoco]

YOSHI'S ISLAND 2

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/05_yoshi/img/03.jpg

BABY PRINCESS!! LOL

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/05_yoshi/ss01.html

[Muscelli]

eh, ps3 looks amazing, and yeah 500 is a lot, but you gotta compare it to the 360 premium as well. for 100 dollars more, you get slightly better graphics, blu ray player, free online, tilt controller, and backwards compatability with ps2. Not too bad, but yeah, I get what u guys are saying..


360 looks like it is going to have some amazing games for it as well! GTA and Halo 3 both look like theyre gonna be awesome!

I saw the rev videos, and they are really underwhelming.. Am I the only one who is writing off the controller as a gimmick?

[Jasoco]

Yes. You are.


KIRBY!!!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/07_kirby/ss01.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/07_kirby/img/03.jpg

STAR FOX!!!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/01_starfox/ss01.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/01_starfox/img/09.jpg

ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS!!!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/04_zelda/ss01.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/04_zelda/img/08.jpg


And get this....

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/gc/02_papermario/img/04.jpg

[hezeuschrist]

Microsoft is staying the course, and thats a good thing. As long as they tread lightly they're definitely poised to steal a large portion of marketshare from Sony. At least in the US and Europe.

Halo 3, Gears of War, to be expected. Grand Theft Auto IV is unexpected, but not suprising. I wonder how big that'll really end up being as I felt the entire concept was just tired after Vice City.

I still don't know if I'm onboard for this whole web-cam console thing. It just seems premature, like until the TV's themselves have these items built in it's just a worthless and likely unused feature. The EyeToy certainly hasn't captured a large amount of support. Too many wires as well.

Only thing I'm disappoitned I haven't seen yet is a closeup of the guts of the Wii sensors that have to be placed on or about the TV. Hopefully we'll get some details in the early moments tomorrow.

[GrandAmChandler]

Halo 3 Trailer up:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85284

[Jasoco]

Only thing I'm disappoitned I haven't seen yet is a closeup of the guts of the Wii sensors that have to be placed on or about the TV. Hopefully we'll get some details in the early moments tomorrow.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/controller.html

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_sensor.jpg

[hezeuschrist]

Still very small though, I want more detail. But from the looks of that, it seems to be very non-invasive. It's gonna suck having two cables running to the TV though.

[Rev. Link]

eh, ps3 looks amazing, and yeah 500 is a lot, but you gotta compare it to the 360 premium as well. for 100 dollars more, you get slightly better graphics, blu ray player, free online, tilt controller, and backwards compatability with ps2. Not too bad, but yeah, I get what u guys are saying..


360 looks like it is going to have some amazing games for it as well! GTA and Halo 3 both look like theyre gonna be awesome!

I saw the rev videos, and they are really underwhelming.. Am I the only one who is writing off the controller as a gimmick?

Just don't forget that the $500 PS3 doesn't include a lot of things. No wireless controllers, no wifi, no hdmi output, and 40 gigs less in hd space. Buying the $500 version, especially if you're interested in it as a blu-ray player, is simply a waste. It's no different from the 360 core package. Anyone who seriously wants a PS3 and wants to make use of all of its features will have to buy the $600 version.

And yes, you're probably the only person left at this point writing off the Wii controller as a gimmick. Have you seen the Red Steel video yet?

[Darren870]

Wii - $250 says EGM


HERE (http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/05/09/egm-spillin-wii-beans-new-details/)

[Rev. Link]

I'll wait to hear from a source more reliable than 4 Color Rebellion. Personally, I'm guessing it'll be lower than $250.

[THATinkjar]

Thanks for posting links to those DS videos - I am super excited! I just watched a Hi Def Super Mario Galaxy trailer... like, I can't wait! And Super Paper Mario :D :D Nintendo have stolen the show, and it is only day two :)

[Muscelli]

eh, ps3 looks amazing, and yeah 500 is a lot, but you gotta compare it to the 360 premium as well. for 100 dollars more, you get slightly better graphics, blu ray player, free online, tilt controller, and backwards compatability with ps2. Not too bad, but yeah, I get what u guys are saying..


360 looks like it is going to have some amazing games for it as well! GTA and Halo 3 both look like theyre gonna be awesome!

I saw the rev videos, and they are really underwhelming.. Am I the only one who is writing off the controller as a gimmick?

Just don't forget that the $500 PS3 doesn't include a lot of things. No wireless controllers, no wifi, no hdmi output, and 40 gigs less in hd space. Buying the $500 version, especially if you're interested in it as a blu-ray player, is simply a waste. It's no different from the 360 core package. Anyone who seriously wants a PS3 and wants to make use of all of its features will have to buy the $600 version.

And yes, you're probably the only person left at this point writing off the Wii controller as a gimmick. Have you seen the Red Steel video yet?

ouch, no wireless controller no wifi? 600 is pretty insane for a game console, I must admit, but I guess its the only way to get the whole deal.. anyone know if there will be demos on demand like on XBL?

And yea, i saw the videos, but dont see how the controller does anything revolutionary or innovative, or opens up any new gameplay experiences.. I dont see the fun in flicking the controller to make mario jump, or tilting the controller up or down to point it at different parts of the screen.. Thats just me though

[Rev. Link]

Okay, the way I see it is like this. Remember Doom back in the day? Doom was awesome, everyone loved it. Good stuff. Then came Quake. Full 3D, using the mouse to look around, aim, etc.

Imagine all console FPS titles to date are Doom. Imagine FPS games that use the Wii controller are Quake. That's the potential at hand here.

[hezeuschrist]

And yea, i saw the videos, but dont see how the controller does anything revolutionary or innovative, or opens up any new gameplay experiences.. I dont see the fun in flicking the controller to make mario jump, or tilting the controller up or down to point it at different parts of the screen.. Thats just me though

Book by the cover and all that. Try it out, when Iwata, Reggie, Miyamoto, and the contest winner were playing Tennis on stage that instantly sold me on Wii Sports. It looks like an absolute blast. Red Steel looks freakin amazing too, more for the swordfighting than the gunplay.

You've gotta try it. It may not look like much, but using your offhand to push forward to use a shield bash to stun an enemy in Zelda will be second nature in no time, and it'll be far, far more immersive than pushing a button ever has been.

Beyond that, you've obviously got some kind of bias. You're listing the tilt controller of the PS3 as being a jutification to the system costing more than any mainstream console ever, but you're writing the Wii off as a gimmick? How is it not going to open up new gameplay expereinces? How is swinging a controller as a sword not a new gameplay mechanic? How is using the controller as the handle to a racquet not a new gameplay mechanic? These things have been done in very poor fashion before, and the videos today proove that it's being done in very excellent fashion now.

You've really got to reserve judgement for the gimmick portion of the console until you get your hands on it.


I'll wait to hear from a source more reliable than 4 Color Rebellion. Personally, I'm guessing it'll be lower than $250.

I believe it. Whoever the white guy on stage today was has said many times, they're aiming to come in at a "Slightly more mass market price than the competition." The Competitions lowest price is $300, so $250 seems right.

[NE146]

Maybe if they did a little research, they'll find that no console over $400 has ever been successful. (Neo-Geo and 3DO ring any bells?)

I only know the "PS3DO" :P

[cyberfluxor]

Damn this thread is moving fast... I think it's becomming a time comsumer to keep up with all the posting.

Once again though, incase people missed my initial post on here, if anyone knows some new information about Supreme Commander or Unreal Turnament 2007 be sure to let me and others know. Thanks!

[Rev. Link]

You think this is fast? Considering that this is E3, I'd say this thread is moving at a crawl.

[joshnickerson]

Anybody have a link to a video of the Nintendo press event? I missed it. :(

[Jasoco]

If you think this is fast, you have never seen NeoGAF.

[Rev. Link]

Wow, IGN's starting to get a lot of cool videos of Wii games. And of course games for the other systems too.

http://www.ign.com/e3/2006/

Man, all I can say is, I'd sure like to play Wario Wario with a bunch of cute Japanese girls. ^^;

[MegaDrive20XX]

Nintendo has re-invented fun again...after watching Iwata and Miyamoto play Tennis on the Wii. It reminded me of the same fun we had when NES was introduced. Simply brilliant, I felt Nintendo stole the show already within a single hour. Super Mario Galaxy was just so gorgeous...

[Famidrive-16]

Take a look at Hotel Dusk for the DS:

http://e3src.nintendo.com/games/ds/hotel_dusk_room_215/

[Schenley]

Anyone watching this crap E3 on G4? Good thing I'm tivo'ing it.

Here's a breakdown:
25% self promotion
40% commercials
25% useless drivel
10% actual content I want to see

That new chick (whom I haven't seen before tonight, looks awful in that dress. And this Zak dude is downright annoying.

Also, I wasn't too impressed with the Halo3 trailer... Looks like a lot more of the same crap - albeit better looking crap.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Anyone watching this crap E3 on G4? Good thing I'm tivo'ing it.

Here's a breakdown:
25% self promotion
40% commercials
25% useless drivel
10% actual content I want to see

That new chick (whom I haven't seen before tonight, looks awful in that dress. And this Zak dude is downright annoying.



Did you notice the girl in the red dress with the British accent wasn't wearing a bra? Must be Cold in that studio ;)

Self-promotions= hurting for ratings pretty much

[Famidrive-16]

I've been watching it. Some of the videos haven't worked on my computer so I've seen them on this show.

And holy moley, does Filter looks horrid now.

[Rev. Link]

Hotel Dusk looks like it'll be potentially really great. But I think out of all the DS games, I might be most excited about Star Fox!

[djbeatmongrel]

i have to say i am pleased with this so far:
the Wii looks awesom and will be a must buy.
the ds titles are to die for.
guitar hero II is going to be THE SHIT for 2006
Culdcept Saga for the xb360 is definitely going to push me towards microsoft finally.

my only dissappointment is with sony. wtf are they thinking with the price point

[Rev. Link]

guitar hero II is going to be THE SHIT for 2006

Damn straight! Has a full track listing been released yet? I want Aerosmith!

[djbeatmongrel]

guitar hero II is going to be THE SHIT for 2006

Damn straight! Has a full track listing been released yet? I want Aerosmith!

no but reverend horton heat "psychobilly freakout" is going to be on it. so its already going to be awesome

[Muscelli]

And yea, i saw the videos, but dont see how the controller does anything revolutionary or innovative, or opens up any new gameplay experiences.. I dont see the fun in flicking the controller to make mario jump, or tilting the controller up or down to point it at different parts of the screen.. Thats just me though

Book by the cover and all that. Try it out, when Iwata, Reggie, Miyamoto, and the contest winner were playing Tennis on stage that instantly sold me on Wii Sports. It looks like an absolute blast. Red Steel looks freakin amazing too, more for the swordfighting than the gunplay.

You've gotta try it. It may not look like much, but using your offhand to push forward to use a shield bash to stun an enemy in Zelda will be second nature in no time, and it'll be far, far more immersive than pushing a button ever has been.

Beyond that, you've obviously got some kind of bias. You're listing the tilt controller of the PS3 as being a jutification to the system costing more than any mainstream console ever, but you're writing the Wii off as a gimmick? How is it not going to open up new gameplay expereinces? How is swinging a controller as a sword not a new gameplay mechanic? How is using the controller as the handle to a racquet not a new gameplay mechanic? These things have been done in very poor fashion before, and the videos today proove that it's being done in very excellent fashion now.

You've really got to reserve judgement for the gimmick portion of the console until you get your hands on it.


I'll wait to hear from a source more reliable than 4 Color Rebellion. Personally, I'm guessing it'll be lower than $250.

I believe it. Whoever the white guy on stage today was has said many times, they're aiming to come in at a "Slightly more mass market price than the competition." The Competitions lowest price is $300, so $250 seems right.

True that, I have not tired it, but I am not completely blown away by the videos by any means. I may try it out at gamestop once the demo stations come in, and come to love it and enjoy it, or I may not.. right now, I am just saying it has the looks of a gimmick to me. I have yet to try it, so I should reserve my judgement until I get the chance to try it out.

As far as PS3 goes, features are welcome to me, even if they are small ones (like the tilt on the controllers).. I was just comparing it to the xbox360 up there, and not the wii. I can't really compare it to the wii, seeing as it is in its whole different area, where nintendo is focousing its console as to how its played, rather on graphical polish. As far as that goes, it sounds like wii has the dominant controller, no doubt about it :) But yeah, dont get me wrong, all three are very interesting.. I have yet to play with the wii, so I should withhold my judgement before writing it off as a gimmick

[dan2357]

DAM DAM DAM......
So now I have to buy a Wii right away for zelda. Sure I could buy it for the cube, but why????
Was happy to see component option on it, now atleast I dont have to hunt down a cabel for my cube anymore.

[badinsults]

Yoshi's Island 2? A platformer based on Paper Mario? Man, this is a good year to be a gamer.

[Rev. Link]

Whoa! I didn't realize that Super Paper Mario is a platformer! Kick ass!

[hezeuschrist]

Yoshi's Island 2? A platformer based on Paper Mario? Man, this is a good year to be a gamer.

Understatement of the show.

It's overwhelming. I can't believe right now that I'm ACTUALLY interested in a PS3, knowing full well I'll have to actually save for it. Put aside money from a month or two out of launch every week to a PS3 fund. That's absurd and not even including games. I'd definitely want warhawk, I loved the original way back when. I'd also probably want Heavenly Sword and maybe a few others.

The Wii likely will cost $250, and there are already 5 confirmed launch titles I MUST have: WarioWare, WiiSports, Dragon Quest, FF:CC, and obviously Zelda. If Metroid makes launch, add that. Wait, make it six, Red Steel as well. Toss on at least one more Wiimote for some multiplayer and a chunk down for an SD memory stick and I'm looking at a $700 Wii launch right along side an at least $700 PS3 launch.

Not to mention the absolute explosion of amazing titles announced for the DS that will inevitably be hitting right around the holidays as well.

There's too much. I still have 300 games or so sitting in my house right now that I want to play... so little time. And what do I do in my free time at work? Look at Ebay. I'm an idiot.

[Rev. Link]

There's too much. I still have 300 games or so sitting in my house right now that I want to play... so little time. And what do I do in my free time at work? Look at Ebay. I'm an idiot.

LOL, I'm right there with you, man.

Not to add to the problem, but isn't there supposed to be a new Super Smash Bros. for Wii at launch?

EDIT: This just in: Holy crud! Activision is buying Red Octane!

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/706/706632p1.html

[YoshiM]

Anyone watching this crap E3 on G4? Good thing I'm tivo'ing it.

Here's a breakdown:
25% self promotion
40% commercials
25% useless drivel
10% actual content I want to see

That new chick (whom I haven't seen before tonight, looks awful in that dress. And this Zak dude is downright annoying.

Also, I wasn't too impressed with the Halo3 trailer... Looks like a lot more of the same crap - albeit better looking crap.

I Tivo'd it too. Kinda had some elevated hopes at a decent showing but alas was let down way more than I anticipated. . I loathed the little "joke" spots (history of E3, for example) and "The Feed" was just dumb. The babe didn't do much for that spot as she looked....overinflated and happy to be on TV. So happy you could hang a hat.

I pretty much fast-forwarded through a lot of it. There seemed to be a LOT of PS3 stuff, followed by 360 stuff. Felt somewhat unbalanced. At least they showed the Red Steel demo for the Wii.

As for the Halo 3 trailer, it didn't do anything for me. I like Halo a lot, Halo 2 was kinda disappointing (single player-I wasn't much into multiplay) so I don't have big expectations for 3. Seemed kinda cobbled together, especially since Bungie said they weren't working on that game (though who says they were telling the truth...)

[kainemaxwell]

Was at the Nintendo Center today when they made their Wii and DS announcements. I'm definitly more inclinded to get one or both now!

[DDCecil]

Dragon Quest Swords = An updated Kenshin Dragon Quest to be used with the Wii controller as a sword? Oh my god... I can't wait! Plus all the new 2D Mario games and Galaxy... Awesome. 8-)

[zerohero]

All I have to say is RED STEEL........ and I can't wait for a new Bushido Blade game now.

[Tamashii Sensei]

Nintendo and, to a lesser extent, Microsoft, made the pre-show days of E3 for me. The amount of games revealed for the Wii, DS, GameCube, and Xbox 360 -- and the amount of those that really looked spectacular -- was truly overwhelming at times for me. I mean, a new Mario 3D platformer for the Wii and a new Mario side-scroller for the GameCube? A racing game for the Wii that seems to capture the spirit of Excitebike... only with trucks in place of bikes? Yoshi's Island 2 and Starfox for the DS? Halo 3, Grand Theft Auto IV, Fable 2, etc. for Xbox 360? My, oh my, what a (pre-)show.

As for Sony, they can go **** themselves. Seriously, they have no shame whatsoever in attempting to one-up Nintendo (all they did in the process was make themselves look like a bunch of scum), and I certainly won't be dishing out $600+ at launch for their console. If I ever get a PlayStation 3, it likely won't be until after it's seen a price drop (or three).

[NoahsMyBro]

I just had a bad thought about the Wii controller. Hopefully I'm wrong.

If I recall correctly, and it's been a long time, the 5200 controllers seemed amazing, and fantastic, pre-release. The, once they came out, many didn't like them, and they proved to be less reliable than a Fiat Spyder.

Now, obviously we can't know anything until we get our hands on the system and play it ourselves, but I certainly hope the Wii controllers aren't prone to failure.

[Rev. Link]

I don't think we have to worry about that too much. There's a big difference between what Atari was back than and what Nintendo is now.

[diskoboy]

And now for something completely different (not Wii related)...

Why the hell has it been so quiet on the Gears of War front? Haven't heard a thing except for the trailer I downloaded today.

God... My 360 HD is getting a serious workout.

[hezeuschrist]

And now for something completely different (not Wii related)...

Why the hell has it been so quiet on the Gears of War front? Haven't heard a thing except for the trailer I downloaded today.

God... My 360 HD is getting a serious workout.

They can show us all the footage they want, but we all know what the game is about now and we all know how gorgeous it's going to look. The only thing left to do is release the game, so until we get a date there really isn't much to say that hasn't been said.

It better be playable on the floor though, if it's not it'll give me serious doubts about it making it out this year.

[hezeuschrist]

I don't think we have to worry about that too much. There's a big difference between what Atari was back than and what Nintendo is now.

Not to mention Nintendo builds their hardware to take some serious beatings. With all their experience around making GameBoys childproof in every sense, I don't think they'll have any trouble making the Wiimotes bulletproof.

You better believe they realize these things will come flying out of hands at times.

[Lothars]

Yoshi's Island 2? A platformer based on Paper Mario? Man, this is a good year to be a gamer.

Understatement of the show.

It's overwhelming. I can't believe right now that I'm ACTUALLY interested in a PS3, knowing full well I'll have to actually save for it. Put aside money from a month or two out of launch every week to a PS3 fund. That's absurd and not even including games. I'd definitely want warhawk, I loved the original way back when. I'd also probably want Heavenly Sword and maybe a few others.

The Wii likely will cost $250, and there are already 5 confirmed launch titles I MUST have: WarioWare, WiiSports, Dragon Quest, FF:CC, and obviously Zelda. If Metroid makes launch, add that. Wait, make it six, Red Steel as well. Toss on at least one more Wiimote for some multiplayer and a chunk down for an SD memory stick and I'm looking at a $700 Wii launch right along side an at least $700 PS3 launch.

Not to mention the absolute explosion of amazing titles announced for the DS that will inevitably be hitting right around the holidays as well.

There's too much. I still have 300 games or so sitting in my house right now that I want to play... so little time. And what do I do in my free time at work? Look at Ebay. I'm an idiot.

hey I am in exactly the same thing as you

It's really scary lol how I am going to afford all these systems plus I still want to get an xbox 360

so it's just crazy

[NintenDk]

anyone have a link to the press conferences (nintendo's in specific) that don't require a membership site?

[hezeuschrist]

anyone have a link to the press conferences (nintendo's in specific) that don't require a membership site?

You can download the low-res feeds directly from GameSpot for free.

[Rev. Link]

anyone have a link to the press conferences (nintendo's in specific) that don't require a membership site?

I believe IGN has them as well.

[Jasoco]

Aside from the Wii in whole, the following is what I am most eager to learn more about...

Super Mario Galaxy

Super Paper Mario

Yoshi's Island 2

Zelda: Twilight Princess

Star Fox DS (SS don't seem to do it justice. I want to make sure there's no damn foot missions in this one.)

Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Also known as Wind Waker 2)

Can't wait to see all the videos and images over the next three days.


"Over the years I know you've heard a lot of Nintendo people say, 'We're all about the game.' Well guess what? We are. Whether you're talkin' about Donkey Kong or Tetris, Madden or Mario, Metal Gear or Resident Evil, he with the best games wins. Always been that way. Always will." -- Reginald Fils-Aime Nintendo Pre-E3 2004 Press Conference

[RegSNES]

Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.

[hezeuschrist]

Star Fox DS (SS don't seem to do it justice. I want to make sure there's no damn foot missions in this one.)

My faith in Nintendo's vision can only take me so far, and I fear this is beyond that border.

[Daniel Thomas]

Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

I still say $200. They could even take it down as low as $150 if they were really aggressive, but they're already in the driver's seat as price goes.

Nintendo is clearly out for the jugular, with all their big names coming out at once, and all looking very good. Three new Mario games - how can you beat that?

Videogames are going to be cool again!

[Anthony1]

Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

[RegSNES]

Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

Just hit up GameSpot. You can download stream their videos for free.

[THATinkjar]

Oh snaps!!! I saw videos of Super Mario Galaxy, Excitetruck, and other Wii games like Red Steel. Wii IS going to change the way we play games. When I saw videos of people using the Wii remote my jaw dropped. And it's $250? Sign me up NOW!!

As for the DS? System is gonna keep dishing out the pwnage. My word, I've got some saving to do.


Is there a link anywhere to a video of Super Mario Galaxy, for those that don't have a membership to anything?

Just hit up GameSpot. You can download stream their videos for free.

GameTrailers.com have a Hi Def version of the trailer. And it blew me away! I must have watched it a dozen times last night, back to back. I think it made the same impact as when I first saw Super Mario 64!

[petewhitley]

Nintendo is destined to trail Sony and Microsoft in market share. Graphics sell consoles. They might not sell portables (which are a lifesaver for parents to occupy kids), but they sell consoles. The videos for the Wii are so far behind the PS3 and 360 it isn't even fair. I'll buy one along with all you DP "gameplay over graphics" gamers, don't get me wrong. And it will be ALOT of fun. But don't kid yourselves and say it will be anything other than a 3rd place console with limited 3rd party support. If it had come along with a combination of this controller innovation AND comparable processing technology there might have been a shake up. Unfortunately it didn't. A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?). It doesn't take anything away from the potential for the Wii to be a classic, enjoyable system. But it's pretty silly to read all these posts proclaiming that Nintendo is going to dominate or even compete in the next-gen.

[GarrettCRW]

Graphics sell consoles.

The Atari Video Computer System.

The Nintendo Entertainment System.

The Sega Genesis.

The Sony PlayStation.

The PlayStation 2.

These systems had something very important in common: they outsold (or matched the sales of) their primary competition, all of which had better graphics. (For the record, those competitors were: Intellivision/Colecovision, Master System, Super NES, N64, and XBox/GameCube, respectively.)

[MarkMan]

Right now for me... the show is like this:

Nintendo Wii > XBOX 360 > PlayStation 3

The PS3 and 360 are both around the same for me. MS has very AMBITIOUS goals and have announced killer titles that are sure to get everyone O_O!? Fable 2, Halo 3, GTA IV(Also on PS3). That's some good shit to look forward to.

PS3 has Tekken which we all love. <3 ! Virtua Fighter 5, and the most exciting one to me so far... Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. But then they have that crazy price and hardware changes.

Wii on the other hand. 27 playable titles! WTF. If anyone saw the press conference... man the controller looks wonderful... the new mention of sound/speaker capability is very nice IMO. A new Mario title in Super Mario Galaxy... The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess Wii Edition with exclusive Wii content, Duck Hunt Wii, that Tennis game was nice, Red Steel, and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

For handhelds, I'm glad with both of them... PSP is bringing some major heat with the post MGS3 title and Silent Hill prequel in Origins... looking really good. TalkMan will be great once it gets over here. For DS though, I'm way more excited... Starfox DS, Lunar Knights DS(From Hideo Kojima) which is the new Boktai I believe..., Zelda: Phantom Hourglass and more... very exciting.

I'll reserve final judgement over the next few days as I'm sure my feelings will change. I'll be able to play the games more in depth and see how they are and how their potential is.

I'm excited as fuck. Only member of my group that is still awake. lol. 2 AM. I don't think I'll sleep.

[THATinkjar]

Whoa! I didn't realize that Super Paper Mario is a platformer! Kick ass!

That was, without a doubt, the biggest shock from yesterday (for me, anyway). I read a little about it after it hit the net, and then I downloaded the video. And just before I headed to bed, I took a quick gander. Boy, I really wasn’t expecting such an oddball platformer. This will be the freshest take on a Mario platformer, I reckon.

It is quite fantastic to see Nintendo taking a few risks with their beloved franchises. Yes, yes… I know – it is still a platformer at heart, but it is clearly going to be a little “off the wall”. And while Nintendo seem hell bent on revolutionizing the gaming industry (which they are slowly doing, in my opinion), they usually stick to a fairly tried and test formula for their powerhouse franchises. Super Paper Mario – perhaps more than Super Mario Galaxy – will defy the norm. I’m thinking Viewtiful Joe meets Super Smash Bros. Melee with a hint of New. Super Mario Bros. For some reason :)

I was also reading this morning, GameSpot’s hands-on impressions of the latest iteration of the Wii freestyle controller. You can read their impressions here (http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149724&pid=930752). Considering that I generally feel that GameSpot’s previews are fairly neutral – I thought the article sounded very positive.

Having kept up with everything Nintendo so far, one concern still remains. When Microsoft launched the Xbox 360, we saw a number of launch titles skimp a little on gameplay and content, at the expense of producing early next-gen Hi Def graphics. It worries me that some developers – probably third-party developers – will concentrate solely on recreating current-gen games, simply with a new control method. I don’t think that will be good enough.

While most gamers have come to terms with the fact that the Wii will be significantly less powerful than the Xbox 360 or the PlayStation 3, I think most people are expecting graphics (to begin with) on par with Resident Evil 4, which was easily the prettiest game of this generation. From the trailers I saw, I don’t think anything came close to these graphics. Which is a crying shame. Graphics aside, I certainly hope there is more than just a new way of controlling these games. I want to see more online enabled titles at launch, than not. The revolution is more than just a controller – I hope developers (and publishers) remember this.

As for the DS… I remember reading, possibly on 1up, that we could expect some pretty special offerings at E3. And boy – they weren’t wrong! I read on Eurogamer this morning that 100 DS titles are in-development, which is a pretty staggering number. This is very much the second wave of games for the DS, so I am expecting much higher quality across the board.

Just going through Nintendo’s announcements – I was astounded by what was on offer. All these games are due to hit the States before the end of the year, though dates are yet to be confirmed for most. I am actually expecting Nintendo to mix things up a little, and debut some of these titles in Europe ahead of the US. I finally think Nintendo are opening up to this CRAZY way of thinking, given that Europe is leading the US in terms of DS sales and popularity.

StarFox DS looks superb. It shows just how capable the machine is, much like Metroid Prime Hunters did recently. Games like these are raising the bar, and making it harder for third party developers to churn out – pardon my expression – shit. If this is online-enabled, which it surely will be, we’re in for a treat. Yoshi’s Island 2, which probably won’t live up to the original, should be good. It is a shame that they haven’t mentioned the new Wario Land title yet, but I am sure an announcement will follow shortly.

Turning my attention to Microsoft, finally… I haven’t watched their conference yet, but having heard that Lumines is heading to Live, and having realized that I have no interest whatsoever in the PlayStation 3, I have decided to buy an Xbox 360 this morning. Multiplayer Lumines across Live is worth it alone, I reckon. This was how I planned it to be. 360, Wii and DS for the win :)

Best. E3. Ever!

[THATinkjar]

and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

Have they spoken about Resident Evil for the Wii, yet? Shown any footage? Have I missed something? :(

[Julio III]

and the one that I'm most excited about, Resident Evil for the Wii. I'm loving the classic controller too.

Have they spoken about Resident Evil for the Wii, yet? Shown any footage? Have I missed something? :(

Its just on the list of Wii games thats been made available. Nothing shown as of yet.

Other thoughts:
Nintendo seem really to be reviving the 2D platformer, especially on the DS, what with 2 new Donkey Kong games, Yoshi's Island 2, Kirby etc, coupled with New Super Mario and Princess Peach. And then, surprised at Super Paper Mario, it looks so wierd, especially the equations littering the background.

New force feedback wheel for the 360 coupled with new Forza. The 360 is really looking home to great racing games now what with PGR3 but if only they got Outrun to run on it.

Elite Beat Agents - its like a sequal to Ouendan! Sign me up for this - i hope the songs are good and there are a variety of styles.

Hotel Dusk: Room 215 for DS - yes, finally more point n click adventures announced for the DS. I'm liking the holding the DS sideways as well, more games should utilise this

I read bout WarioWareWii and it looks pretty amazing. The only Wii game so far that i'm definitely getting. I've yet to take a proper look at the info for most of the games though

[Mr.FoodMonster]

EDIT: This just in: Holy crud! Activision is buying Red Octane!

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/706/706632p1.html
Well, atleast they wont run out of money, and that should allow them to get a lot more music rights, due to them being activision and all, not to mention much more money to go around. A very nice and unexpected announcement.

[FantasiaWHT]

Star Fox DS (SS don't seem to do it justice. I want to make sure there's no damn foot missions in this one.)

My faith in Nintendo's vision can only take me so far, and I fear this is beyond that border.

Yeah if Starfox on the DS has more than ONE walkaround level, I'm not buying it, period. Assault blew major chunks.

But holy Nintendo gaming gods! I need to start saving now... and I'm so glad that I'm going back to school in the fall (Law School) and will have 2 hours on a bus every day to play DS like crazy! hehehe.

And OH MAN!!! CULDCEPT IS GOING 360!?!? NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

grr....

That's about the only game I can get my wife to play with me with any regularity heh. I may for the first time in my life have to buy a system for one game and one game alone... I just hope that the translation is better this time around hehe.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Nintendo is destined to trail Sony and Microsoft in market share. Graphics sell consoles. They might not sell portables (which are a lifesaver for parents to occupy kids), but they sell consoles. The videos for the Wii are so far behind the PS3 and 360 it isn't even fair. I'll buy one along with all you DP "gameplay over graphics" gamers, don't get me wrong. And it will be ALOT of fun. But don't kid yourselves and say it will be anything other than a 3rd place console with limited 3rd party support. If it had come along with a combination of this controller innovation AND comparable processing technology there might have been a shake up. Unfortunately it didn't. A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?). It doesn't take anything away from the potential for the Wii to be a classic, enjoyable system. But it's pretty silly to read all these posts proclaiming that Nintendo is going to dominate or even compete in the next-gen.

Odd, I thought this post of yours was the most silly. :P

Seriously, each company has a strategy and has been drafting and refining it for awhile now. When the dust settles from this generation's scuffle it will be quite clear who sold what and whom thumped whom. I'm fairly confident that Nintendo won't find themself on the bottom this go 'round though. Not after what we've all seen of the Wii. I'm not saying Sony is out of the race either, just that they won't find placing top to be a given. This time they're (MS, Sony and/or Nintendo) gonna have to earn it.

[Griking]

Graphics sell consoles.

Maybe to you but graphics aren't what I base my console purchases on.


A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?).

Honestly, I think that $499/$599 is way out of reach of an average gamer. Keep in mind that many consoles are purchased by parents for their kids. I'm sorry but most moms and dads just aren't going to fork over $600 (plus another $60 for a game) for a video game system at a time gas when gas and oil prices are at an all time high.

[ClubNinja]

I haven't been paying close enough attention, but is there a Wii release date out there yet?

[segagamer4life]

NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

[swlovinist]

Nintendo Wii > XBOX 360 > PlayStation 3


Holy crap Nintendo for me has really gone out and showed that it means business. Not only are they showing very quality games, they are making people like me want to buy Nintendo products again. Also, Super Paper Mario and Zelda for the Gamecube look to be fantastic. The DS by far is having a great show, with a new Mario game that looks to rock. I have been downloading all the E3 trailers on my 360, most of which do not show any gameplay. Pinata looks interesting, but overall I did not see alot of products remotely near release. The PS3 as I have said before is going to loose at least one customer due to price...me. I dont care if the dam thing can even do my teacher homework...$500 is way too much money.

[Slate]

NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg





http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

:image:

..Back to the Nintendo subject, Nintendo really has it going now, They're earning my respect for them back, When i played World Class Track Meet on the NES it was fun, and the wii looks just like that - Fun.

Nintendo is really making a comeback here (For me anyway) Since there are so many Must buy titles, for the DS, GBA, Wii, and gamecube! (I know there wasn't anything big said on the gamecube or GBA, but i'm behind in that area, so that counts for me)

I WILL preorder a wii. And with these DS titles coming out, they may just make me buy a DS lite!

Man, it's time to get ready to buy over $1,000 worth of new games this year - Nintendo Wii system, wii games, DS Lite, DS games, Xbox 360, 360 games, and accessories..

[kainemaxwell]

I'm definitly recording the E3 show on G4 tonight.

[GrandAmChandler]

Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.

[Schenley]

I'm definitly recording the E3 show on G4 tonight.Get ready to fast forward!

[Richter]

Opera confirmed that the Wii will also get its browser
http://opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/05/10/

--

Konami, Midway, Namco classics on XBLA

--

about GTA4 on the 360: In October 2007, "Grand Theft Auto IV" will launch for the Xbox, with exclusive add-on content available on Xbox Live.. There's your exclusive

[Tamashii Sensei]

Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.

Awesome! I can't wait to read some hands-on impressions for this, as well as view any and all possible media I can find.

[koster]

Opera? Cool.

As one who has never pre-ordered a console, I'm severely tempted to pre-order a Wii.

If Nintendo puts together any sort of system launch bundle, I'm definitely there; if not, I'm still inclined to pick one up, if only to make one less system available to the Ebay crowd. :)

Any mention at E3 of requirement(s) for DVD playback on the Wii?

[segagamer4life]

NEW METAL GEAR FOR PSP.... HOLY CRAP....

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081009518.jpg





http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959503.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509080959925.jpg


http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/706/706762/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-20060509081000409.jpg

:image:

..Back to the Nintendo subject, Nintendo really has it going now, They're earning my respect for them back, When i played World Class Track Meet on the NES it was fun, and the wii looks just like that - Fun.

Nintendo is really making a comeback here (For me anyway) Since there are so many Must buy titles, for the DS, GBA, Wii, and gamecube! (I know there wasn't anything big said on the gamecube or GBA, but i'm behind in that area, so that counts for me)

I WILL preorder a wii. And with these DS titles coming out, they may just make me buy a DS lite!

Man, it's time to get ready to buy over $1,000 worth of new games this year - Nintendo Wii system, wii games, DS Lite, DS games, Xbox 360, 360 games, and accessories..


is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

[THATinkjar]

Pro Evolution Soccer on DS screenshots (http://ds-x2.customer.attikh.net/index.php?id=5230)

Tomb Raider Legend on DS screenshots (http://ds-x2.customer.attikh.net/index.php?id=5233)

And... I found this on Infendo. Head to Nintendo's E3 press site (http://press.nintendo.com/), and use the following login...

Username: media
Password: E32006

The videos available are zipped, and are much larger than what I had downloaded from Nintendo last night (which means they could be higher resolution :)). Enjoy.

Oh, and I watched the Death Jr (on DS) trailer and I was pretty impressed. Maybe this could be a good title after all.

[Darren870]

is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

Because it requires you to be logged into IGN to view them

[Rev. Link]

New Duck Hunt? Cool! But only if I can blow away that damn dog this time! :evil:

Did you all read that in Phantom Hourglass, everything will be stylus controlled? You point where you want Link to go, he goes there. You tap an enemy, he attacks it. You tap a box, he lifts it.

I don't know if I like the sound of that. But it's Zelda, so I know I'll still be getting it.

[Hypnotuba]

Whoa! I didn't realize that Super Paper Mario is a platformer! Kick ass!

That was, without a doubt, the biggest shock from yesterday (for me, anyway).


Me too! I was hoping there'd be a surprise Gamecube game, and that certainly fit the bill. At least I'd never heard anything about it before. It doesn't seem like just some throwaway, the Gamecube is dead kind of game, either. At any other E3, it'd probably have been a pretty big deal. I'm looking forward to this greatly.

Plus, that DK bongo racing game could be fun, too.

Two surprise Gamecube games, hooray! :-P

[petewhitley]

Graphics sell consoles.

Maybe to you but graphics aren't what I base my console purchases on.

Not to me either. But you and I and the rest of the DP community are not the average gamer. The average gamer who consistently demands the shiniest, prettiest Madden update. And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years. Nintendo isn't going to change that, particularly in one generation. Keep dreaming of saving your Princess.



A $499/$599 PS3 price point is a shock, but it's not out of reach to the average video game consumer (you bought a computer didn't you?).

Honestly, I think that $499/$599 is way out of reach of an average gamer. Keep in mind that many consoles are purchased by parents for their kids. I'm sorry but most moms and dads just aren't going to fork over $600 (plus another $60 for a game) for a video game system at a time gas when gas and oil prices are at an all time high.

I guess we'll have to see. I for one don't believe that video game consoles are intrinsically so different from other consumer home electronics that they must be sold at lower price points. Americans can and do afford $600 entertainment expenses on a regular basis. I would think the PS3 fits nicely in that niche.

[THATinkjar]

For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg

[FantasiaWHT]

And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years.

Uh, no, console sales have been driven by games and price for 20-some years. Otherwise how do you explain that the best selling consoles have NEVER been the most powerful? Oh processing power moves the market FORWARD, but it doesn't make winners.

Sorry, your argument holds no water.

[Julio III]

For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

Oh yes, thats brilliant! This better work for the FPS games also. Now we need some other gun shooters, c'mon Sega, or maybe Time Crisis or Point Blank would be lovely. I notice that add-on comes with an analogue thumbstick too. Combined with the nunchuk that makes one stick in each hand as per this gens consoles

[RegSNES]

For the Duck Hunt fans out there... the supposed add-on to make this dream complete. Enjoy (http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/05/lightgun.jpg).

Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho. I'm so gonna enjoy killing those ducks with that thing! And maybe that dog too. :P :evil:

[Darren870]

So I was thinking about the ps3 and how weird its going to be to not have all three this time around, since I wont be getting it..

Then I realized...

I can get a premium xbox360 and a Wii for the same price as a ps3 and an extra controller.

Ha...

[Rev. Link]

Oh, that lightgun looks sweet. I just hope it doesn't become a trend that each game requires a different kind of attachment.

Okay, so IGN's E3 section has a listing for a next gen N-Gage, believe it or not. However, when I click the link it goes to a 404 page. Maybe they'll fix it later so we can all get a good laugh.

http://media.wireless.ign.com/media/827/827271/imgs_1.html

[studvicious]

Keep dreaming of saving your Princess.

You hate Nintendo. WE GET IT. Thank you.

[odyeiop]

@petewhitley :

I work with "the average gamer" or whatever you want to call it. Pretty much everyone I hang out with Hates the Gamecube and praised PS2.. but now loves XBox 360 more than anything. They were bashing the shit out of the revolution for a while.. but after watching the press conference, there's not ONE of them who isn't planning on getting a Wii on launch day. They all think that it's going to be the best thing ever. Now they won't shut up about that.

So, whatever ideology you have stuck in your head.. you lose. =) And I don't have to dream about saving my princess, the new Paper Mario will let me do that. Booyah.

[Rev. Link]

@petewhitley :

I work with "the average gamer" or whatever you want to call it. Pretty much everyone I hang out with Hates the Gamecube and praised PS2.. but now loves XBox 360 more than anything. They were bashing the shit out of the revolution for a while.. but after watching the press conference, there's not ONE of them who isn't planning on getting a Wii on launch day. They all think that it's going to be the best thing ever. Now they won't shut up about that.

So, whatever ideology you have stuck in your head.. you lose. =) And I don't have to dream about saving my princess, the new Paper Mario will let me do that. Booyah.

Lord, forgive me, 'cuz I know this is gonna make me sound like a GameFAQs noob, but I just can't help myself: Nintendowned! LOL

[THATinkjar]

I've just been reading some hands-on impressions with some Wii games. I'm sure you're all doing the same. I beg you all to keep in mind that these titles are still six months from launching.

Ok. I'm done.

[Rev. Link]

Check out these screenshots for Mega Man ZX for the DS. All the different Mega Man series are starting to get a bit confusing, but it sure does look pretty.

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/794/794195/imgs_1.html

[le geek]

@ petewhitley

I don't want to get in on the fanboy dogpile, but the average gamer is not ready to pay $500-600 for a console...period. Other than videophiles, most people don't care about HDTV and High Def DVDs yet. When a standard is is set and prices go down, maybe.

Sony will have no problem selling systems this holiday, but after that...sales will be sluggish (by Sony standards) until a price drop AND a killer app gets released.

Which sucks really, since the most current gen stuff I and my gf play is on PS2. If anything this E3 is disaapointing realizing that it will be difficult to play the great games of the new/next generation...

Cheers,
Ben

[Darren870]

From IGN

May 9, 2006 - Nintendo of America released an official list of upcoming Wii titles and in doing so revealed several previously secret projects underway for the console. Here is the list:

Activision
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Marvel: Ulatimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3

AQ Interactive
Boxing Action

Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2

Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion

BANPRESTO
Family action game

Buena Vista Games
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action Disney's Meet the Robinsons

Capcom
Resident Evil series

D3Publisher
SIMPLE series
Original Action Game

Eidos
Title TBD

Electronic Arts
Madden NFL '07
Medal of Honor Airborne

EPOCH
Title TBD

From Software
Action Game

Genki
Title TBD

Hudson
Bomberman
Flight game

JALECO
Title TBD

Koei
Sengoku Action

Konami
Elebits
'Soccer game

Majesco
Bust-a-Move Revolution

Marvelous Interactive / Natsume
Harvest Moon Heroes
Legend of the River King original simulation

Mastiff
Mr. D Goes to Town

Midway Games
The Ant Bully
Happy Feet

Milestone
New vertical scroll shooting game
New Action Game

MTO
Character Action game
SAN-X All-star Revolution

Namco Bandai
Final Furlong
Mobile Suite Gundam
Digimon
One Piece Ulimited Adventure
New action game
New RPG
Tamagotchi
Title TBD

Nintendo
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Excite Truck
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports

SEGA
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Sonic Wild Fire

SNK Metal Slug Anthology

Spike
Necro-Nesia
Jawa

Square Enix
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

Taito
Turn it around!
Let's go by train!
Cooking Mama -Cooking with International Friends-

Tecmo
Super Swing Golf Pangya

The Game Factor
Title TBD

THQ
Avatar: The Last Airbender
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Disney/Pixar Cars

TOMY
Action Game
Battle Action

Ubisoft
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel

Vivendi Universal Games
Title TBD

Warner Bros. Interactive
Entertainment Title TBD

[snes_collector]

From IGN

May 9, 2006 - Nintendo of America released an official list of upcoming Wii titles and in doing so revealed several previously secret projects underway for the console. Here is the list:

Activision
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Marvel: Ulatimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3

AQ Interactive
Boxing Action

Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2

Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion

BANPRESTO
Family action game

Buena Vista Games
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action Disney's Meet the Robinsons

Capcom
Resident Evil series

D3Publisher
SIMPLE series
Original Action Game

Eidos
Title TBD

Electronic Arts
Madden NFL '07
Medal of Honor Airborne

EPOCH
Title TBD

From Software
Action Game

Genki
Title TBD

Hudson
Bomberman
Flight game

JALECO
Title TBD

Koei
Sengoku Action

Konami
Elebits
'Soccer game

Majesco
Bust-a-Move Revolution

Marvelous Interactive / Natsume
Harvest Moon Heroes
Legend of the River King original simulation

Mastiff
Mr. D Goes to Town

Midway Games
The Ant Bully
Happy Feet

Milestone
New vertical scroll shooting game
New Action Game

MTO
Character Action game
SAN-X All-star Revolution

Namco Bandai
Final Furlong
Mobile Suite Gundam
Digimon
One Piece Ulimited Adventure
New action game
New RPG
Tamagotchi
Title TBD

Nintendo
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Excite Truck
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports

SEGA
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Sonic Wild Fire

SNK Metal Slug Anthology

Spike
Necro-Nesia
Jawa

Square Enix
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

Taito
Turn it around!
Let's go by train!
Cooking Mama -Cooking with International Friends-

Tecmo
Super Swing Golf Pangya

The Game Factor
Title TBD

THQ
Avatar: The Last Airbender
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Disney/Pixar Cars

TOMY
Action Game
Battle Action

Ubisoft
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel

Vivendi Universal Games
Title TBD

Warner Bros. Interactive
Entertainment Title TBD

Thanks for the list, there are quite a few games I'm interested in.

[petewhitley]

And the fellow who pointed out that the PS2 etc. led the market without the bar-none highest graphics is missing my point; home console sales (amongst other technologies) have been driven by processing power for 20-some years.

Uh, no, console sales have been driven by games and price for 20-some years. Otherwise how do you explain that the best selling consoles have NEVER been the most powerful? Oh processing power moves the market FORWARD, but it doesn't make winners.

Sorry, your argument holds no water.

What has been the main, significant difference then between the past, oh say, SIX GENERATIONS OF CONSOLES?

That's right, processing power. Not control style or even significantly different gameplay. We've still got platformers, they're only in 3D now. We've still got sports games, they're only in 3D now. Etc. etc. It drives the industry, and sells new systems. It makes the general public (not DP members) tuck yesterday's system in the closet for the new kid on the block.

What doesn't hold water is all the amateur market analysts here who think they can outpredict Merrill Lynch and those who are well paid to predict such things.

And no, the fact that you work at Gamestop and "all your customers will buy a Wii on launch day" doesn't mean A THING. It's anectdotal evidence. And flimsy anectdotal evidence at that.

I don't hate Nintendo. I grew up with the NES, SNES, etc. But I do hate reading over and over this fanboy drivel about how cool you are for choosing "gameplay over graphics". We get it, you're old-school/a hardcore gamer/retro whatever. Get your head out. I like gameplay AND graphics and I'm not ashamed to admit it, and it doesn't mean I don't still play my Atari 2600 that I've had since I was 5yrs old. I question how anyone can truly "love video games" and proclaim that "Sony is ruining the industry" or that someone has been "Nintendowned". It's ridiculous, petty, and reflects badly upon the more mature gamers who are in this for the joy of gaming, not bragging rights.

[Famidrive-16]

News - Square Enix press conference concluded.
Posted by Josh Freund at 04:50:04 PM EST on 5.8.2006.

Square Enix's conference, which basically kicks off the pre-E3 conferences, is taking place right now in LA. So far, they've shown game footage of various titles and announced some release dates, but we're still waiting for potential surprises.

Here are the US release dates revealed so far:

Valkyrie Profile Lenneth (PSP) - July 18
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (PS2) - August 22. US version will contain some new features.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime (DS) - September
Final Fantasy III (DS) - September
Valkyrie Profile Silmeria (PS2) - September
Final Fantasy XII (PS2) - October

So far, trailers/videos of Dawn of Mana, Children of Mana, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VI, Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime, Valkyrie Profile Lenneth, and the latest Final Fantasy XI expansion have been shown, along with a loooong Final Fantasy XII English trailer.

Update #1 - Wow, huge news! Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors was just shown; it's going to be a launch title for the Wii.

Update #2 - Two new Crystal Chronicles games coming. One for the DS called Ring of Fates utilizing Wi-Fi for multiplayer. The other is for Wii.

Update #3 - The Wii title is Chrystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers and is a launch title. Also, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII have been announced for PS3. Yes, two different FFXIII's announced. The first is presumably the normal FFXII, starring a sword and gun wielding female character. It will take place in what they call the most advanced civilization featured in a Final Fantasy game. Final Fantasy Versus XIII sounds like a side-story. SE is emphasizing that in latin 'versus' means to change direction. But wait, that's not all. There will also be a Final Fantasy XIII for mobile devices.

(source: http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6333)

[Rev. Link]

@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

[hezeuschrist]

@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

I think you guys are on two different levels.

He's right, graphical prowess does push someone to buy a new system but as of this current generation and the upcoming generation there are far, far more variables that have major impacts on sales. The total sales of any given system are based on those variables, the total sales of a generation are largely (not all) due to a consumers desire for something that simply looks better. The difference in graphical quality between the competitors being one of those variables.

Theres no doubt the Xbox won many fanboys with it's "best performance" last generation, but when it comes down to actually purchasing a console even the most casual gamer will look at what games they do and don't want to play.

But now it's totally different. The price of the PS3 and the control scheme/lack of raw power in the Wii are two things the market has never encountered before and it'll be nigh impossible to predict "standings" among the big three in 2009.

What you can count on though is that Nintendo and Sony both have amazing marketing talents. Sony is a no brainer, they're the masters of spin as has been noted previously. They'll likely take the price point of the PS3 vs. the price of the 360 and make consumers think that it's literally TWICE as good because it's literally TWICE the price. And they've got enough trust in the mass market that people will believe it.

Nintendo has taken the DS from a niche market to really poking into the mass non-gamer market with games like Nintendogs and Brain Age. They're experienced in reaching that non-gamer market now and they'll use that to their full ability to push the Wii to a different level.

Nintendo will be the exception to the rule of graphical power, but even still it will be an enhancement over last gen and they'll likely get a LOT of sales at launch from users who simply want a better looking Zelda than they could get on the Cube.

[Joker T]

Tony Hawk's Project 8 announced :D

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706962p1.html

[Griking]

is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

They load fine for me. I'm using Firefox if that has anything to do with it.

[Lothars]

@ petewhitley

Look here, it's real simple. We'd all be inclined to agree with you if the biggest selling systems were also the ones with the most horsepower, but that's just not the way it goes.

Graphical power alone simply doesn't move systems. If it did, the PS2 would have been a distant 3rd place in this generation.

I think you guys are on two different levels.

He's right, graphical prowess does push someone to buy a new system but as of this current generation and the upcoming generation there are far, far more variables that have major impacts on sales. The total sales of any given system are based on those variables, the total sales of a generation are largely (not all) due to a consumers desire for something that simply looks better. The difference in graphical quality between the competitors being one of those variables.

Theres no doubt the Xbox won many fanboys with it's "best performance" last generation, but when it comes down to actually purchasing a console even the most casual gamer will look at what games they do and don't want to play.

But now it's totally different. The price of the PS3 and the control scheme/lack of raw power in the Wii are two things the market has never encountered before and it'll be nigh impossible to predict "standings" among the big three in 2009.

What you can count on though is that Nintendo and Sony both have amazing marketing talents. Sony is a no brainer, they're the masters of spin as has been noted previously. They'll likely take the price point of the PS3 vs. the price of the 360 and make consumers think that it's literally TWICE as good because it's literally TWICE the price. And they've got enough trust in the mass market that people will believe it.

Nintendo has taken the DS from a niche market to really poking into the mass non-gamer market with games like Nintendogs and Brain Age. They're experienced in reaching that non-gamer market now and they'll use that to their full ability to push the Wii to a different level.

Nintendo will be the exception to the rule of graphical power, but even still it will be an enhancement over last gen and they'll likely get a LOT of sales at launch from users who simply want a better looking Zelda than they could get on the Cube.


I agree 100% with your post there,

I do think the price point for the PS3 is high that's not to say that they couldn't just be trying to gauge reaction on it and than drop the price but I doubt that to,

It's gonna be an interesting generation and no matter what there won't be one clear winner

though I plan to have at least either a 360/ps3 and a Wii probaly all 3 if possible

but it's probaly not feasible, we shall see

It's gonna be an interesting generation

and System Power does define some things but it's definitly not the be all and end all.

[segagamer4life]

is there some reason why my pics aren't showing up? any ideas? I rechecked the url's and everything looks fine...

Because it requires you to be logged into IGN to view them


oh, thanks for the heads up.. damn that stinks...

[Slate]

Tony Hawk's Project 8 announced :D

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706962p1.html

:o

HOLY....

Those graphics are CRAZY! THP8 (Beforehand known as Downhill Jam) Is on my Must buy list when i get a 360!

[Rev. Link]

Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

[Joker T]

Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

You are correct. Downhill Jam is for the Wii, Project 8 is for the 360 and I'm guessing the other primary systems.

[keiblerfan69]

Wait a minute... so this Project 8 is just Downhill Jam? I thought they were two different games...

You are correct. Downhill Jam is for the Wii, Project 8 is for the 360 and I'm guessing the other primary systems.

Project 8 is for PS3, PS2, PSP, XBOX and XBOX 360.

[Anthony1]

I just got done watching the full versions of the Wii videos, and I must say that Nintendo couldn't have gotten goofier looking actors if they tried. Those people looked really, dumb, and really gay, and I must say that I was embarrased for Nintendo while watching it. The whole people with spiked hair and all that crap, just made me LOL, not in a good way.


Bottom line, the videos are very, very goofy. Especially the humans playing the games. Everybody looked dumb.


The other thing that I got from it, was the fact that the graphics for the Wii suck. Plain and simple. And please, don't barrage me with all the "That's all you care about? Graphics? How sad is that?". Save all that shit, ok. Sure, I know that it's all about the gameplay, but you have to admit that the Wii looks like it has Xbox 1 graphics, for a next gen system releasing late in 2006, it's downright embarassing. The graphics for Mario look no better than Mario Sunshine and Mario 64, what the F is up with that? Come on, this system has to have much more power than that, where is the power? The Metroid game looks just like the current Metroids on the GameCube. And don't even get me started on the Golf and Baseball games, pathetic.


I was actually somewhat excited about the Wii, just because I thought that maybe there would be a kick ass game that involves swordfighting or lightsabers or something. I guess Red Steel or whatever, is kinda like that, but still, I'm not as excited about the Wii as I was. The graphics just seem so far below the 360 and PS3, it's almost laughable.


Again, I totally understand that graphics are only screen deep, and that it's all about the gameplay, but like I've always said before, incredible graphics and deep and solid gameplay are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. Also, although I'm somewhat of a graphics whore, I can't be 100 percent graphics whore, because I still love games like Cybermorph for the Jaguar and Sega Rally for the Saturn. The graphics on those games suck bigtime, but that doesn't stop me from loving them. Thus, while the graphics of the Wii are a huge letdown, it doesn't mean the games are going to suck or anything, but for me to say that I'm not horribly dissapointed in the Wii, would be an outright lie.

[joshnickerson]

Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html

[Anthony1]

Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html


eh, I've never been a Smash Brothers fan, so that doesn't do anything for me. All I really want from Nintendo is a Mario game that is as good as Jak and Daxter 3 or Ratchet and Clank 3 or crap like that. The idea of playing a Mario game with that controller doesn't appeal to me. Basically, I want a Mario 64 on horse steroids. I thought that Mario Sunshine was going to be that game, and then that game turned out to be Mario 64 1.5 :Stuck on an island. The graphics of Mario Sunshine were a major dissapointment to me, and I wasn't a big fan of the whole water spout thing, and I also didn't like to be stuck on an island. I want to see a ton of different worlds. Super Mario World is my all time favorite game, and Mario 64 was absolutely revolutionary for it's time, and it was the perfect way to bring Mario into the world of 3D, but since then, it's been all downhill. When I first heard about Super Mario Galaxy, I was incredibly pumped up and excited, but after watching the video of it, I'm quite dissapointed. I'm sure I'll still play the thing from start to finish, and I'm sure it's probably fun and everything, but it's not what I was dreaming of.

[Famidrive-16]

Smash screens:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-revealed-for-wii-featuring-solid-snake/

[diskoboy]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

[kainemaxwell]

Remake of Classic Duck Hunt for Wii:

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html

Thanks youruglyclone for finding this.
That's some of the best news yet!

[Rev. Link]

Snake! SNAAAAAKE!!!! Freakin' awesome! Man, Solid Snake in Smash Bros.! This has to be up there as one of the biggest surprises of E3.

Plus, if you want some news of the others systems, bring something up worth talking about. It's hard to get excited about a $600 system.

[keiblerfan69]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Well Shadow Run looks amazing. I like what they are doing with Vista so that games on PC will earn you achievement points. Also I think Shadowrun-PC vs. Shadowrun-360 is a great idea.

[hezeuschrist]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

[Darren870]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

I dont think many people are pumed for the ps3...thats probably why.

[studvicious]

Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

Bingo.

[Snapple]

CJayC over on GameFAQs just made a post after he got back from E3. He said he wasn't sold on the Wii until he actually played it. Now that he's played it, he says it basically exceeded all expectations, and that it looks like the best next-gen console right now. He also said he thinks most other people will believe in the Wii once retailers get playable kiosks up to show how fun the controller is.


Oh, and hezeus hit the nail on the head. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy by any stretch of means. I love my PS2 much more than my Gamecube, but PS3 hasn't unveiled anything interesting besides the price. When they show something mind-blowing besides some cookie cutter shooter or some cookie cutter racing game, the games will be worth commenting on. The Wii stole E3, whether or not it is the better console remains to be seen, but it clearly had a better show than Sony.

[badinsults]

Man, the idea behind Disaster - Day of Crisis sounds absolutely killer:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=139530



But still, the games of the show for me are Yoshi's Island 2 and Super Paper Mario. Platforming goodness has finally returned!

[RegSNES]

At work today I was a bit bummed knowing I wouldn't be able to play Metal Gear Solid 4 and Virtua Fighter 5. I love those series but not enough to shell out $600. Then I saw a trailer for what will be the sequel to one of my all-time favorite games: Super Smash Bros. Brawl. It has Pit. PIT!!! Nintendo must have been reading my messages on the net about new characters for a SSB game. And we have Meta-Knight!! SOLID SNAKE!! Too good. I'm hoping Little Mac will be a new character as well.

I am all over Nintendo's Wii and yes, that pun was 100% intended.

The 360 version of Tony Hawk P8 looks sick.

[Rev. Link]

I just watched the SSBB trailer again. It makes me want to cry when I see it! It's a shame that won't be a launch title now. People have been clamoring for Pit to be in this series since the first one. I hope this means we'll finally be seeing Kid Icarus 3 soon.

Little Mac would be an excellent addition to the game, but I still want pig Gannon! More than anything else, though, I hope they give each character a unique move set this time, unlike the hidden characters in SSBM.

[THATinkjar]

Perhaps this will shut you up Tony.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl....REVEALED.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html

Wario! Bloody Nintendogs!! Absolutely awesome!!! I can't believe Snake is there, too!

The graphics look really sweet, too! Can't friggin' wait!!!

[Fuyukaze]

The last home console system Nintendo released which I gave a damn about was the SNES. That said, I honestly look forward to the Wii. From the price point to the controler to the downloads and the graphics, there isnt a thing I dont like about it. I know some members here look at the $500-$600 and think it's just a quarter to half their paycheck and think it's no big expense, but I see that amount and realize that's nearly an entire months income for me. I dont make alot of money and that price is beyond my means. Do I hate Sony? No, I dont. Between the PS1 and PS2 I own almost 200 games. If I hated them so much, I wouldnt own half that number. If anything one would think I hated Microsoft from my lack of support for the x-box. I have less then 30 games for it, yet I dont hate it. It doesnt matter to me if Tom, Dick, and Jane all go out and buy a PS3 at launch instead of the Wii. I think I'll be more happy with the Wii then anything the PS3 has to offer because from what I've seen so far, everything the PS3 has to offer is done better by everyone else.

[Lothars]

everything the PS3 has to offer is done better by everyone else.


Honestly that's a lie

we have no idea how the online will be 0.........plus there's the unknown factor of blu-ray

will it be as good as live? probaly not but will it be bad I doubt it

but to say everything is just a misguided statement0......

though to be honest I am looking at a 360 than eventually a ps3 because I still want the PS3, even though the best thing they could do is drop the price lower than 599, just before launch which would honestly do alot for the momentum

[THATinkjar]

Whoa! IGN are suggesting that Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin on the Nintendo DS could be the BEST EVER Castlevania.

It is a shame to read that Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Galaxy won't be launch titles.

[Lothars]

Whoa! IGN are suggesting that Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin on the Nintendo DS could be the BEST EVER Castlevania.

It is a shame to read that Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Galaxy won't be launch titles.

that's awesome

I love Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow and if it's better than that, that's just amazing

[MarkMan]

I played Portrain of Ruin for almost an hour... IT IS AMAZING.

I love it so far... it really is one of the best Castlevania's already... very innovative for the series.

[THATinkjar]

I don't know if anyone else knows this... but Nintendo seem to have confirmed that the standard output will be 480p. And they commented that the Wii is "much more" powerful than the GameCube.


I played Portrain of Ruin for almost an hour... IT IS AMAZING.

I love it so far... it really is one of the best Castlevania's already... very innovative for the series.

I officially hate you. Wait, no, maybe you can snag me a copy... I love you, really :)

[MarkMan]

You can hate me now. I'll try to get some more details on it tomorrow when I meet with Konami. :)

In other news... DigitalSpace found this picture... IT HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED in any way!

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/845/markistheman22rr.jpg

[THATinkjar]

Holy Moly! Best looking E3 booth babes ever! I'll take the one on the left, please. Please send via UPS Priority shipping. I'll pay you in mesetas!

[FantasiaWHT]

Thanks for actually taking my point and elaborating it. You DO realize you took all that space to say what I had already said, right?



... processing power moves the market FORWARD...

It makes the general public (not DP members) tuck yesterday's system in the closet for the new kid on the block.



Yes, processing power delineates the generations of hardware, but it is not even close to a prediction of success.

Some of the most powerful systems per generation have been failures commercially.

[kainemaxwell]

Came across this also, apperently Nintendo's taking suggestions for SSSB characters:

http://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/gaming/631577/

[Ninja Blacksox]

Came across this also, apperently Nintendo's taking suggestions for SSSB characters:

http://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/gaming/631577/

Eggplant Wizard! Eggplant Wizard!

-A Boy

[diskoboy]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

Ummm - thats the textbook definition of a fanboy.

As I said... I want a Wii now too, but Jesus Christ people... There are other games for the 360 besides Halo 3 and Gears of War. And just because the PS3 has an astronomical price doesn't mean people don't wanna hear about it. And not one single person has mentioned Spore...

Still haven't heard jack-shit on the PC end.

BTW - Did S.T.A.L.K.E.R not show up at the show, this year?

[Icarus Moonsight]

The buzz is Wii. **shrugs**

Spore looks flat out amazing, it's Will Wright, what would you expect? I just may have to snag a copy. :)

On the 360 front... what has interested me the most is Prey and Too Human. I'm not sold but I am interested.

That's all I can come up with that isn't Nintendo related... See why I would rather jive about Wii and the new DS games?

A vertical shooter from Milestone on Wii!!! My heart just skipped a beat. :love:

[Xexyz]

Alrighty MarkMan, since you got some extensive playtime out of the Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin demo I have a question to ask you. Is it an explorative based Castlevania like the last five 2D Castlevania titles, or is it taking a more traditional, linear role? I'm curious because the gameplay videos just give me the idea that it might be taking on the old-school formula approach.

[zerohero]

My WIW "What I want"

Xbox 360

Gears of War
Lost Planet
Halo 3

PS3

Lower price
Metal Gear Solid 4

Wii

Red Steel
Zelda Wii
Mario Wii
Wario Ware Wii

PC

Crystalis
Spore

This list is subject to be updated

[Anthony1]

I was going to make a new thread titled... "Ok, so who is actually at e3", but I figured that it would be closed and that I would be instructed to just post it in this thread, so I'm just going to do it here.



WHO IS ACTUALLY AT THE e3 SHOW?



If you are actually at the show, can you give us some detailed impressions of your takes on games for the Wii, PS3 and 360, in regards to games that you actually had a chance to play yourself, or if you watched somebody playing the actual game? I'm not very interested in the videos or screenshots or anything, I just want some first hand experiences with actual playable games for these systems. Especially the PS3, cause I want to know if the PS3 really looks better than the 360, or is it pretty much the same. I'm also curious to see if the graphics for the Wii are as unimpressive as they look on the videos, or if they look much better in person. In the videos, they appear to be Xbox 1 level. Also, curious to get any takes on what it is like to use the wand and the tethered thing at the same time. Is it goofy to hold the wand and pretend it's a gun? I know they have that holder thing that makes it seem like a gun, but I don't like the idea that they but the movement on there too, cause that would seem super ackward to me.

[Rev. Link]

Was it announced that Mario Galaxy won't be a launch title? 'Cuz I kind of had my fingers crossed that it might be a pack-in game.

Hey, I know that doesn't happen much anymore these days, but if it's true the Wii could be really low in cost, why not throw in a pack-in game?

[Anthony1]

Unfortunately, pack in games are things of the past. We'll be lucky to get a little demo sampler thrown in there with a playable level or something.

[Rev. Link]

Well, RedWarrior was telling me he read an article on IGN where they totalled up the cost of making a Wii and determined that charging $200 for a Wii would be overpricing it.

So who's to say they might not charge $200 for the system and a game? Of course, Wii Sports is much more likely as a pack-in title.

Pack-ins may be a thing of the past, but then we never thought we'd see another 2D console platformer again either, and now we get Super Paper Mario.

[hezeuschrist]

Ummm - thats the textbook definition of a fanboy.

As I said... I want a Wii now too, but Jesus Christ people... There are other games for the 360 besides Halo 3 and Gears of War. And just because the PS3 has an astronomical price doesn't mean people don't wanna hear about it. And not one single person has mentioned Spore...

Still haven't heard jack-shit on the PC end.

BTW - Did S.T.A.L.K.E.R not show up at the show, this year?

No, discussing whats interesting to us makes us Fans, not fanboys.

Why haven't you heard anything about the PC? Because Vista isn't worth talking about, from every preview of every preview build every site says it's a giant chunk of shit. It's completely anti-user friendly and assumes the user is retarded. How many prompts do you have to clear to delete a shortcut from the desktop? 4. It warns you four times just to delete a shortcut for christs sake. That's terrible.

That, and it's not going to be out until 2007 now, so who knows what will actually make it into the final build. So far they've promised the world and in the latest preview build, have delivered Montana.

As for games, it's the same thing with the PC, over and over. There hasn't been innovation on that platform for 10 years. Yes, I'm looking forward to Half Life two Episode 1 or whatever they're calling it now, but I have no need for previews about it, it's going to be more of Half Life 2. Other than that I can't think of much thats even interesting... STALKER maybe, but even last year it was almost a no-show, and then theres the WoW expansion, but really, unless you actively play WoW no one cares. Another Rise of Nations expansion maybe? So wait, the PC has more FPS, RTS, and MMO's on the way? Who woulda thought.

And you may not have noticed this, but this isn't much of a PC gaming community. Some of us here have capable rigs but for the most part the people here are console enthusiasts.

Not fanboys.

[Darren870]

Nintendo is the king of pack ins. They had like what 6 different ones for the gamecube.

Though they wern't on launch, wii sports seems like the perfect pack in title.

Oh and I didnt see this, but Metroid 3 is a confirmed launch title.

[Anthony1]

Is it just me, or is Metal Gear Solid 4 going for a "3 Kings" or "Traffic" look? You know, that movie 3 Kings, or the movie Traffifc? The graphics have a kinda look to them that suggests they are going with a certain type of filter on the graphics to get a look that is similar to the movie 3 Kings. Kinda that grungy, grainy type look or something.


Anybody know what I'm talking about? I wonder if this look is intentional, or if it has to do with the way the PS3 does it's graphics.

[Rev. Link]

IGN reports that the main theme for SSBB was composed by none other than Nobuo Uematsu!

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707620p1.html

Also, Miyamoto himself has said not to count out seeing other 3rd party characters show up in this game. Sonic and Tails? Hey, if Uematsu's involved we might get Cloud.

[Anthony1]

Hey, whatever happend to Killzone for the PS3? I mean, wasn't that the biggest thing at last years e3? Kinda weird that it's totally dissapeared.

[Drexel923]

Well I'm happy with what I've seen from Nintendo and Microsoft. Even though I was already planning on getting a Wii on launch, I'm really excited for it now. It might be one of the best launches I've seen in a while...

Zelda: TP
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (just confirmed today)
Red Steel
Wii Sports (hopefully a pack in or around $20)
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
Excite Truck (I believe it's a launch game)

I'm also impressed with the little we've seen on Mario and Project H.A.M.M.E.R. Obviously it sucks that we won't see Smash Bros at launch, but the above games will keep me happy while I wait.

I can understand some of the responses towards the Wii sports games...honestly I was hoping for better graphics on that shore, but I think it will work out in the end. I see it as being the gateway to other Wii games. When you are trying to get non-gamers to join the fold, usually the two things stopping them are complicated controls and sometimes complicated graphics...if theres a lot going on the screen at once, people might assume its too difficult. On top of that, Wii Sports looks to be a good learning game for the controller. Something to play to get used to the remote, before jumping into a game like Red Steel or something.

I have a question for everyone here...the system is most likely going to cost around $200-250...does anyone else think that the games are going to be closer to the DS pricing structure than the current gen? I have a feeling that most of the games will be $30-40.

Nintendo also impressed me with their DS and Gamecube lineup...there are a lot of great games coming down the line (most of them have been mentioned in this thread).


I've been happy with my Xbox360 and there were a few games that looked really good. I didn't really see anything new that got me excited, but the updates on games I already new about are nice. Actually there were a few games I wanted before, but after the last few days I actually don't really want them anymore (Lost Planet). Hopefully they will release a Dead Rising demo this week.


As for Sony...I don't even care anymore. For the amount of money that I spent on both the PS2 and PSP launch, I really felt burned by what I got at those times. So, I already knew I wasn't getting a PS3 at launch. But now its $600 (face it...its almost worthess to buy the cheaper one), I'm definitenly not getting one anytime soon. And personally I wasn't really excited about any of the games they showed...alot of the ones I do like I'll probably just get on the 360.

Also, like others have said I think its cold that they've already copied Nintendo's motion sensing stuff. Someone pointed out that it wasn't Nintendo's idea in the first place, that it was on the PC a couple years back...while that may be the case I don't think it really matters. Fact is...Sony showed no indication of doing anything remotely close to motion sensing, but then they lose a lawsuit, have to remove the rumble, and see that some people may actually like the Wii, and once again, Sony copies an idea and calls it innovative. On top of that...Nintendo's controller is way more in depth than the stuff that was used on the PC.

Analog, rumble and now motion sensing...while Nintendo wasn't the first in overall gaming to use any of those, its hard to argue that they weren't the ones who perfected them and brought them to consoles....and every one of those ideas Sony has swooped in and copied, and then used their spin to claim their method is revolutionary. Well at least by all of this we can gather that Nintendo is going in the right direction again...and maybe the Wii isn't that far out there.

[Rev. Link]

So far, the only PS3 games that I'm actually interested in are MGS4 and the eventual RE5. And, of course, Tony Hawk. But there's no way I'm buying a $600 system for any of those. It's just too much money. Maybe in a few years, once the price on the thing goes down, the first batch of bug-ridden hardware is out of the way, and there are a lot of good games for it, then I'll get one. I feel the same way about PSP.

360, while having a handful of games I think would be cool, still doesn't have the one killer app that's gonna get me to buy it. Halo's only okay IMO, and I haven't cared for GTA since San Andreas (that game was waaay too massive), and I found Fable to be a big disappointment. However, Gears of War looks like it has potential. Once the 360 goes down in price, I might wind up getting one to play Tony Hawk on.

[Darren870]

Also, like others have said I think its cold that they've already copied Nintendo's motion sensing stuff. Someone pointed out that it wasn't Nintendo's idea in the first place, that it was on the PC a couple years back...while that may be the case I don't think it really matters. Fact is...Sony showed no indication of doing anything remotely close to motion sensing, but then they lose a lawsuit, have to remove the rumble, and see that some people may actually like the Wii, and once again, Sony copies an idea and calls it innovative. On top of that...Nintendo's controller is way more in depth than the stuff that was used on the PC.


You forgot how they ripped off the 360 with the center button.

[THATinkjar]

I was going to make a new thread titled... "Ok, so who is actually at e3", but I figured that it would be closed and that I would be instructed to just post it in this thread, so I'm just going to do it here.

LOL Decide on the course of action, and then do the opposite. You've got it nailed, Anthony1 ;)