Name the System that You Just Don't Like [Archive]

Kid Ice

10-16-2002, 10:47 PM

Okay, there have been a number of systems in the history of videogames that I could do without. You could have your Intellivision, your Sega Master System, even your Super Nintendo... I could live without those 3 for various reasons.

But is there that one system that you single out for complete hatred? One that you pick on a little bit? One that you dislike on an emotional level, even though you can't quite pinpoint the reason?

For me, that system is the Colecovision. Now before all you Colecovision fans (and there are a lot of you here) bombard me with flames and game recommendations, let me stop you right there...I've heard it all before. No one is turning me onto it. No one is bringing me over to the Coleco team. Better men have tried and failed.

When I try to put a reason to my feelings about the Colecovision, logic breaks down.

I don't like the controllers. Not a little bit. Yet, I wouldn't say they're the worst controllers ever made (I'm thinking about you, Intellivision, and you Atari 5200).

I don't like the games. Sorry, Venture is just not a marquee game. Neither is Zaxxon. But boy, that Donkey Kong looked pretty fierce back in '82.

Maybe it's the little intangible things. Like the way you just have to sit there and wait for a game to start up. Or how you have to choose the number of players and the difficulty from that stupid menu (on which the choice is invariably "1") Or the way the controller cords resemble phone cords from the seventies.

Or maybe it's that Colecovision attitude. You had to be there to know what I'm talking about. Just that superior attitude of those kids who asked their parents for Colecovisions instead of Ataris. And got them!

My friend Mike was the only kid on our block to get a Colecovision. He invited me over to play it. I was thrilled...to learn how much I hated it! It's like I WANTED to hate it!

"I've got news for you Mike; this sucks! Want to come over and try my Vectrex? I bought it for 50 dollars! Hey, is Coleco gonna come out with Berzerk? How about Pole Position? What's this game...Cosmic Avenger? Did that ever come out in the arcades? Hey Mike, let's watch Scooby Doo instead of play Colecovision, okay? Pitfall is better than Donkey Kong, by the way."

Ultimately, when I look at it in a rational way, Colecovision FAILS my "one worthwhile original game" test. Odyssey had KC Munchkin. Intellivision had AD&D. Atari 5200 had Robotron. To me, the CV just had NO GAME.

the kid

Anyone with a similiarly intense hatred of this or a different system, or am I alone in this? And DON'T SAY VECTREX!

Tempest

10-16-2002, 10:52 PM

Atari 7800. I can't get into it no matter how hard I try. Every time I try I think "Atari tried to run THIS against the NES?" Ugh!

Tempest

Raedon

10-16-2002, 11:16 PM

HaHa, that's what I first thought about the 7800! "Phht, the NES blew this away.." But then I played Ms. Pacman and some other classics and it does more arcade conversions right them any other classic console.

MY most hated was the CD-I, and I hated it because it ruined the name "Zelda"

GENESISNES

10-17-2002, 12:25 AM

the CD-I also trashed mario with the weird game "hotel mario". The 5200 joysticks sucked ass. Talk about self-centered!!!(i know its lame okay!!!)

moycon

10-17-2002, 12:29 AM

Odessey2 never did it for me.

scooterb23

10-17-2002, 01:04 AM

I think I've made it pretty clear over the years that I am not much of a fan of the Super Nintendo.

I've never really understood what I disliked about it, I think the main thing is that I have had a heck of a time finding good games for it.

First off, all RPGs are out, I've never liked 'em, never will. Now I know that is what a lot of the top SNES games are, but I don't care for the genre.

Next, I really like sports games, and, with rare exceptions, the SNES was poor in the sports department.

NOw, I do like hop 'n bop games, and the Mario games are genius on the SNES, best of the series hands down.

Once I get past those though, I'm not seeing too many games I care to play.

Now, if people want to try and convince me otherwise, I'm all ears.

Captain Wrong

10-17-2002, 01:17 AM

I have to say that the system I dislike the most is the Intellivision. Where as I don't "hate" it per se, it rarely gets hooked up much.

First off, the controllers are terrible. Far worse than the 5200's, which get much worse press. I hate the fire buttons on the side and they're spaced weird, the disc controller is a pain in the ass and someone once described using the keypads as "trying to dial a telephone and work a thumb pad at the same time."

The games, well...I just don't see a star title in the bunch. Sure there were games that were innovative for the day, like the sports games and Utopia. Problem is, you need two players. And honestly I haven't been able to find anyone to comeover and play Intellivision with me.

Some of the games most people point to (Burgertime, Lock N Chase, Bump n Jump) as being excellent were ported to other systems with better controllers and I'd rather play those. (Yes, I know 2600 Burgertime is terrible, but the Coleco version rocks.)

Speaking of sports games, I'm not a big fan of them. I know this was a huge selling point back in the day, so already I'm not interested in some of the best games for the system. Not to mention soprts games age badly, unless perhaps you have some nostalgia for them.

The rest of the games just seem to be lacking to me. It seems like the games are slow and made overly complicated to point out the fact that the Intelivision had more buttons than the 2600. I'm a fan of faster arcadey type games and the Intellivision just is lacking in that area.

There are three games I will still play once in a while. Snafu, Astrosmash (another one that was ported) and Loco-Motion. That's about it, and those hardly show off all the system was capable of.

Runner up, the 7800 *looks at Radeon ;)*. Not a terrible console (though they did strip down the sound capabilities perhaps to be backwards compatable), just really lacking in the software department. It would have been interesting to see some more modern (for the time) games on it rather than more ports from the early 80's, even if they were great ports. Oh yeah, the controllers really suck too. But it does have Food Fight, probably my fave game for the system.

Now if we were talking "Which console do you think is most over rated..." ;)

Spike

10-17-2002, 04:10 AM

I honestly can say that the first system that I ever thought was just plain and total packaged shit was the N64.

I didn't see anything good in the game market, nothing drew me twards more friggin CART play, (as to CD play), and the controllers...... The Controllers!!!!, errrrrrrrrrr!

Arrrhalomynn

10-17-2002, 05:36 AM

Yeah, the N64 REALLY sucks. I still have to play a good game for that thing. Same with the cd-i. incredible suck machine.

The32xMemorial

10-17-2002, 09:39 AM

Ahhh, poot on all you Nintendo 64 haters... wouldn't know a good thing if it farted in your mouth. :fist:

The N64 controller DOES take a bit of getting used to, but it can be accomplished. Once you've mastered it, it works great and is one of my favorite controllers. I spent a good two hours last night playing Rainbow Six (which is MILES better than the awful PSX game, but not quite as nice as the DC port) and before that it was Rayman 2. Before that it was Ogre Battle 64, before that Hydro Thunder, and before that Beetle Adventure Racing. If you can't find something fun to play on the N64, you simply aren't looking hard enough.

My least-favorite console has got to be the Atari 2600. I don't quite understand that, as I loved it as a child and it was my most favorite thing in the whole world and I played it for hours. I don't know what happened. I guess I got tired of "beeps" and "boops" for sound, and crapily animated squares for graphics. Say what you will about "classic gameplay" and all that... I'd rather suck dirt off the floor than plug up my 2600 nowadays. I guess I've been spoiled on the NES, Genny, SNES, Saturn, PSX, and N64. Bah!!!

digitalpress

10-17-2002, 09:55 AM

the CD-I also trashed mario with the weird game "hotel mario". The 5200 joysticks sucked ass. Talk about self-centered!!!(i know its lame okay!!!)

Heh... I really LIKE Hotel Mario! The Zelda games were bad news though.

I'm trying to think of a console that I don't like for the wrong reasons. I mean, ANYONE can hate the Channel F or RCA Studio II, both of which play video games as well as a waffle iron could, but to dislike a system because of it's controller or game "feel"? Hmmm. This is my problem. I like them all for one reason or another... give me some time to ponder this.

Ruudos

10-17-2002, 10:00 AM

There's not really a system I hate. Every system has its good points I guess.

@DigitalPress, you're not the only one, I also think Hotel Mario is a pretty fun game.

YoshiM

10-17-2002, 10:14 AM

What system do I hate? Hmmm. That there is a good question. I'd have to also say Coleco ::steps behind barracades::. Yes, definitely Colecovision ::Steps down into a foxhole::.

The controllers are one big thing. The little knob seemed like it strained against me when I played. The fire buttons practically needed to be squeezed into the controller (and this was on a system that was rarely played from the original owner) and the number buttons weren't that responsive. Then there is the load time...on a cartridge?! I know that there was a delay on purpose, but damn! Then there were the games: there wasn't a lot that got my interest. Then the games that WERE good for me sucked due to the controller.

The SNES is next in line. But that's another story.

Dobie

10-17-2002, 11:52 AM

I tried really hard to like the Sega Genesis. Just never could get into it. I agree that a lot of SNES sports games sucked for the most part, but I still love Ken Griffey Jr. MLB (not the shitty sequel--the first one), Tecmo Super Bowl I & II, and quite a few of the hockey games. Genesis didn't come out with a single sports game that was better than the SNES though. I for one am no RPG fan, but some of the RPGs on the SNES are pretty fun. Secret of Mana for one. I do not like Phantasy Star and never will. Thus, I gave away my Genesis, and I don't miss it one tiny little bit.

There has to be a reason one can easily find Genesis systems still on the shelf at used stores, even though they're ten bucks or less. If most people see an SNES and a Genesis system next to each other, and they are both $20, I promise you 9 times out of 10 the SNES will be the first one to go, and I don't think its because the SNES has "shitty gameplay."

tynstar

10-17-2002, 01:17 PM

Genesis didn't come out with a single sports game that was better than the SNES though

NHLPA 93. On the Genesis it kicked ass on the SNES it sucked ass!

IGotTheDot

10-17-2002, 01:56 PM

I wouldn't say I hate any consoles, but I would say that I tend to focus on and think about buying games for one or two systems at a time. Right now I am all gung ho to buy games for the DC, but 2 months ago it was all about the Genesis. I guess it's my Man-cycle. It depends on what time of the month it is. :)

MarkM2112

10-17-2002, 02:01 PM

Out of all the systems out there, the one that I like the least would have to be the TurboGrafix 16. Except for one or two games, there really isn't any game on there that I would really want to play. I am not really a SHMUP fan, and most of the games on there seem to be oriented to that genre. Second would probably have to be the Oddysey (sp?) 2.

And btw, I LOVE my Inellivision and Colecovision, so NYAH!

maxlords

10-17-2002, 02:20 PM

Mark...I'm kinda surprised to hear the TG16 listed in this post...there were some SERIOUSLY cool games for that system...RPGs, platformers, etc. A lot of them were Japanese only, and a LOT were hard as hell to find, but tons of good games. What kind of gmaes do you like? I could recommend some GREAT TG16 games. However, you are right in one sense, as there are a LOT of shmups for that system...prolly over 100 for the TG16 and the Duo combined.

As for my personal hatreds? I don't like the following systems at all:

Any pre-NES system(Atari, Coleco, Intellivision, Odyssey, etc) and the the CD-I. Now I have virtually every system released from the NES on, and I have at least 3 or 4 games I love for every one of em, but I just can't get into any of the pre-crash games at ALL! I like em in the arcade machines...but not enough to want to own any of them. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm only 25 and grew up into gaming through the Nintendo rise to power, but I just don't like ANY of those systems/games, other than if I happen upon them in an arcade. The only exception is the C64, which I love cause it was the first gaming machine I ever owned :)

Cafeman

10-17-2002, 02:33 PM

I used to hate Intellivision, back in the day. But that's because I was an Atari zealot. I still don't like the Intellivision library, but in a way I now like the system because it's different.

N64 is really crappy to me too. There are a few good games for it, they are all Nintendo's. Cartridges alone are to blame.

MarkM2112

10-17-2002, 03:02 PM

Mark...I'm kinda surprised to hear the TG16 listed in this post...there were some SERIOUSLY cool games for that system...RPGs, platformers, etc. A lot of them were Japanese only, and a LOT were hard as hell to find, but tons of good games. What kind of gmaes do you like? I could recommend some GREAT TG16 games. However, you are right in one sense, as there are a LOT of shmups for that system...prolly over 100 for the TG16 and the Duo combined.

Perhaps that is the reason that I did not like it. My preferences for gaming genres are as follows: Strategy, Puzzle, RPG, Classic Arcade, Action Adventure, Platform, Sports, Fighting, SHMUPS, and Driving. Perhaps the fact that a lot of them were Japanese only, and a LOT were hard as hell to find, did not help the TG16 find its way into my heart. My cousin had one, and I REALLY wanted to like it, but I could not get into the games that I could find for it...

Arcade Antics

10-17-2002, 03:30 PM

I like every game system.

However, the one I like the LEAST has gotta be the R-Zone.

I mean really, what WERE they thinking? Really.

10-17-2002, 05:36 PM

I'll go the handheld route & say "Game Boy". I still can't believe this measly little piece of crap outsold the Lynx the way it did. 8-bit, colorless graphics, tiny display, same old Mario, Zelda, etc etc. (not to mention Nintendo's business tactics.)

Then they introduced NEW CASE COLORS! WOW! A red Game Boy! Hey- yours is BLUE! COOL! Who cares?

Now there's the Game Boy Advance- does anyone else think it's strangely similar to the Lynx- which came out 10+ YEARS AGO??? I'm not impressed.

*frowns, shakes head slowly in disgust...*

Kid Ice

10-17-2002, 07:28 PM

Game Boy? Did somebody say Game Boy? When I was rippin into the old Colecovision, I never even thought about Game Boy. Now that one deserves a thread all its own.

the kid

...such as "Game Boy sucks"

And I STILL hate Colecovision more!

Kid Ice

10-17-2002, 07:30 PM

@Scooter; don't forget Street Fighter 2. I don't like SNES either, but for me that one game was good enough to make the system.

the kid

theaveng

10-17-2002, 07:55 PM

The system I dislike is the Original Nintendo. I can't find any games worth playing, I don't like the pattern-based graphics, and the sound sucks. I suspect I was spoiled by the C=64.

But I DO like the Super Nintendo. I could play that system for weeks and never get tired.

N64: I just bought this console a month ago, and I don't see anything wrong with it? The controller is easy to hold, the graphics are hi-res 640x400 (better than PS1), and the games like Mario 64 are cool. What's not to like? Oh yes, the lack of CD-based movies. Well, I always preferred games to movies anyway, so no loss.

Atari2600: Everytime I play this system, it takes me back to my childhood. Yes, the blocky graphics and bleepy sounds are ultra-primitive, but the classic arcade gaming of Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missile Command, Defender, Berzerk, et cetera make you quickly forget about the flaws.

And that's yet another reason I dislike the NES: No arcade classics worth playing. :-(

theaveng

10-17-2002, 08:20 PM

How about Atari Jaguar64? I've never played it, but I hear many, many people complain about this system. (Why?)

10-17-2002, 08:58 PM

Probably because the games were original (though some uninspired) & didn't have Mario or Zelda (Link) in them!

(sniff, sniff)- do you smell sarcasm?

Also, Nintendo was "the thing" to have...the Jag was sorely misunderstood & unappreciated in its time. IMO the Jag kicks @$$ over ANY Nintendo system.

Mine's still hooked up to the the best TV in the house!

ManekiNeko

10-17-2002, 09:40 PM

There are just too many to name, but here are the ones that rush to mind the most quickly...

Game Boy Color

Talk about your disappointments! Not only was the hardware weak- we waited this long for an improved Game Boy and THIS was the best Nintendo could do?!- but the software was atrocious. If you weren't interested in Zelda or Pokemon you could expect nothing but awful movie based games and bewildering translations of Playstation games. Thank goodness the Game Boy Advance put the Game Boy Color out of its misery two years after its release.

game.com

Even the commercials couldn't make the games look good, and that's saying a lot. It was actually a step DOWN from the ORIGINAL Game Boy, and that's saying even more.

Atari 7800

Some peoples' loyalty to Atari just amazes me. What doesn't amaze me at all is the 7800. The only thing this console really has going for it is that it can play 2600 games and looks a lot more stylish than the VCS. I pity anyone who put a 7800 game into this thing, though.

JR

omnedon

10-17-2002, 10:20 PM

I play some more often than others. But I love them all.

Yes, The Intellivision controllers are ergonomically evil, but there is the odd game designed around them that just make it shine (*cough*TRON Deadly discs*cough*Major League Baseball*cough*)

Yes, the ColecoVision controllers were sucky, and it couldn't scroll in hardware, but those Hi-res arcade ports made the system 'leet back in the day-- jaw dropping good in '83.

Getting games for my SMS was tough in 87. The selection blew, but it was mine dammit, and I liked it.

For me, it's not about like and dislike, as much as it is to enjoy this piece of hardware, a physical snapshot of state of the art and innovation in electronic gaming of that era. To preserve it, and to own the consoles, so I can play nearly any game, at any time, from any manufacturer, for nearly any console. To keep it for the future, for my satisfaction, and for the possibility that one day in the future, others will be able to view the collection and see the physical manifestation of the evolution of one of my favourite forms of entertainment.

One day, we will be like old movie buffs, except that we are taking part in the preservation of the history, fellow curators. :D

It's like preserving cars and books. It's important.

The deeply flawed ones deserve preservation too.

theaveng

10-18-2002, 08:33 AM

digitalpress

10-18-2002, 08:38 AM

BTW, some peoples' loyalty to the Original NES amazes me too. Like I said earlier, I don't think any of the games are worth crap. There's SMB and then there's... well, nothing else. :-(
Troy

That's a pretty bold dismissal of an electronic wonder. Have you ever played Contra? Metal Gear? Mega Man 2? River City Ransom? Legend of Zelda? Punch-Out!!?

I was never a fan of the NES but this is the first time I've ever heard someone competely dismiss the library of 750+ titles. You're certainly entitled to your opinion Troy, but I've never disagreed with you more.

maxlords

10-18-2002, 09:34 AM

Perhaps that is the reason that I did not like it. My preferences for gaming genres are as follows: Strategy, Puzzle, RPG, Classic Arcade, Action Adventure, Platform, Sports, Fighting, SHMUPS, and Driving. Perhaps the fact that a lot of them were Japanese only, and a LOT were hard as hell to find, did not help the TG16 find its way into my heart. My cousin had one, and I REALLY wanted to like it, but I could not get into the games that I could find for it...

Well for strategy, there are a few but not a ton. Most notably:
Military Madness (Nectaris), Neo Nectaris(japanese) , Master of Monsters(japanese), Solid Force (japanese), Lords of the Rising Sun, and TONS of heavy japanese Koei games.

Not many puzzle games except: Panic Bomberman, Splash Lake, Implode, and Parasol Stars: Bubble Bobble 3

RPGs..there were a few good US ones: Neutopia 1 and 2 (very Zeldaish), Dragon Slayer, Beyond Shadowgate (very rare), Cosmic Fantasy, Exile (part RPG, part platform), Exile Wicked Phenomenon (fairly rare), Dungeon Explorer (like a cross between Gauntlet and Zelda), Dungeon Explorer 2 (VERY rare), Y's Book I and II, and Y's III. There were also TONS of Japanese ones..but of course..tehy're hard to play..a few have walkthrus if you're really hardcore. Those include Far East of Eden 1 and 2, Y's IV, and Legend of Xanadu 2.

There were also a lot of arcade and other games for the PCE/TG16, but most were released in Japan...over 800 games released in Japan, only about 150 here. Tons of good platformers, shmups, fighters, etc. Not many good sports or driving games however :)

Arcade Antics

10-18-2002, 12:07 PM

Had the 7800 been released in 1984 (as originally planned) we'd all be discussing AtariCube.
Highly dubious.

The 7800 could emulate arcade hits way better than the NES.
For example?

Like I said earlier, I don't think any of the games are worth crap. There's SMB and then there's... well, nothing else. :-(

I wouldn't bother to try to convince you to like the NES, but out of curiosity, how many of the 750+ NES games have you actually played on a real NES? Which games? There are TONS of good arcade hits, nicely done, on the NES.

theaveng

10-18-2002, 05:49 PM

BTW, some peoples' loyalty to the Original NES amazes me too. Like I said earlier, I don't think any of the games are worth crap. There's SMB and then there's... well, nothing else. :-(
Troy

That's a pretty bold dismissal of an electronic wonder. Have you ever played Contra? Metal Gear? Mega Man 2? River City Ransom? Legend of Zelda? Punch-Out!!?

No, but I look forward to receiving the ROMs in the email so I can! electrictroy@yahoo.com :D

(Actually, I did try Punch-Out and didn't care for it)

digitalpress

10-18-2002, 06:01 PM

ROMS?!

You really don't get it, do you Troy?

I'm more disappointed that you'd even make a statement like that without having played the systems' most notable titles. That pretty much ends any credibilty you ever had in my eyes, anyway. Well, hope you have fun on the forums and LEARN something in the process.

Captain Wrong

10-18-2002, 06:15 PM

No, but I look forward to receiving the ROMs in the email so I can! xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com

Wow, this reminds me of a discussion I had once with a guy who worked in a game store (wonder what ever happened to him?) We were talking NES and he commented about how so many kids would come in the store and totally slam the quality of the NES. When he got to talking to them, it would always come up that they'd never actually played the system, just checked out the ROMS via emulators.

If you don't care for the games, that's one thing, but to claim system x does things better than system y when you've only expirenced system y through emulation is absolutely asinine. Emulation, good as it has gotten, will never be the actual thing it is emulating. There will always be a loss of quality somewhere.

*shakes head* I don't know why I even bothered typing this. I guess I'm just in a mood today.

Kid Ice

10-18-2002, 09:46 PM

Atari 7800 Some peoples' loyalty to Atari just amazes me... I pity anyone who put a 7800 game into this thing, though.

Had the 7800 been released in 1984 (as originally planned) we'd all be discussing AtariCube. The 7800 could emulate arcade hits way better than the NES.

BTW, some peoples' loyalty to the Original NES amazes me too. Like I said earlier, I don't think any of the games are worth crap. There's SMB and then there's... well, nothing else. :-(

Troy

Let me just stop you right there.

First of all, the thread is about consoles that you hate in an unusually high degree, without a huge amount of justification. I don't like the Colecovision. Period. There are things wrong with it, but there are things wrong with everything.

So the idea is, you post the name of the system you don't like, and maybe give A LITTLE background on why you feel that way. Everyone else seems to be capable of this except for you, "theaveng". It's not something that's meant to turn into a flame war. It's not something you have to justify at length.

There are perfectly good reasons to not like the Atari 7800. If you're going to say you hate the NES, you're on pretty thin ice, but okay, if that's your opinion.

What you DON'T want to do is build this RIDICULOUS case where you say the Atari 7800 is better than the NES. Those two machines are simply not in the same league. It's almost like comparing a movie like Gattaca to a movie like Episode 1.

If you disagree, then I implore you to compare the 7800 version of Galaga to the NES version. You said the 7800 emulates arcade games better, right? I want you to compare those two games, and honestly tell me that the 7800 is better at emulating arcade games.

In fact, since you are such a lover of polls and opinion pieces, why don't you start a poll where we can have everyone vote on which version of Galaga is better?

If the 7800 version wins the poll, I WILL NEVER POST A MESSAGE ON THIS WEBSITE AGAIN! I will withdrawal my membership at this board and you will never hear from me again!

So, theaveng, if you really want to put this great knowledge you have acquired from the 10 years you didn't play videogames to the test, why don't you counter my offer? Why don't we start this poll, and whichever of us is wrong, LEAVES? How's that sound?

the kid

And the NES versions of Xevious, Kung Fu Master, Mario Brothers, Double Dragon, and Donkey Kong are better too, BTW.

digitalpress

10-18-2002, 10:59 PM

scooterb23

10-19-2002, 12:13 AM

Actually DP, I do remember seeing a list where Gattaca was ranked as one of the 10 best Sci-Fi films ever...ah, here it is from Wired Magazine June 2002...

THE WIRED SCI-FI TOP 20

1. Blade Runner
2. Gattaca
3. The Matrix
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. Brazil
6. A Clockwork Orange
7. Alien
8. The Boys From Brazil
9. Jurassic Park
10. Star Wars
11. The Road Warrior
12. Tron
13. The Terminator
14. Sleeper
15. Soylent Green
16. RoboCop
17. Planet Of The Apes
18. The Day The Earth Stood Still
19. Akira
20. Barbarella

I'm not a huge sci-fi fan, but I'd agree with much of this list.

jaydubnb

10-19-2002, 01:19 AM

The systems thats the biggest waste of molded plastic is The Gameboy. The ratio of bad games to good is horrendously high.

Honorable mention for most overrated system goes to the GBA. Hey, Nintendo, I already own a SNES!

jaydubnb

10-19-2002, 01:22 AM

Raedon

10-19-2002, 01:34 AM

Gattica is in a league all it's own.. Sci-Fi drama.. good stuff..

theaveng

10-19-2002, 07:05 AM

I have played a real Nintendo. It's sitting right in front of me on a bookshelf... given to me by an old high school pal. Playing the real think is even suckier than playing the emulator. Same is true with Atari 2600. Playing the real thing is not as much fun as playing the emulated version on the PC.

I like the Atari. Commodore. Super Nintendo. I even like SMS. But not NES. I just don't like the games.

Troy

P.S. Gattaca is far superior to Episode 1. Gattaca is actually worth watching. And no Jar Jar Dweebs.

theaveng

10-19-2002, 07:20 AM

You really don't get it, do you Troy? I'm more disappointed that you'd even make a statement like that without having played the systems' most notable titles. That pretty much ends any credibilty you ever had in my eyes.

I'm disappointed to see this message from you Digital Press. My comments were confined to the equipment. You are now attacking ME. You've crossed the line from intellectual debate, to personal attacks. Unacceptable.

RULE: "You agree not to post any abusive... or hateful material"

Arrrhalomynn

10-19-2002, 07:36 AM

If YOU act like a retard,the of course he's going to attack YOU. And since when are you having intellectual debates? I have never seen you say anything even remotely intellectual.
All you do is whine about people disagreeing with your unsupported, non-argumented opinions.

NvrMore

10-19-2002, 07:55 AM

Playing the real thing is not as much fun as playing the emulated version on the PC.

That's so very, very wrong..

Although they're great little programs, Emulators still aren't capable of providing "True emulation" of any given system. They're fantastic pieces of work and all credit to their creators, but in effect all they can do is immitate the system as best they can, they cannot actually match they original.
It's like an Elvis impersonator, he can get the clothes, copy the moves, sing the songs and even get surgery to look more like Elvis, but he might be fantastic at pretending to be Elvis and he might put on a good show, but he is not the same as or as good as the original.

In the sme vein, although there are many that try, there is no emulator that can match the original system, some provide neat little tricks to add onto their impersonation, but they never provide the same experience as the original.

Put simply, on an emulator it's not like you're playing on the console, it's the equivalent of playing on a PC / MAC conversion of that console's games.

Try actually playing the games (not the roms) before you make such sweeping remarks.

theaveng

10-19-2002, 07:59 AM

Okay, enough. Let's stop attacking people and get back on topic:

ATARI 7800:
You guys are right. Gattaca on the 7800 is not as good as on the NES. Vice-versa, Robotron is not as good on NES as on the 7800. The 7800 version rocks.

On the flip side, 7800 doesn't have anything like Super Mario Bros. Or Zelda. Which is shame. The 7800 could do games like that, but Atari was too busy re-hashing old arcade classics instead of developing original stuff.

Overall though, I still think the 7800 is a good system. It's similar to the Colecovision, but a step higher in technology and with much better controllers.

theaveng

10-19-2002, 08:04 AM

Atari 7800 Some peoples' loyalty to Atari just amazes me... I pity anyone who put a 7800 game into this thing, though.

What about the Atari 2600? Do you have the same opinion about that system?

digitalpress

10-19-2002, 08:34 AM

You know... you just can't reach some men.

Oh well.

Hey, IS Gattaca in a league of its own? Funny, I saw it and thought it was pretty decent but I'm usually all alone when I enjoy a movie like that. Good to know that it was "commercially acceptable"!

maxlords

10-19-2002, 09:10 AM

It's almost like comparing a movie like Gattaca to a movie like Episode 1.

:lol:

OK Jeff, you lost me on that one. WHICH ONE is supposed to be the good one and which one is supposed to be the bad one?

:lol:

From a critical standpoint, Ep. 1 was a total piece of shite. It was mindles, degenerating, and lacking in almost every area. I saw it opening night, expecting something good, and I FELL ASLEEP in a sold out crowd I was so bored!

Gattaca was a masterpiece of filmmaking, IMO, as well as in many critics' opinions.

maxlords

10-19-2002, 09:13 AM

Okay, enough. Let's stop attacking people and get back on topic:
ATARI 7800:
You guys are right. Gattaca on the 7800 is not as good as on the NES.

You want to trade you'r original factory copies of Gattaca for the 7800 and the NES? I'd give ya good trade for em..... :)

Kid Ice

10-19-2002, 01:13 PM

I want to apologize to everyone on this board for reviving the "Gattaca vs. Episode 1" debate. I will not post again on this subject.

the kid

..as for the boring, overrated Blade Runner...oh, never mind.

bargora

10-19-2002, 07:07 PM

..as for the boring, overrated Blade Runner...oh, never mind.

No way! Blade Runner is sweet!

And GB/GBP/GBC = steaming doo-doo, largely because I can't find any games for it that I enjoy playing, with the possible exception of the Super Mario Bros. port. And the screen is too small.

Now, to those of you who "hate on" the GBA for being Nintendo's SNES reissue cash cow, well, I can't say that it's not being milked like that. BUT, I implore you to go out and buy Advance Wars or Gradius Galaxies or one of the Castlevanias for your GBA (you DO own one, right?) and try it out before you reach a final judgment. There ARE original games coming out, even if some of them are franchise extenders. Hell, I've played Advance Wars more than ANY other game I own this year.

jaydubnb

10-19-2002, 07:50 PM

Raedon

10-19-2002, 07:58 PM

You guys are right. Gattaca on the 7800 is not as good as on the NES.

Dude, that's so wrong.. why are you here? lol :roll:

michael

10-19-2002, 08:43 PM

Okay I know this is going to cause more than a few waves but hey It's a free country as long as america keeps on lying to the public :D

Well a system I never did like was the Atari 2600...
BUT You have to understand my age and the type of video games I like to play such as RPGs and Action RPGs.
I am 14 so I barely got the see the NES and hell the Atari systems were long gone by the time I was born.

I tried a few games and I will admit I liked Donkey Kong and Pac-Man. but that's about it... not to mention the horrid controllers / joysticks (depends on what you want to call them) but anyways that's my 2 cents.

scooterb23

10-19-2002, 10:43 PM

Gattaca on the 7800 is not as good as on the NES

You just can't argue with logic like that... :shock:

And Michael, it's ok not to like the 2600 as long as you have a valid reason....no matter how wrong you are ;) j/k. I'm actually surprised more people haven't come out against the 2600, I've always kind of felt like "you had to be there" to understand the charm of the 2600.

Heck, if I wasn't around at the time of the 2600, I don't think I'd give it a second look these days.

michael

10-19-2002, 11:00 PM

Hey I never said the Atari 2600 wasn't a great system for it's time or even now but it just doesn't appeal to me.
I kind of feel bad saying ....
Anyways I DO like a few of the games but it didn't justify me owning one so I sold both my systems (2 versions) heh Strange thing is getting those 2 systems + 50 games +2 10 game holders and system holder only cost me 50 bucks....

Tempest

10-20-2002, 12:29 AM

I actually liked Episode I... :shock:

Tempest

theaveng

10-20-2002, 07:26 AM

The best thing about the Atari 2600 is you can play it at work during your lunch break. The games only require about 10 minutes to play... they don't go on forever like today's RPGs and action-adventures.

Also, the 2600 games are good for family get-togethers... everyone can take a turn trying to get the highest score.

emumuumuucowgomoo

07-24-2005, 09:02 PM

Oooooh, this thread has the potential for fun!

The Sega Master System.

CHRIST what a piece of crap. Don't start. I've played it. If these games were released for the NES, they'd be considered crap. Alex Kidd? There's a NES game that's exactly like it and considered one of the crappiest. Can't remember the name of the NES game - though Puss n' Boots also reminds me of a punchless Alex Kidd. The same piss poor level of play mechanics, the same dull, dreary backgrounds.

The Great sports series is unfortunately not so. Oh man it hurts. Hurts so bad it hurts.

Wonder Boy? You mean Shitty McNoSword and the Epic Door Knocking Fest? Come ON... Castlevania is easier to get around in than this thing.

The Sega arcade ports suck, the music is generally drab and horrible no matter what title you're playing, and I cannot for the life of me stand RPGs, so no Phantsy Star.

Every game that was offered for both this and the NES is better on the NES. And the NES was released, what, two years before the Master System?

Of course, it did well in Europe. Along with the Crusades, the Pope, tasteless food, martial law, shooting innocents in the 21st century, and Nazis. So I guess it figures.

Kuros

07-24-2005, 09:32 PM

Personally, anything pre NES I can't get into.

I just can't stand playing the games. I've tried and tried but they don't appeal to me.

I guess that's what I get for being born during the NES era. LOL

towerofsong

07-24-2005, 09:35 PM

Can't stand the Master System, at all.
Just everything seems wrong and poor. And ew.

Lothars

07-24-2005, 10:00 PM

Well the system I dislike because it wasn't that good IMO is the Game Gear

It was really cool to see a Portable system with a color screen but all in all it's a mediocre system

especially when the caliber of games on the gameboy is so good compared to the games on the gamegear

but than again I've only played a couple games, so it's possible im missing out on some of the better games

so that's why I picked the gamegear.

Jon

MrRoboto19XX

07-24-2005, 10:34 PM

You know, this is going to sound crazy (my apologies if this was only meant for classic systems) but there's something about the Xbox...

Im not sure what it is, perhaps its the fact that had Halo not existed, the floodgate of crappy games for it would'nt have occured. I mean when I look at some of these 3rd party titles I can only be reminded of how so many american games are bland, boring, and lacking.

Perhaps its the whole microsoft "We're better than you, we have more money than you, and we dont care how much we loose" attitude. As a company theyre no longer innovators, theyve simply become par, mediocre. They are the Wal-Mart of games/computers

I know part of it is its legion of rabid fanboys who swear to their life Halo 2 is amazing. Dont get me wrong, its an enjoyable game, but give yourself more variety.

Were Halo/Halo 2 good games? Yes. Is the system graphically superior to anything else? Yes. Does it have currently the best online community? Yes.

But still, I cant shake it. Perhaps someday Ill buy one when theyre cheap and I can find good games at bargain prices.

The whole system just comes off as a "Me too" that got lucky, and I guess it makes me feel off because it seems like there shouldve been a good Sega system in its place, but who knows.

If you enjoy the Xbox, so be it and enjoy yourself.

As for me, after I post this on my mac, Ill go play Katamari Damacy, or perhaps SOTN.

sabre2922

07-24-2005, 10:51 PM

The N64 is the one system that I severely dislike and the only reason that I dont "hate" the system are the few saving graces wich are: the Zelda games,Mario64,Paper Mario,Conker, and Doom64 (yeah so Its my fav version of Doom :P ).

Other than that when I think about the N64 I have flashbacks of fuzzy foggy slowdown filled graphics that were prominent in about 90% of the games ever released for it.

I mean this was the system that made me hate my beloved Konami for releasing the crapfest that was the Castlevania64 games :puke:

and the controller :frustrated: I dont care how anyone tries to explain it away it sucks period.

I remember playing the original KI in the arcades back in the summer of '95 how I luved that game and me and my friends were sooo hyped everytime the ULTRA64 logo would launch up and then came the real thing the freakin let down of a decade the N64 and the and a terrible port of my beloved Killer Instinct in KIGOLD I mean it didnt even compare with the original arcade machine and Nintendo hyped it forever as "just a sample of what to expect for the upcoming Ultra64 system" BULLSHIT NINTENDO all lies Hell I had to go back to my trusty old SNES to get to play a decent port of the original KI wich was muuuuch better than the hacked to death N64 version :angry:

I honestly have never been more let down more by a system in my 25 years of gaming the loooong waits for a quality title to hit the store shelves the sooo many unfulfilled promises the freaking fuzzy ass graphics and all that fog!!!!! :bad-words:

Anyway Ive gotten overly excited its time to take my pills and a beer back to my padded room with all my crushed memories in tow :sob:

diskoboy

07-24-2005, 11:10 PM

Griking

07-24-2005, 11:17 PM

Out of all of the classic consoles that I played the one that I got into the least was the Intellivision. I can't say that I dislike it, it just never attracted me like the other classic consoles such as the 2600, 5200, O2, Colecovision and even the Astrocade. Perhaps it was the controllers, maybe it was because I really wasn't into sports games as much as I love adventure and arcade games or maybe it was because I dislike George Plimpton when I was young for some reason. Whatever the reason I'd have to say the INTV.

DTJAAAAMJSLM

07-24-2005, 11:30 PM

The R-Zone. It's just a little too simplistic, and the library doesn't have any titles that interest me.

AlexKidd

07-24-2005, 11:39 PM

I wouldn't say i really hate any system. Everything i've ever played has had at least a couple fun games. However there are a few systems I have issues with:

1. Game Boy(original)- No matter how many good games this system may have had I find them unplayable in black and white, and with the puke-green colored screen. The 2600 and Coleco had color and were much older. The fact that this thing outsold better systems like the turbo express,lynx and game gear really pisses me off.

2. Nintendo 64- This system was ok. I'm a nintendo fan and most of the first party games were good. However, I hated that there were barely any 2d games(I can only think of paper mario).

3. 32x- this had some ok 2d games which could have been done on the genesis but the 3d games looked terrible. They should've waited for the Saturn.

4.Intellivision- I enjoy some of the games for this system but the controller is one of the worst ever made.

5. PSX/PS2-Both of these have some very good games but Sony just puts out way too many games and most of them are crap.

FantasiaWHT

07-24-2005, 11:46 PM

Haven't read much more than the first few but...

The Nintendo 64.

I just can NOT get into this system at all.

I think the graphics are butt-ugly. Sure, the PS1's polygons were pretty hideous too, but at least you had some gorgeous cutscenes (or hand drawn backgrounds!) interspersed throughout that gave you such wonderful "ahhhhhh" moments.

I HATE HATE HATE the controller. Too big, bizarrely laid out... I never EVER felt a good "connection" with the character I was controlling.

The games never drew me in either. I'm sorry to 99% of you who think Ocarina is the best game ever, but I can't stand it. I've started the game 2 or 3 times, and each time I get horribly bored and disinterested after a few hours. I can't stand Mario 64. Super Mario Kart is way better than Mario Kart N64. I only pretended to like Mario Party's for my best friend's benefit.

I could buy an N64 for dirt cheap right now (never owned one before) but I won't even bother.

scorch56

07-25-2005, 01:50 AM

Nintendo 64.. I just don't like it. It was the system I waited the longest to buy (4 years). I always buy Nintendo's latest console offering the last though, out of all current generation systems (i.e. my Gamecube came WAY after my PS2 and Xbox). To me.. Nintendo's game offerings have always been "weak" (They're the systems I own the least games for.. save the SNES). However.. I do really enjoy the Super Nintendo.. almost as much as the Genesis. Last great system Nintendo made.. IMHO.

emumuumuucowgomoo

07-25-2005, 01:59 AM

I'm probably gonna get shot for this...

The Sony Playstation. Just didn't like it. It seems like practacally every game released for it was an RPG (Which I can't stand) or a game that is not designed for a western audience. Sorry - I'm not obsessed with Japan, either.

Nonsense! How can you say that! Why, there are three Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen games, and more than ten (count 'em, TEN) NASCAR racing games. USA, APPLE PIE, AND PLAYSTATION ALL THE WAY SIR 9/11 NEVER FORGET!!!!! WTC WTC!!!

Oh, and more than a couple of fishing games.. though I dunno, those might fall under the "RPG" category :P

Push Upstairs

07-25-2005, 03:00 AM

I've made it quite clear on this board that i cannot stand the N64.

I don't like the controller.

I don't like "fog".

I don't like the controller.

I don't like its library of games (I've yet to find a game on that system i like)

And did i mention i hate that controller? Stupidly designed and really uncomfortable for me to hold.

I don't mind the Gamecube, SNES, & NES...but that N64. :angry:

robotriot

07-25-2005, 03:32 AM

It's the N64 for me as well. I haven't found any interesting games yet, the controller is badly designed PLUS it's one of the ugliest console designs ever imo ;)

pixelsnpolygons

07-25-2005, 04:07 AM

The only one is Game.com, nothing remotely redeeming

VG_Maniac

07-25-2005, 06:16 AM

Wow. I can't believe there are actually people out there who don't like the SNES. With games like Super Mario World, Zelda: ALttP, Actraiser, Mario Kart, Contra III, Super Castlevania IV, Super Metroid, Final Fantasy II & III, Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, Chrono Trigger....what is there not to like? Well, I won't try to argue with anyone seeing this is my first post other then the one I made in the introduction topic.

The console I dislike the most is the Xbox. I know Halo is a good game...but I really don't see anything else on that system that shines. Everyone I know who owns an Xbox, bought it mostly for just Halo and Halo 2. When I ask them what other good games there are on it...they just name games I can already get on my PS2, with the exception of Fable. Still, that's not enough to make me want to buy an Xbox...the most overhyped system in video game history. If it weren't for the Halo games...the Xbox would have gone the way of the Saturn and Dreamcast (which both have way more good games then Xbox in my opinion).

Elusive

07-25-2005, 06:29 AM

smokehouse

07-25-2005, 06:59 AM

You know, it’s funny how time changes things. This thread started back I 2002 and at that time the N64 was not under such fire. I myself are a rabid Nintendo fan, I love the NES and consider the SNES to be one of the best systems ever made. The N64 on the other hand…

I tried to like this unit. I bought it the day it came out and played the train wreck that was Mario 64 for days (trust me, it was a massive force-feeding). I returned it in a week and bought a Playstation, quite possibly one of the best decisions I ever made. Since that time I have acquired another N64 and have tried, once again, to play the top titles.

CRAP!!!!

I now own 3 titles. Yes, 3. Paper Mario (amazing title), Mario Golf and Ocarina of Time. That’s it. I can’t stand Ocarina; it’s slow paced, blurry as all hell and simply does not hold me attention as well as the older Zelda titles OR the newer Windwaker. Also, I second the bad controller effort; it’s simply one of the worst designed controllers in the history of gaming. I my opinion the N64 is a terrible failure. The cartridge format insured the games would be limited in size, they lost Squaresoft (a MASSIVE mistake), the audio was poor (due to the cartridge format) and thanks to anti-aliasing, everything is so out of focus, it’s simply too annoying. A massive failure on Nintendo’s part. Who here still plays Mario 64? Who here still plays Super Mario World? I’d be willing to say it’s 1 to 5 in favor of SMW.

The second system is the Xbox (yep MrRoboto, you and I are in agreement). Before the flames start, yes I used to own one and I just recently sold it. I’ve played the “top” titles and can say I’m simply not impressed. This thing is a PC in a box, not a console. I knew that when Microsoft entered the gaming world that they would forever change it and they have. The thing is unit is the best looking, best sounding system and has a great online service.

BUT, for us who were tired of first person shooter titles back when Rise of the Triad was new, Halo is nothing more than a pretty remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of Wolfenstein 3D. “But, you can use a vehicle!!!” Who gives a shit. It’s another FPS that will be worth $.25 in five years. The Xbox is disposable gaming at it’s best. I can’t stand the Microsoft philosophy of “use our billions to wear down our competition” .

Look at it from this angle, every system has its classics. Yes, even the N64 has Paper Mario. What will the Xbox be known for in 2015? Halo, Halo 2? It’s defunct online service? Perhaps Project Gotham Racing or Ninja Gaiden? I strongly doubt it will be thought of as anything more than a paperweight.

emumuumuucowgomoo

07-25-2005, 07:03 AM

I dislike the SNES for a number of reasons. The first would be the slower-paced nature of its library. Because of the Mega Drive's innovative CPU and processing tactics (ability to display items onscreen whilst simultaneously loading information from ROM as opposed to Nintendo's CPU-centred architecture, and so on), it could vastly outpace the SNES' meagre processing power.

Up until here you're doing pretty well.

Hence Gunstar Heroes vs. Contra, Sonic the Hedgehog vs. SMW - I know which I'd rather pick up and play any day.
The second is kinda related to the first. Because of the system's limitations, the SNES's library is mainly RPGs and hop 'n' bop platformers.

I am tempted to call "absolute poppycock" here.

I will not get technical, I will not get technical, I will not get technical, I will not get technical...

Maybe that's the REPUTATION of the SNES, but offhand I can only think of about 20 RPGs, and can guesstimate at about 100 side scrollers, 150 maybe. A lot of those were cross-ports -and beyond the sports titles and a handful of exceptions (Beavis & Butthead, Disney's Alladin come to mind), most of these were better on the SNES. Come on, Earthworm Jim for Sega? Give me a break.

Anyway, I'd imagine that if you were to take both platforms mathematically, you'd find about the same percentages, with the SNES having an edge in sports titles (heck, there are roughly a billion million baseball titles), strategies, and puzzles, and the Sega perhaps having a few more action-oriented bangbang games. Even so, I'd bet the difference is surprisingly slight.

Fine if you like that sort of thing - however, this is about why I dislike the system. The Mega Drive's library sports far more action-based games than the SNES'.
The third is the companies behind the systems. Nintendo's constant reiterations of their 'family friendly' policies meant that most of their titles were developed for a younger age group. I offer in evidence the fantastic home conversion of Mortal Kombat on the Mega Drive, as opposed to the slow, de-bloodified version found on the SNES.

Why not compare the pret'near-close-to-arcade-perfect SNES port of Mortal Kombat II versus the uglified, fuzzy-sounded Genesis port? I'm not sure, it's been ages since I played the Genesis port, but I think the SNES version actually has MORE blood in it.

Beyond the MK controversy - barely warranted, since looking back, Mortal Kombat is hardly a great game - the age of the SNES is when Nintendo finally liberalized a bit. Boogerman? Beavis and Butthead? Earthworm Jim? Nintendo was more about "give the gamers something BESIDES blood and guts" than "NO BLOOD OR GUTS" - most of the no blood/guts literature is holdovers from when they were still getting their feet wet in the ocean of America. There've always been games like Rescue: The Embassy Mission (NES), Smash TV (NES and SNES), and even the original Street Fighter II (SNES), which all featured blood in varying amounts.

When you're ten, and your friend has the 'family friendly' Mortal Kombat whilst you have the ability to keep the arcade's blood (all hail ABACABB! ;) ), guess whose system was played more? However, that's purely personal preference.

In the end, however, I'd be glad to own both. I was brought up a Sega loyalist, but that's not to say I'd turn down a free SNES. LOL

Awesome.

Just bickering because it's 7AM and I have nothing better to do.

Oh, ever play Sword of Sodan for the Genesis? I think that game pretty much tips the scales in favor of the SNES. It is seriously the worst piece of crap I have ever touched, let alone played.

smokehouse

07-25-2005, 07:10 AM

You know, I agree that the SNES was a slower paced machine but you really can’t just bring up titles like Gunstar Heroes and Sonic. Both systems had their strong and weak points. For starters, the SNES was superior in sound and in color pallet. Games like Final Fantasy III would never had been possible on the Genesis. Even if it were made for the CD, the color pallet wouldn’t be there. Second titles like Mario kart would not be an option either (possibly on the Sega CD, I’m not sure). Lastly, the graphics were simply not comparable. Mortal Kombat wasn’t a failure on the SNES due to hardware; it was a decision on Nintendo’s part to butcher the title that did the damage (bad, bad move). It was widely accepted in the community (yep, even in the magazines) that the SNES version was much closer to the arcade in terms of color pallet, music and over detail. Had the SNES version been uncut, it would have cleaned house.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike the Genesis, I own both Sega CD units and all three Genesis units. Hell, I even have the Laseractive Genesis unit. I am just playing the devil’s advocate. To say that either the Genesis or the SNES is a crap system is a bit closed-minded. If you like one, you should like the other, they’re simply too close in comparison and game content.

anagrama

07-25-2005, 07:10 AM

edited in the name of communal harmony.

jhd7

07-25-2005, 07:25 AM

Let me qualify my opinion by listing the only systems I've ever played:

NES
SNES
Game Boy (original)
ColecoVision
Atari 2600
Atari 7800
Sega Master System
Game Gear
TurboGrafix16/Duo

Pretty short list, eh?

I don't actually hate any of them, but my least favorite is the 7800. After playing Galaga and comparing it to the NES version, I got rid of my entire 7800 collection.

The Game Boy was too difficult for me to see. The Game Gear is close behind, but it's more a matter of picture size than lighting.

I'm a big CV fan, but agree that the controllers are crap.

Never tried XBOX, and probably won't. Microsoft is evil. ;-)

jhd7 / Jeff D

TurboGenesis

07-25-2005, 07:26 AM

I'm probably gonna get shot for this...

The Sony Playstation. Just didn't like it. It seems like practacally every game released for it was an RPG (Which I can't stand) or a game that is not designed for a western audience. Sorry - I'm not obsessed with Japan, either.

I WISH every game was an RPG. Then I would love the PSX. RPG's (shoot em up's, Castlevania, and GT2)are the only real reasons I like PSX.

Now for the one system I could do without. Like the other recent posts, N64. First off I don't get down with 3d gaming very well. Second I HATE analog. Its soooo 80's. Nintendo brought us the Digital Pad with the NES and then takes it away with the N64. Third I can't Fxckin stand Goldeneye!!

I do however like Mario Kart 64, Mischiff Makers and Sin & Punishment. Star Soldier is fair but the caravan mode is more fun.

cowmando6

07-25-2005, 08:14 AM

I own over 20 systems and there are only 3 that I absolutely despise: PSX, PS2, and XBOX (even though the last two are current gen.). I can't stand Halo although I have played through both. The only game I actually enjoyed for Xbox was probably Mechassault and the port of Doom 3. Now for the PSX, I just never got into this console. There was just too much crap for that thing. Sure, there were some good games, like Crash Bandicoot, Resident Evil, and I enjoyed Medevil 1 and 2. Just never cared much for it. Now the PS2 I just despise. The friggin system has sooooo many problems all the time. They frequently break down and I've already had mine fixed once. I don't really care for the new Final Fantasy stuff and could care less about Metal Gear Solid :runs for cover: Yeah, and I hate GTA too. This game could not hold my interest no matter how hard I tried. There was only a handful of games that I enjoyed such as Gitaroo Man, Maximo, and the Smackdown games. Phew, I'm done...

FantasiaWHT

07-25-2005, 08:29 AM

Glad to know I'm not alone hehe

Jumpman Jr.

07-25-2005, 09:14 AM

Hmmm...
The thing is, there are probably a bunch that I wouldn't like, but I have never played them (because I know that I wouldn't like them.) Like the Sega CD and Saturn, and stuff like that. But, there are consoles that I own, that I don't really like:

Atari 2600: Yes, unlike the rest of the world, I don't much care for the 2600 (or the 5200 and 7800 for that matter). Aside from playing the odd game of Pitfall II on it, it never gets played at my house. I'd much prefer the Intellivision over it....

PS1: Well, I've never much liked consoles that ran on discs. I just can't take the loading time. There seems to be way to big of a library of games that I know I won't like. The PS2 is a little better, but I still don't like it.

Slimedog

07-25-2005, 11:42 AM

All systems have their strong points and I love all my "children", but I love the Lynx the least. Mainly because of the awkard control layout that leaves my hands throbbing after an hour or so, and the games. I've got about 30 of them and the best I've been able to find is Crystal Mines 2. Were there any killer apps on this thing? I know Battle Wheels is decent, but its hardly a system seller. And the Atari fans keep the values up so high, I have to drop an arm and a leg for at best average games. I know it had more horse power and graphical effects than the Game Gear, but I was consistently amazed by the lack of graphical detail in every game I ever played.

fpstream

07-26-2005, 02:13 PM

I'd have to go with the Nintendo DS. I just can't sum up my feelings for it. It annoys me, it has no good games. The biggest game in Japan, Nintendogs, I just don't get it. It's Tamaguchi (spelling?) all over again. It's a bad Sims. It's Pokemon without the RPG elements. Sorry, I'm rambling now.

Howie6925

07-26-2005, 02:43 PM

I have 2 systems I could really do without and that would be N64 and Xbox.the n64 because of the grafics and the poor game library(minus nintendo made games). And the Xbox because I can get 95% of the games on PS2 and the xbox exclusives are good but not enough to keep me coming back. I own one(xbox) but ive played it for maybe 5 hours total since owned.

Slate

07-26-2005, 11:34 PM

AlexKidd

07-27-2005, 05:08 AM

Oh, ever play Sword of Sodan for the Genesis? I think that game pretty much tips the scales in favor of the SNES. It is seriously the worst piece of crap I have ever touched, let alone played.

I actually like the genesis a little more than the snes. I'm not here to argue about that since both of them are in my top 3 favorite systems(along with the turbo). However i'd like to say that I have at least 500 games and Sword of Sodan is by far the worst one in my collection. I'm pretty sure i've got it hiding somewhere far away from the other genesis games. I paid $1 for it and I feel ripped off so I feel really bad for the poor bastards who paid full price back in the day.

Slate

09-14-2005, 11:48 AM

Now that i have REALLY tried a Super Joy Power Player, I can say that it is not even worth owning!

It keeps resetting all the time, and there are NOT 12000 games on it - Only about 100! The other 11900 are just differant versions. It was SO BAD that i'm taking mine back to the Grocery Store that i bought it from to get a refund!

Mine Was Sealed, but it was used!

Don't even buy one, It's so worthless and not worth your time.

EricRyan34

10-04-2005, 10:31 PM

I dont really think I hate any system actually. I kinda DISLIKE the Xbox, just because I FEEL like all they care about is making a profit, Thats one of the reasons they are releasing the 360 before the PS3 and the Revolution, thats why I think it will FAIL hhahaha :fist:

zerohero

10-04-2005, 10:41 PM

XBox............... except for a few games.

Gamemaster_ca_2003

10-05-2005, 12:53 AM

I trully HATE only 2 Consoles

XBOX and XBOX360

My reason

The Company that makes the Consoles is Microsoft.

daminmancejin

10-05-2005, 06:22 AM

:angry: XBOX i can't stand that system

syd

10-05-2005, 10:43 AM

The system that comes to mind for me is the Sega Genesis. Now I know a lot of people on these boards love this system and would take it to their grave with them. Maybe I just haven't played the good games that show this system off. But all I remember is going over to my friends house and playing either the first sonic, theme park or mutant league hockey.

While these games weren't all THAT bad, I hated the controller with a passion, and I still do. IMO, the SNES controller was light years ahead of the genesis one. The buttons were just way too big, and there were only 3 or 4 of them on the controllers that I used. I thought this was a huge waste of space when the SNES could easily fit a lot more buttons on a smaller controller.

Then again, perhaps I didn't give this system the chance it deserved. Maybe if I used the controller for a year or so I would get used to it, but as it stands now I don't like the genesis at all.

SeiruKoji

10-05-2005, 10:50 AM

I personally do not like the Atari 5200. Mainly because of the controllers but there also were not a lot of games for it. I liked the 2600 but not the 5200.

Famidrive-16

10-05-2005, 01:54 PM

I hate looking at my 32X. It makes me feel embaressed!

So much hate for all the good things! Too bad I don't have Chaotix.

Slate

10-07-2005, 03:20 PM

Intellivision is the only console that i have not liked.

Why?

In my opinion, The controllers are wierd, The graphics aren't good, And trying to use the controllers is worse.

I like every other console that i have played.

Now that i have bought some more INTV games and played them, I take back what i said about INTV. It is interesting. Once you know how to use the controllers, you can enjoy it.

clawx

12-05-2005, 06:03 PM

N64 for sure. TONS of worthless games made for that system.

The game boy wasn't all that great, either.

Rob of the Sky

12-05-2005, 07:53 PM

I would have to say that I really don't like the Playstation 2. It seems like most of the game that are released on the system are FPS or GTA ripoffs. I know that there are good games for it, but it seems like there are less good games released for it than the Gamecube. And it seems to have worse graphics that the Xbox or Gamecube. It seems like a system full of medocraty.

An old-school system that I don't like is the Atari 5200. While the system was capable of so much more than the 2600, it was plagued by crappy controllers. I'll admit that I've never played an Intellivision or Colecovision, so I don't know much about their controllers. But I have played the 5200, and the crappy controllers make playing it almost impossible.

kidkool

12-05-2005, 08:00 PM

Hmm. Genny. Sorry people. I just always prefered Super mario RPG to Sonic. Now I think I might falter and play more Sonic Adventure 2 though (And PS on the master system)

I might be one of the few people in the world who love the SMS more then the Genny. Alex Kidd is my hero.

Tanis178

12-06-2005, 08:39 AM

Gamecube for me, i just don't get the nintendo feel out of the games or controller and there's no decent online

googlefest1

12-06-2005, 10:11 AM

handheld - gameboy - i realy feel everyone that liked that system over the game gear was brain washed
it dosent stop me from buying them and the games (im a colector after all) but i just dont like it

Console that gets hooked to a TV - Id like to say the NES becasue i like the master system much much more and we'd be in another world if nintendo didnt stop 3rd party developers for makeing and porting games to the lovely SMS - BUT!!! i cant say this -- i have to go with the N64 -- i want to like the system i have 6 of them plus many games --i just think the games look so horrible - i dont understand why people think n64 graphics looks better than saturn and PSX - sure they are smooth but they are so blocky and the details are all washed or smeared looking - the only games i realy have no problem with is mario 64, wave race 64, fzero - sure i can sit down and play a game (which is a rare occurance) but the whole time im playing it i keep asking my self how did this system do so well (brings me back to brain washing :) )

current gen - is the gamecube - i dont hate it - i cant stand the controler so i have a 3rd party one to help with that but there just isnt much to like about it for me - i mostly use mine to play GBA games on a tv screen

luffy744

12-06-2005, 11:31 AM

I've become a bit of a Sega nut over the last 5 years or so. I say "a bit" because I seem to have some irrational hate for the Game Gear and 32X. The 32X is sort of easy to understand; I've played every non-CD game for it, and I didn't even LIKE any of them, much less want to own them. But with there being so few games on the system anyway, it's not really a big loss....

The Game Gear on the other hand.... *gollum mode* we hates it, yesss, we hates it, precious! *gollum mode off*. I just can't stand that system. Horrible, shitty, smeary, blurry screen (maybe it was just mine???), chews through batteries like I do chewing gum (and *6* AA batteries?!), and even with the battery pack I have, it only lasts maybe 2 hours. The battery life effectively makes it a home-only system with a god-awful screen. And if I can only play it at home anyway, I'd *much* rather play a Sega console.

The games... well, to be honest I don't have extensive experience with the games. I recently downloaded a complete rom set for the system to see if I can at least warm myself up to it that way, but out of the couple dozen I've play-tested so far, it looks pretty bleak, even compared to the old B&W gameboy IMO. I keep trying though, since I don't want to hate a Sega system. :(

Tron 2.0

12-18-2005, 03:09 AM

3DO the games for it were too multiemedia for me :P

Jaguar hello, hardly any thrid party suport plus odd joysticks.

Xbox i just wasn't interested in it's line up for games period.

Captain Qb

12-19-2005, 01:53 PM

I think that is Dreamcast..
Only few good games, like Shenmue, Jet Force Gemine, Sonics...
The Control pad sucks, it doesen't look or feel good.
I don't like it, I don't buy it.
But the only reason i would buy Dreamcast,
is Shenmue and Jet Force Gemin.

NESVIDIOT

12-19-2005, 03:09 PM

I was there for the launch of the 2600 and have been into gaming ever since- I can't say I hate any one system because for all the systems I have, there always seems to be some reason for keeping it, even if I never really play it. I guess that is just the collector in me.

The system that I like the least is probably Playstation 1 or 2. Never liked the PS controller design, not comfortable for me, and I really don't like ANY 3rd party controllers. I don't like the graphics in general on PSX. If they could run graphics on the PSX like the Hi-res tracks in Gran Turismo ALL the time and not look like Tomb Raider, where you can't distiguish much in the murky almost monochromatic environments, then it would have ranked better with me. The PS2's problem is similar to that of the launch of CD's. In the beginning CD's were touted as nearly indestructable, until it became evident that even fingerprints and smudges sometimes cause them to skip or freeze, not to mention a scratch. The PS2 was to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, according to all the press that Sony gave it- everywhere. Then the problems began- disc load error- and while there have been problems with other systems in the past- the blinking NES is pretty predominant, I don't think there has ever been a company like Sony to do so little for their customers to remedy the problems. Sony service sucks, I've gotten very little help on any occasion that I've had to call them regarding problems with a PS2. Their stance on most problems that occur with their systems is to find blame elsewhere, it is never a problem with the hardware. Yeah right- poor design IMO.
Of course I still own PSX and PS2- like I said, I always find a reason to keep the systems- there is always at least 1 game that warrents reason to keep the systems.

Of course this is all opinion- and you know what they say about opinion.........

Retsudo

12-22-2005, 08:03 PM

I dont like the N64. I tried, but I just dont like it. The controller put the nail in the coffin for me.

I dont like the Intellivision. I still have the one I got back in 1981. I havent played it since 1984, and dont ever plan on playing it ever again.

I dont like the Sega CD. I have one because someone sold it to me for 10 bucks with 9 games. Including Snatcher complete. I gave it a shot and just didnt like it.

vahn401

12-22-2005, 08:26 PM

Xbox has never done it for me. I havn't sworn legiance to nintendo or sony, its just that when Xbox came into the gaming arena, I never wanted to give it a chance. And now looking back, the only thing i really cared about that came out on xbox is the halo games. Everything else that seemed to catch my interest was also released on a different system. This may change in the future though, with the 360 and all, I do throw out there that the wireless 360 controllers are some of the most comfortable controllers out there. And depending on how Ps3 looks, i may have to switch to 360, but as of right now, normal xbox just never did it for me.

rxd

12-25-2005, 10:13 AM

For me I'd have to say the Colecovision. It's not that I hate it, it's just that I don't see what the big deal is. Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge fan of classic videogame systems since my first 2600 when I was young. I still have my original 5200 I bought when it first came out when I was in college. It's just that everyone keeps saying Colecovision is the best of the classic systems and yet it's the one I play the least. Alot of the games seem weaker the more you play them and the real "Arcade Quality" ports are of obscure and not really that good games. I'd take my 5200 over the Colecovision anyday. Plus Colecovisions controllers really annoy me, alot more than the 5200's. But at least the Colecovision's controllers don't break all the time. Thank god for Best Electronics goldplated 5200 controllers. At least that major annoyance is now gone...

aaronpetrosky

06-04-2006, 05:37 PM

N64- I hated everything about it, and still do to this day.

Carey85

06-11-2006, 07:05 PM

At one time I would've said N64, it took me years to warm up to that system, but after buying the stellar titles after the "death" of the system, I've changed my mind about it. As of now, I would probably have to say the Odyssey^2. There is just nothing to like about the system, in my opinion. Honorable mention goes to the Intellivision, but Burgertime is that system's saving grace.

OldSchoolGamer

06-11-2006, 07:50 PM

3D0..........yes it has an awesome version of Road Rash and Street Fighter but really I got one a while back as well as a lot of titles. I always wanted one but of course originally it was to expensive. Between the long load times and the titles it's my opinion that it was not the price that made 3D0 a failure, it was the crappy titles, really I have more fun with even 16-bit nintendo titles...........................

RetroYoungen

06-12-2006, 06:43 PM

Hmm... I hate the Game.com. Not so much for JUST the feel, or JUST the games themselves, but for the idea that, for some weird reason, I was looking FORWARD to buying and playing one.

I wasted fifty bucks on that piece of crap, and it's the only system in history I was happy with the destruction of. The batteries corrhoded in mine, and I had a reason to throw it away.

ROBOTNIK666

06-14-2006, 12:25 PM

One system I don't really like is the Odyssey 2 because 75% of the games suck eggs. I have no idea what possessed Magnavox to run this against Atari.

cmislin

08-18-2006, 03:08 AM

Yeah the intellivision those controllers are a pain maybe somebody more intelligent should have made it

AlexKidd

08-20-2006, 01:02 AM

i'm gonna go with the nintendo 64 on this one. a few reasons : not enough good games in general
one of the worst controllers in awhile
lots of bad, foggy 3d
barely any 2d games
lousy 3rd party support

i don't completely hate it though, i like all of the mario games, zelda:ocarina of time , cruisin' 64, f-zero, and the 4 controller ports make it a nice multiplayer system.

i basically think it just sucks compared to the saturn and psx.

TheBaron

09-17-2006, 04:18 AM

I would say N64 also... I have some of the good games for it (marios / zeldas etc) but just never feel an urge to play it.

When it first came out I was dedicated to my saturn.. so I never really took notice. I only bought one because they are just so darn cheap / common these days

mnbren05

09-21-2007, 04:21 PM

For all the N64 haters I say unto you, "Atleast the controller makes more sense than the mess Atari released for the Jaguar." The N64 atleast has some weight and feels like a real controller. The Jaguar's controllers feels light weight, cheap, and bulky. I can play for hours with the N64 but the Jag controller was horrendous. I will also say that I cannot stand the Intellivision. Bad library of games in my opinion.

tritium

09-21-2007, 06:13 PM

The n64 is fine. The saturn I havent had enough experience with, but that digital controller and SF alpha 2 made the system for me. I worship the dreamcast, had good times with snes and nes. Genesis Is one of my favorite toys. 2600 is good and i have fond memories with (joust ftw!) I've never played intellivision. 32x is an interesting historical peice mk2 on it is good, chaotix is weird. So that pretty much covers what everone else has talked about.

Why does everyone love the segacd. I've bought and sold it 4 times in the past 5 years. I've tried a dozen games (and if someone mentions the travesty that is sonic-cd so help me ...) I really tried to like it. I mean I have fvm games i've liked (adventure games for pc, wtf were they thinking with segacd?) but nothing on the sega-cd has made it worthwhile in any way shape or form.

(I'm up for being converted if someone can prove its value to me, i'll put in the money to get another one)

grolt

09-22-2007, 09:16 PM

Even if there are a number of games on it that I really like, I think the PS2 is a terrible system.

In my experience, the PS2 is by far the most defective system - nearly everyone I know has had problems loading discs or DVDs, and many of the first generation ones have conked out since. Considering my original NES, or my other older disc systems like the Saturn and the PSX still work flawlessly, it's just not acceptable to have to get three brand new systems because of defective parts. This is all the more laughable since when the PS2 was announced, its specs were exaggerated to the point where it made the Dreamcast look weak. My DC works fine, and really, the graphic differences are negligible. Yet even my newest PS2 is still an unreliable piece of shikaka.

Night Driver

09-23-2007, 01:37 PM

Of all the systems I've played, I'd have to say the SMS was my least favorite.

grolt

09-23-2007, 02:35 PM

Of all the systems I've played, I'd have to say the SMS was my least favorite.
Wow, really? Have you tried WONDER BOY IN MONSTER LAND, PHANTASY STAR, PENGUIN LAND, SHINOBI, ALEX KIDD IN MIRACLE WORLD, ZILLION, SAFARI HUNT, SPACE HARRIER or any of the 3D games? There's a plethora of good stuff, and the system itself is a Cadillac compared to the NES!

Pantechnicon

09-24-2007, 12:19 PM

The one system I simply cannot stand is the SNES.

The SNES was released in 1991, which was a year wherein I found myself doing very little gaming. My beloved Atari 2600, which I would have been happy to keep playing, had been lost to me for about three years. I had a Gameboy, but couldn’t always afford the newest releases. I was indifferent to Sega and every other system that was considered “new” back then and perceived the Nintendo Corporation to be this evil hegemony that was responsible for everything that, in my mind, had gone “wrong” with videogames since the year 1984. I projected this animosity onto the SNES and never really got over it.

I’m the first person to admit that this makes no sense, especially in light of the fact that now I own and like every other system Nintendo has released (I’m even a huge fan of the Virtual Boy). But I just can’t get over that lingering vitriol I feel towards the SNES.

108Stars

09-25-2007, 04:49 AM

I don´t like the N64 and the Sega Saturn. For both I expected great things and what really came was damn mediocre imho.

ApolloBoy

09-25-2007, 12:18 PM

I can't really get into the Odyssey 2. When I first bought one I was kinda hoping it'd be worthwhile, but most of the games are boring IMO, and now I'm trying to get rid of it. The only problem is finding someone who wants an O2, which is pretty hard.

Another system that I'm not really so hot about it is the Intellivision. I've entertained thoughts of selling it, but I'll wait until get more worthwhile games and an Intellivoice, and then I'll decide if I want to keep it or not.

otaku

09-25-2007, 08:32 PM

I've yet to own a system I didn't like/enjoy sure some I liked more than others and some will be somewhat forgotten but none hated. Now systems I haven't owned that I hate are too numerous...game.com, ngage, jaguar, etc etc

FlufflePuff

09-28-2007, 12:13 AM

ApolloBoy

10-04-2007, 03:13 AM

I honestly have never been a fan of the Dreamcast. There are so few exclusive games on it that I enjoyed and I despise the controller. There are a few titles that are good, but for a system with so much potential I just get upset when I think about how it crashed.

I've never really understood the deal about the Dreamcast either (and the Saturn, to an extent). But then again, I've never really been that much into any post-SNES system to begin with.

Steve W

10-04-2007, 04:59 PM

I bought an N64 to play Tetrisphere (because it was originally destined to be a Jaguar exclusive), but I ended up hating the machine. Nintendo's engineers need to be flogged for the controller design.

nate1749

10-07-2007, 05:04 AM

3d0, i really want to like it, but every game i try is just so awful.

Barbarianoutkast85

10-11-2007, 08:36 PM

I really dislike the Virtual Boy and the R-Zone. Now the Panasonic 3DO, Atari Jaguar, and the Atari Lynx I dont hate as much but I certainly dont love them either.

jwm2

10-13-2007, 06:09 PM

For me it would have to be the wii and ps3, both consoles have big problems.

Nitrosport

10-19-2007, 12:27 AM

I absolutely HATE the game.com. HATE IT! All its games suck, even the more adult games suck. The screen is also cheap and could have been better. Ever since I bought it, it's been sitting in my closet.

Dreamcast

10-19-2007, 08:07 AM

Wow, really? Have you tried WONDER BOY IN MONSTER LAND, PHANTASY STAR, PENGUIN LAND, SHINOBI, ALEX KIDD IN MIRACLE WORLD, ZILLION, SAFARI HUNT, SPACE HARRIER or any of the 3D games? There's a plethora of good stuff, and the system itself is a Cadillac compared to the NES!

Agreed.

I love the Dreamcast

I hate the 360. Every one loves the systems that break.

PS3 FTW.

"I do not want to argue."

Kamisama

10-23-2007, 10:30 AM

I somehow dislike the 3DO. Like none of the games (and it's not like the aren't any) appeal to me. Also the system itself is not my taste. dunno :s

8bitgamer

10-26-2007, 09:59 PM

I never could warm to the Nintendo 64. Fuzzy 3D graphics. Bulky controllers. A wonky joystick. Too many Mario 64 knockoffs.

Classic Home Video Games 1972-1984 (http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Home-Video-Games-1972-1984/dp/0786432268/ref=sr_1_1/102-4833994-2708962?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180844138&sr=8-1)

heybtbm

10-29-2007, 02:19 PM

retrogamer88

11-04-2007, 10:03 PM

The Game Boy Color. You could barely see anything without the right amount of light, and the right angle it had to shine on the screen. Everything was small and hard to see. And it had mostly bad games. That's my opinion. Don't take it too serious, or...

:bad-words::rockets:

Rob2600

11-13-2007, 04:08 PM

I don't understand why so many of you hate the Nintendo 64.

Controller:
The first time I used the N64's controller, I didn't have any problems at all and didn't need to spend time getting used to it. It felt comfortable and natural.

Cartridges:
Yes, on average, N64 games debuted at $10 higher than PlayStation games. I never saw that as a big deal because N64 games had far less loading time than PlayStation games and, usually, better graphics. In addition, N64 games were far less fragile than PlayStation games.

For gamers who loved spending a large chunk of their gaming time watching non-interactive FMV, the PlayStation was great. For gamers who loved spending a large chunk of their gaming time waiting for levels to load, the PlayStation was great. For gamers who loved spending a large chunk of their gaming time turning their consoles upside down trying to get them to work, the PlayStation was great. However, for gamers who didn't want to wait and just wanted to have fun, the N64 was great, especially with friends and family.

Graphics:
Some people complain that N64 games had blurry graphics. Fine...but what about PlayStation and Saturn games? They had blocky, pixelated graphics. It was one or the other. To me, the N64's antialiased graphics were far more preferable to the PlayStation's pixelated mess.

For every N64 game that looked blurry, I can name one that looked amazing for its time (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark, Donkey Kong 64, NFL Quarterback Club '99, etc.). There were even some N64 games that approached Dreamcast quality (Conker's Bad Fur Day, Wave Race 64, Mortal Kombat 4, Rayman 2: The Great Escape, All Star Baseball 2000, etc.).

namzep

11-13-2007, 04:27 PM

When I first picked it up, the original Playstation. The selection of games at launch was god awful. I really didn't start to like it until I picked up Tony Hawk (years after it first came out) and Medievil.

Frankie_Says_Relax

11-13-2007, 06:00 PM

I'll go on record for not liking the Nintendo 64. I (foolishly) got a N64 before a Playstation or Saturn. I received the system during Christmas of 1996, played Mario 64 to death and waited and waited and waited for another decent game.

The N64 has a few obvious classics, but overall the system was the biggest dissappointment in my personal gaming history. No RPG's, outrageously expensive cartridges, fuzzy graphics and a goofy controller.

Agreed.

While there are a few N64 games that I absolutely adore (Goldeneye64, Beetle Adventure Racing, the AKI WCW/WWE games, etc.) ... overall, I think it was an awful last gasp attempt at a home cartridge gaming system.

One of my favorite video game history books is "Game Over" - if you haven't read it - it's a very non-biased account of how Nintendo re-vitalized the game industry in the US, and on the topic of the N64, allegedly Miyamoto and company designed Mario 64 on some high powered (at the time) development computers, and told the rest of the company "build the N64's hardware around the requirements for this game".

Looking back on the system's library - I think that that alleged story makes a lot of sense, as most of the high-end games for the system are the ones that utilize similar game physics, graphics, and play mechanics as Mario 64.

I don't "HATE" the system, but as far as Nintendo's console history goes, it's my least favorite, and the biggest disappointment. And it probably has the smallest library of "classics" that don't look, feel, or play dated right now.

Rob2600

11-13-2007, 06:05 PM

it probably has the smallest library of "classics" that don't look, feel, or play dated right now.

I think that honor should go to the Atari 2600 or the PlayStation.

Frankie_Says_Relax

11-13-2007, 06:18 PM

I think that honor should go to the Atari 2600 or the PlayStation.

Well, 2600 had games that looked "dated" upon their initial release (2600 Pac-Man) ...

... but in a sheer numbers game (I did say "smallest library"), I'd go out on a limb and say that PS1 edges out N64 in having games in it's library that still can stand side-by-side with contemporary games of the same development cost/cycle/production quality/graphics quality (ie, the kinds of things you'd find on XBL or PSN like PixelJunk Racers, Everyday Shooter, UNO, Geometry Wars) if for no other reason the fact that the PS1's software library eclipses the N64's.

Developers didn't really want to take the time and spend the money in a development cycle to make small niche'y games for the N64...not to the same degree that they did on PS1.

tom

11-16-2007, 09:11 AM

anything post Magnavox Odyssey (1972), they are just pale comparisons to the original.

...

Joe West

11-16-2007, 09:06 PM

The system i dont like is the One I Dont Own.............................

RadiantSvgun

11-17-2007, 12:39 PM

I would have to say the NEO GEO CD. The loading times frustrate me to no end. But I kinda want one.

Other than that, it was the N64. I remember trading in a lot of my good SNES games as a kid to get one. And I was disappointed in the long run.

alice_curiouser

12-03-2007, 08:01 PM

The Playstaytion, in any of its incarnations. I don't like the slow-loading CDs, and I hate the graphics.

ssjlance

12-04-2007, 07:41 PM

Mine has to be the Odyssey2 or the Jaguar. Both have really bad games with few exceptions (K.C. Munchkin and Tempest 2000, respectfully) and terrible controllers.

A system I used to hate was the Playstation. That all changed when I bought Alundra :) Then I got Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy VII and now I love it.

FrakAttack

12-04-2007, 07:57 PM

Lynx, purely for lack of good titles. Coulda been such a beautiful thing...:(

Rob2600

12-05-2007, 01:04 AM

Lynx, purely for lack of good titles. Coulda been such a beautiful thing...:(

My parents bought a Lynx for me in 1990, which I wanted instead of a Game Boy. I was impressed with some of the games (California Games, Klax, Electrocop, Ninja Gaiden, etc.), but the battery life was horrible. It would've made a great home console though.

IronBuddha

12-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Nintendo 64

Shit controllers and besides smash bros.,Perfect Dark and Goldeneye I didn't like their library of games.

parker619

12-11-2007, 04:18 PM

me too i would have to go with the n64,, some people might praise it for games like no mercy goldeneye,mario banjo, and stuff like that but apart from them look at the other games ,, and the ways you have to hold the controller

Trevelyan

01-12-2008, 01:01 AM

I don't like the look of the virtual boy. I peered into one a shop had imported back in the mid 90's, it seemed cool back then, but i dont think i could spend much time playing on one today.

mnbren05

01-12-2008, 01:48 AM

Well I will say that the Jaguar in my opinion is just hideous visually (I still have nightmares about the god forsaken controllers) and the games were lack luster and boring (and Atari's marketing certianly did not help at all). I would also add 3DO and Saturn to the list of systems I just cannot get into.

Dreamc@sting

01-12-2008, 08:47 PM

I will agree that the CD-I is a horrible system, but because I never personally owned it I can't say much. The 3DO on the other hand..is one system I would leave in the dust. I owned one...now the controller, didnt bother me, there was nothing wrong with it, but the games themselves...I cannot recollect any games on the system that were remotely close to playable, except for the ones that ended up on the playstation.

3DO is one console which will never find a welcomed home in my house - sorry to all the die hard 3DO collectors out there, nothing against you!

SeGaFiEnD

01-17-2008, 05:53 PM

this is all trivial. All systems have good and bad points(some worst than others). to say coleco, genesis, and atari suck is just plain crazy. it seems 15 year olds hate coleco, how shocking. I could see why young people cant fully get into old systems. to someone like me who is in his mid 30's' i appreciate every system for the leap in technology. I own almost every system. i am always playing and appreciating every single one. Today a little 3do and genesis

g2000

02-14-2008, 05:10 AM

I think the only system that I don't like because of the poor play would be the famous & amazing 64 bit Atari Jaguare.... Horrible system!!... I think I'm going to drop it off at goodwill pretty soon. :)

Frankie_Says_Relax

02-14-2008, 05:27 AM

Hate is too strong an emotion to direct at an inanimate object ...

I don't think there has ever been a system with absolutely ZERO titles worth playing.

Even though I regularly get "frustrated" (and in some cases speak out about said frustration) over hardware, software, creative moves, corporate decisions, delays, cancellations and so on and so forth for every system since PONG ... there's always been something worth trying on (and in most cases enjoying) ... and I can't think of any console or portable that I'd go so far as to say I "hate".

Plus, we all know the reason why people "hate" in a public forum ... it's a lot easier to find solidarity in a group of people who have similar "hatreds" than it is to openly accept people who have divergent interests or challenge the way you might think (even when it comes to a hobby as seemingly innocuous as Video Games) ... I mean, just ask any card carrying member of the Nazi party if they hate people of the Jewish faith and they'll likely say "Scheißt ein Bär im Holz?"

NoahsMyBro

02-17-2008, 11:51 PM

I'd have to agree with everything Frankie said so eloquently.

With that understood, I'll have to pick the Colecovision as the single console I never saw any redeeming qualities in. :-D

After longing for a Colecovision for 15 years or so, when I finally got one I tried to play Donkey Kong and the controllers were so awful I abandoned playing the system after about 30 minutes and never looked back. I can't believe so many people accept these, and complain about the 5200's sticks. (But what do I know - I really, really like the 5200, and I think the Jag's not nearly as bad as it's frequently made out to be!)

I do have to admit though, I played Spy Hunter on the CV for a few minutes at an early Philly Classic, and it wasn't bad.

Hate is too strong an emotion to direct at an inanimate object ...

I don't think there has ever been a system with absolutely ZERO titles worth playing.

Even though I regularly get "frustrated" (and in some cases speak out about said frustration) over hardware, software, creative moves, corporate decisions, delays, cancellations and so on and so forth for every system since PONG ... there's always been something worth trying on (and in most cases enjoying) ... and I can't think of any console or portable that I'd go so far as to say I "hate".

Plus, we all know the reason why people "hate" in a public forum ... it's a lot easier to find solidarity in a group of people who have similar "hatreds" than it is to openly accept people who have divergent interests or challenge the way you might think (even when it comes to a hobby as seemingly innocuous as Video Games) ... I mean, just ask any card carrying member of the Nazi party if they hate people of the Jewish faith and they'll likely say "Scheißt ein Bär im Holz?"

thetoxicone

02-18-2008, 03:14 AM

I have never been a huge playstation fan, since the one I got originally had the overheating problems and had to be played upside-down to make it semi-work. I have finally started getting back in playstation games since I got a ps2 but I still will try to get a game for another system first even if I means losing some video or graphic quality (when getting a game for n64).

tag274

03-03-2008, 11:45 AM

The console that has never really done it for me is the Odyssey 2 bought one ages ago and its never fit in :(

Famidrive-16

03-03-2008, 08:00 PM

I really can't find anything good about the 32X I owned. It came with a box of 2600 games I bought several years back and I just don't feel like using it. I don't think it even came with all the needed cords.

I'm too scared to touch a Virtual Boy, especially after that AVGN review.

EDIT: Do certain variations count? I hated the Game Boy Pocket, it ate up batteries like crazy.

Drakon

03-04-2008, 07:55 PM

the NES. Because you have to keep replacing those pin things. Also the famicom...because it's just THAT UGLY

Smashed Brother

05-02-2008, 08:42 PM

The system that really never appealed to me was the N64. I was in love with my PS1 at the time, but like everybody else, I was completely blown away by Mario 64. However, when I saw that there was little else to offer, my brief infatuation with the system fell to the wayside and I moved on.

I have freely acquired 2 of these systems and gave both of them away. First of all, the controller looked and felt like it was manufactured in a third-world country, after a robot had puked on it. Second, the blurry wish-wash graphics prevalent in almost all of the games were very unappealing to me. Speaking of the games, besides Mario and Zelda (which I had been playing since the NES days), what else was there? Very few RPG's, shitty fighting games (a big problem, for me anyways) and almost no 2D games (all I can think of is Bangai-O at the moment). The Saturn had awesome 2D games, the Playstation was breaking new ground with games like MGS and the Dreamcast was kicking down my door with better-than-arcade home versions of games like Soul Calibur.

People I know still defend this system like it was the greatest thing since tossed salad. I just call it 'nostalgia'... to me, it contributed nothing to gaming except for the analog stick.

Cloud121

05-02-2008, 09:05 PM

Super Famicom. Don't get me wrong, it has a few good games (Super Metroid is the single greatest game ever made), but the MegaDrive has so much more, same with Nintendo's other consoles. Though I do own an surprisingly amount of SFC games (30 - 40). The smallest part of my collection, after Saturn (26), 32X (14), and Mega CD (9). I like to count my MD/MCD/32X collection as one though. So we're at 130 for that.

Anyway, the SFC easily Nintendo's worst console, and the MegaDrive kicked it's ass. Factor in the Mega CD and 32X, and it's simply no contest.

Nintendo's best console is/was a toss-up between N64 and The Cube. I like the NES quite a bit, but it's just about even with the Master System. Though as hardcore of a Sega nut as I am, I will admit the N64 does have just a slight edge over the Saturn. Then again, I love all five fifth generation consoles just about equally.

Though I will give Nintendo some credit, my two all-time favorite games are exclusive to their consoles. Super Metroid, and P.N. 03.

I think the only system that I don't like because of the poor play would be the famous & amazing 64 bit Atari Jaguare.... Horrible system!!... I think I'm going to drop it off at goodwill pretty soon. :)
You could just give it to me. :) I've been wanting a Jaguar for years, and hope to be getting one in the next few weeks.

ApolloBoy

05-03-2008, 02:42 AM

Anyway, the SFC easily Nintendo's worst console, and the MegaDrive kicked it's ass.

o_O

Um, what?

Rob2600

05-03-2008, 03:42 AM

The system that really never appealed to me was the N64. I was in love with my PS1 at the time, but like everybody else, I was completely blown away by Mario 64. However, when I saw that there was little else to offer, my brief infatuation with the system fell to the wayside and I moved on.

...

besides Mario and Zelda (which I had been playing since the NES days), what else was there? Very few RPG's, shitty fighting games (a big problem, for me anyways) and almost no 2D games (all I can think of is Bangai-O at the moment). The Saturn had awesome 2D games, the Playstation was breaking new ground with games like MGS and the Dreamcast was kicking down my door with better-than-arcade home versions of games like Soul Calibur.

More than a year before the PlayStation "broke ground" with Metal Gear Solid, there was Goldeneye 007 on the N64.

The N64 also had very highly rated WWF and WCW wrestling games and the highly rated All-Star Baseball series. What else? The Banjo-Kazooie games, Blast Corps, Space Station Silicon Valley, 1080 Snowboarding, Wave Race 64, Ogre Battle 64, etc.

For 2D games, try Mischief Makers, Yoshi's Story, and Goemon's Great Adventure. If you're up for it, import Rakuga Kids and Wonder Project J2, one of the most impressive-looking 2D games ever made.

to me, it contributed nothing to gaming except for the analog stick.

And texture filtering, the Rumble Pak, four built-in controller ports, and really fun games like Mario Kart 64, The New Tetris, and again, Goldeneye 007.

Smashed Brother

05-03-2008, 04:13 AM

More than a year before the PlayStation "broke ground" with Metal Gear Solid, there was Goldeneye 007 on the N64.

Are those the floodgates that I hear breaking? I agree for the most part about what you say as you make some valid points.

Goldeneye was a great game with some interesting concepts to it. Mario Kart was decent fun, especially with multiple players. But Goldeneye was just a main course 1st person shooter with all the trimmings and I've been shooting shells and tossing banana peels at fools since the SNES days. Games like MGS, while technically not the first game of it's kind, offered something new and exciting in not only it's gameplay but also in its' narrative. Something like this would've been difficult to replicate on the N64.

When I say 2D, I mean good ol-fashioned sprites and pixels. The Saturn was awesome at this. The chaos of Guardian Heroes immediately springs to mind. Yoshi's Story, while somewhat pretty, is not even comparable, graphically or gameplay-wise to something like Yoshi's Island, a game from a previous generation. I'll definitely look into your recommendations, though, as I've barely even heard of these games.

While much as been said about the gee-whiz special effects that the PS1, Saturn and N64 have brought to the table, we just have to face the fact that PC gamers with high-end systems have been enjoying these graphical treats way before we knew what a filtered texture was.

Rob2600

05-03-2008, 12:45 PM

Goldeneye was a great game with some interesting concepts to it. Mario Kart was decent fun, especially with multiple players. But Goldeneye was just a main course 1st person shooter with all the trimmings and I've been shooting shells and tossing banana peels at fools since the SNES days.

You forgot one thing: not only was Goldeneye 007 an intelligent, perfectly designed first-person shooter, but it also featured one of the most well-remembered multiplayer modes ever.

Multiplayer was one of the N64's best features. Goldeneye 007, Mario Kart 64, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, highly-rated wrestling games, The New Tetris, Bust-a-Move '99, etc. So many games featured fun four-player modes.

When I say 2D, I mean good ol-fashioned sprites and pixels. The Saturn was awesome at this. The chaos of Guardian Heroes immediately springs to mind. Yoshi's Story, while somewhat pretty, is not even comparable, graphically or gameplay-wise to something like Yoshi's Island, a game from a previous generation. I'll definitely look into your recommendations, though, as I've barely even heard of these games.

In Mischief Makers, some levels are strictly 2D sprites and 2D backgrounds, while other levels are a combination of 2D sprites and 3D polygons. It was developed by Treasure, so of course the boss battles are great.

Goemon's Great Adventure is 2D gameplay with 3D polygon graphics. It's a great game though and features two player co-op.

I agree with you about Yoshi's Story. It features some amazing high-res 2D graphics, some giant sprites, and cool effects like rippling reflections in the water, but overall, I prefer the art direction and gameplay in Yoshi's Island.

Rakuga Kids is a strange, stylized 2D fighting game released in Japan. It looks cool, but it might not be your thing. Wonder Project J2 is a strange game with tons of Japanese text and voices, so you might not get very far in it, but the 2D graphics and animation are TV quality. I bought it in the late 1990s because it was very cheap and I was blown away by the visuals.

While much as been said about the gee-whiz special effects that the PS1, Saturn and N64 have brought to the table, we just have to face the fact that PC gamers with high-end systems have been enjoying these graphical treats way before we knew what a filtered texture was.

Not necessarily. I watched videos of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire for Windows and the textures were severely pixellated, while videos of the same levels in the N64 version feature smooth, filtered textures.

And again, in 1996, a high-end computer system was more than $2,000. The N64 was $200 and produced comparable graphics.

vectrexer

05-03-2008, 02:35 PM

Every consosle has it gem. But by and large I really dislike the CD and DVD based consoles. Call me an idiot but the quick reset of the cart based systems turns me on like no PS3 can. The games are great, I just hate the startup and level switching times

I think we will eventually return to non-optical systems when the production price and speed of various memory comes down, or when games are stored totaly on the net and save state is restored at boot. Yes, even on the consoles.

With all this stated I still bought a Wii for the family. I even stayed up for 36 hours playing SMG over New Year's just to show the kids I can whip their butts, and to enjoy having my daughter be the second player. But I don't play the Wii much.