The Things you hate most about Microsoft [Archive]

chicnstu

06-18-2009, 11:16 AM

You might regret making this topic, there are a lot of 360 fans here.

I don't hate any of the 3 companies, but they sure have done some things that have added up to made me think I hate them.

Microsoft:

The games are great but I don't like the 360 console.

-It has one of the worst names of any system ever made (I would probably put TurboGrafx as the worst) and I honestly think it's very ugly. Though neither of those points change how the games play.
-Poorly made, you buy it, play games on it for a year, then suddenly it whips out it's RRoD and smacks you in the face.
-The controller feels very durable but the A/B/X/Y/RB/LB/Guide buttons and D-Pad feel like something from a cheap phone, they don't feel suitable for games.

Sony:

-I used to hate the quality of their products, breaking down within a year. Looks like they've fixed that.

Nintendo:

-I want compilation games like Capcom and Sega does, I don't want to buy each classic game individually for $30 (or $5-$10 on VC). But, I'm sure if Capcom and Sega had a console they would do the same thing.

TheDomesticInstitution

06-18-2009, 11:18 AM

"OH NOEZ IT ONLEE WERKS OWN EXPEE.

Wow, they must have some pretty poor spellers that program those error messages.

DigitalSpace

06-18-2009, 11:31 AM

The one thing that annoys me the most about Microsoft's gaming division is the reliability of the 360. After that, it's the 360's lack of full backwards compatibility with the original Xbox.

Porksta

06-18-2009, 11:33 AM

If you want to play Xbox games, get an Xbox. All BC does is limit the technology on the current system.

shopkins

06-18-2009, 11:52 AM

The one thing I hate? The factor I've tried downloading Pac Man World 2 and it keeps going "OH NOEZ IT ONLEE WERKS OWN EXPEE", and the factor that there's no option to set original Xbox games to widescreen on a 360.

I don't even understand the first one, but I'm not sure the second one is right. Doom III works in Widescreen for me.

I don't have any reason to hate them. There are some things I wish they'd do different, like making all original XBox games BC, providing built-in Wi Fi and making their systems less prone to breakdowns, but otherwise their stuff has provided me with some very nice gaming experiences.

I guess the most annoying thing about Microsoft is that for some reason it causes so many fanboys to seethe with inexplicable, irrational rage. That gets old.

Oobgarm

06-18-2009, 11:55 AM

I hate how they make people want to post stupid topics like this one.

jcalder8

06-18-2009, 12:42 PM

I hate how they make people want to post stupid topics like this one.
I hate that you stole my idea for a post.

MegaDrive20XX

06-18-2009, 01:01 PM

If you want to play Xbox games, get an Xbox. All BC does is limit the technology on the current system.

That's what I did. Best $40 I ever spent!

super nes

06-18-2009, 01:08 PM

you know what i hate having to stand up and walk my lazy ass all the way to my snes just to turn it on hopefully one day in the future they will add a button to the controller that turns systems on by themselves.

skaar

06-18-2009, 01:10 PM

I hate how they make people start multiple threads about the same damn problem.

scooterb23

06-18-2009, 01:27 PM

You know what I hate most about Microsoft? I hate that whole URNOTE campaign. What the hell was that all about? And the iPod? Come on. Screw you Microsoft.

The Shawn

06-18-2009, 03:02 PM

I hate the green beans they give you in microwave frozen dinners. No matter how long you cook them their alway's still crunchy...

Microsoft my ass.

Berserker

06-18-2009, 04:04 PM

I hate pretty much everything Microsoft does in the computer world, but in the video game world it's a very different story. Overall, I think they did a pretty good job. People like to hate them because of the failure rates, but they extended the warranty for three years, for free. I think that perhaps the gravity of such a move is mostly lost on people now that we're so acclimated to it, but I try not to forget the gesture.

All things considered, they could have been much more evil about it, like trying to tack on some sort of "Extended Warranty Buy-in Fee" or something, but they didn't. They did exactly what a company with billions of dollars on-hand should have done in that particular situation, in terms of what was best for the customer rather than their wallet, and it makes me want to continue supporting them, at least on the video game side of things.

alexkidd2000

06-18-2009, 04:37 PM

Hate: RROD, Giant Power Brick, Shitty Dpad, too noisy.

Love: Affordable, Online experience, Easy to hack :)

Chadt74

06-18-2009, 05:48 PM

Recent 360 owner, and I don't know what there is to hate about MSoft?!?

Your machine breaks (if it is within 3 years) they pay to send it back to them and fix it. New 1 yr warranty. Also the website is very robust for tracking the your machine and customer service is very friendly (my experience).

Yes they make/made a flawed product, but they did not cover it up and they are trying to do the right thing. At this point I think we all know what we are getting when we buy a non-Jasper 360 (kinda like cigs but without the warning!).

I am not a fan boy and have probably 100 more PS games than MS games, but few companies have responded so well to a major defect/issue, so I give them their due.

CosmicMonkey

06-18-2009, 06:30 PM

Hate? Nah, I have much better things to do with my time. At the end of the day, Bill Gates and the M$ Board of Directors are businessmen. They're there to make money by running a successful profitable company.

I really, really dislike Windows therefore I just don't use the damn thing; I only use it when I really have to. I prefer Apple's stunning hardware designs and OS, and the way everything just works how it should. I do have Win7 x64 installed on the Mac Pro though and everything seems fine for running Visual C#.

The Xbox 360 hardware is just shocking and a very costly embarrassment to the company. Yeah, it may have the games but everyone in the world knows that 360s RRoD.

I use M$ Office 2008 Mac on a daily basis to organise my entire life. It syncs perfectly with my iPhone and does everything I need it to do all in one application. There are some slight annoyances with Mac Office, but overall I really like it; I've been using it since the '04 version.

I also have to give the company huge credit for the entire XNA Game Studio programme. What Sony started with PlayStation Yaroze has evolved into so much more through XNA on the 360 and I think it's a really good thing.

The 1 2 P

06-18-2009, 07:30 PM

I hate how Microsoft didn't add a "2" or "Super" to the title of their second console. How dare them add a "3" in "360" when this isn't even their third system:confused:

Icarus Moonsight

06-19-2009, 09:08 AM

You know what I hate most about Microsoft? I hate that whole URNOTE campaign. What the hell was that all about? And the iPod? Come on. Screw you Microsoft.

You forgot the Virtual Boy! For shame. LOL

ButtonMasher123

06-19-2009, 10:57 AM

scooterb23

06-19-2009, 01:24 PM

You forgot the Virtual Boy! For shame. LOL

I actually liked the Virtual Boy. But Microsoft does suck for making Mario 3D, and then brainwashing everyone into thinking it was a good game.

kupomogli

06-19-2009, 02:26 PM

I hate Microsoft since, according to Chad Warden, the 360 isn't ballin'. It's like a circle, and we're not doing geometry, we're trying to play some games.

graciano1337

06-19-2009, 03:06 PM

I guess the most annoying thing about Microsoft is that for some reason it causes so many fanboys to seethe with inexplicable, irrational rage. That gets old.

i believe you just defined a fanboy. ROFL

Richter Belmount

06-19-2009, 03:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIxfk3hS0uU
the thing I hate most about microsoft is the bing commercials.

I didnt know tim and eric worked for microsoft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHobySO-Bw

Vkmies

06-19-2009, 05:04 PM

The consoles are so crappy! buy them only for solid contollers and halo, but i had both the orignal XboX and the 360, both had something wrong with them and died less than 5 years... Just stopped reading games.

tom

06-19-2009, 05:08 PM

Microsoft http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/thomasholzer/Microsoft_Bob.jpg

djbeatmongrel

06-19-2009, 05:16 PM

My mom made me mad tonight
I asked for Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but she got French. Not the same thing!

BydoEmpire

06-19-2009, 05:17 PM

I hate that NXE defaults to "what's new with Xbox." I don't care. Just take me to my damn games. It's not really that big of a deal, but it's annoying.

kupomogli

06-19-2009, 05:49 PM

Oh yeah. The new 360 dashboard. They had a perfectly fine dashboard previously which I actually liked more than the XMB. Why screw up something that didn't need fixing to try and copy Nintendo and add all this lame bullshit we don't want to see?

Battlehork

06-19-2009, 05:51 PM

I hate how they make me add microsoft points in predetermined amounts instead being able to pay for the exact amount I want. I have to buy points in 500 point increments when the games are priced at 400, 800, and 1200 points? Brilliant Job Microsoft!

I'll take that one step further and complain about how we have to buy Itchy and Scratchy money at all instead of just paying for the games denominated with real currency.

Enigmus

06-19-2009, 08:03 PM

I also hate how they've gone through 3 revisions, yet the 360 STILL craps out after 2 or 3 years. It must be an intentional thing Gates uses to make more money or something. :rockets:

Therealqtip

06-19-2009, 08:04 PM

how corrupted they are.

Enigmus

06-19-2009, 08:07 PM

how corrupted they are.

I agree. Let's go complain in a flash mob outside Gates' house! LOL

Sudo

06-19-2009, 08:52 PM

Shitty controller and NXE. That's about it.

Richter Belmount

06-19-2009, 08:53 PM

My mom made me mad tonight
I asked for Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but she got French. Not the same thing!

Throws meat in your mashed potatoes.

Solertia

06-19-2009, 09:47 PM

ITT: QQ moar

Tron 2.0

06-19-2009, 10:50 PM

Hate: RROD, Giant Power Brick, Shitty Dpad, too noisy.

Love: Affordable, Online experience, Easy to hack :)
You just listed the pros and cons to the console you either love it or hate it ;) Still for what you listed as for the hate on it is the reason why i avoid it.Unless,towards the end ms comes out with a model that realy works.

Enigmus

06-19-2009, 11:25 PM

Also, the factor they might repackage the 360 as a new system with a crappy controllerless motion sensing system. Utter waste of development money they could use with Xbox 3 or 720 or whatever it'll be called.

scooterb23

06-19-2009, 11:45 PM

I blame Microsoft for the last 20 years of Eddie Murphy's movie career

kupomogli

06-19-2009, 11:53 PM

I blame Microsoft for the last 20 years of Eddie Murphy's movie career

10. He had some good 1990 movies roles up to 1999.

scooterb23

06-20-2009, 12:06 AM

10. He had some good 1990 movies roles up to 1999.

Seriously? I can't really give him credit for anything past Coming to America in 1988. Anything past that is questionable at best...and just plain bad in most places.

Icarus Moonsight

06-20-2009, 03:16 AM

Pluto Nash single-handedly eradicates any value his career had at all.

adam_devry

06-20-2009, 04:04 AM

1. The red ring then they fix it and now the error 43 or whatever that hurts the system more.
2. Having to pay for live.
3. That outta all the game 80% is FPS.
4. Buying arcade games then when i took it to my friends without internet the full game i paid for now say trials.
5. charging 1200 points for crappy games.

Sniderman

06-20-2009, 01:04 PM

What do I hate about Microsoft? The fact that people CONTINUE to buy and support the Xbox 360 and Windows based computers, then CONTINUE to bitch about how crappy and how expensive they are.

Here's my suggestion: Throw out your 360. Throw out your Windows-based PC. Don't give Microsoft and Bill Gates another dime if you're truly that dissatisfied. Otherwise, STFU.

Enigmus

06-20-2009, 03:07 PM

Pluto Nash single-handedly eradicates any value his career had at all.

Well, Imagine That happening, huh?

CDiablo

06-20-2009, 04:28 PM

Seriously? I can't really give him credit for anything past Coming to America in 1988. Anything past that is questionable at best...and just plain bad in most places.

Someone clearly hasen't seen Vampire in Brooklyn.....

OT:Hate that all of their proprietary overpriced stuff, wireless adapter, HDD and the like. Hate NXE(save for the HDD install). Hate paying for live (even though its like $2.50 a month).

Enigmus

06-20-2009, 05:19 PM

Someone clearly hasen't seen Vampire in Brooklyn.....

What, no SNL?

kupomogli

06-20-2009, 06:41 PM

Seriously? I can't really give him credit for anything past Coming to America in 1988. Anything past that is questionable at best...and just plain bad in most places.

Bowfinger, Life, Metro, and Vampire in Brooklyn were all good in my opinion.

There is one that's sortof good sortof ehh. Beverly Hills Cop 3. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2, and then you watch the third one. It sucks balls compared to the other two. Now if it wasn't a sequel and you couldn't judge the movie from the first two, then it wouldn't be too bad of a movie, and it's about a decent movie for the 1990's(nothing really good, about your average 1990 movie.)

Now everything he's done in 2000 has sucked, and it fits my theory. Most movies 2000 and onward suck(this is my theory and it is fact, regardless of if you accept it or not.) A higher percentage of movies in the 80s and 90s if comparable to how good they are, are badass in comparison to movies in the 2000s.

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I hate how Microsoft doesn't have a free PC optimizer to make your PC run at perfect potential from the start instead of having all this crap added on and forcing to remove every single junk program, clean out the registry, etc, etc, etc, every time I format my PC(which I haven't did in a really long time.)

I hate how they also don't have a truly reliable free virus scanner and the fact that their firewall sucks.

The 1 2 P

06-20-2009, 06:56 PM

Bowfinger, Life, Metro, and Vampire in Brooklyn were all good in my opinion.

I know it's your opinion but Bowfinger was horrendous to me. Now Life, that was pretty good. I don't remember Metro and I haven't seen VIB yet.

Enigmus

06-20-2009, 07:21 PM

Wow. I thought this was about the things that irk us about
MICROSOFT.

Richter Belmount

06-21-2009, 12:18 AM

What I like most about microsoft , the defenders of microsoft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvbbeYPKTtk

Therealqtip

06-21-2009, 01:34 AM

I don't see whats so bad about NXE it's amazing I think at least.

skaar

06-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Wow. I thought this was about the things that irk us about
MICROSOFT.

I thought that this was about your pirated copy of Pac Man World 2 not running for you under Vista?

Enigmus

06-21-2009, 12:34 PM

I thought that this was about your pirated copy of Pac Man World 2 not running for you under Vista?

No. It's a official copy of it, and it doesn't work no matter how many times you do the compatibility. Also, MS was doomed to criticism from 95 and onwards- remember the "blue screen demonstration"?

scooterb23

06-21-2009, 12:51 PM

You want to know what I hate about Microsoft? I get laid so much since I bought an XBox 360, I've developed a bad hip.

Damn you Microsoft for making the ultimate poon magnet!!!

*shakes fist*

Rob2600

06-21-2009, 01:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvbbeYPKTtk

If this is serious, I fear for the future of our society.

Enigmus

06-21-2009, 02:30 PM

If this is serious, I fear for the future of our society.

I've seen that guy before. I saw him on StupidVideos telling people to get ready to (pardon my language) suck it, and I immediately thought "weirdo" when I heard his voice. He is what nightmares are made of. :eek 2:

kupomogli

06-21-2009, 02:38 PM

You want to know what I hate about Microsoft? I get laid so much since I bought an XBox 360, I've developed a bad hip.

Damn you Microsoft for making the ultimate poon magnet!!!

*shakes fist*

I hate Microsoft because this didn't happen to me when I owned a 360.

CelticJobber

06-21-2009, 04:10 PM

The thing I hate most about Microsoft is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

Enigmus

06-21-2009, 04:16 PM

The thing I hate most about Microsoft is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

And the Nintendo ones are their victims. :D

scooterb23

06-21-2009, 05:15 PM

The thing I hate most about Microsoft is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

The thing I hate most about Sony is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

The thing I hate most about Nintendo is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

The thing I hate most about SNK is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

The thing I hate most about Sega is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

The thing I hate most about NEC is its annoying fanboys, who are more numerous and bullying in their beliefs than fans of any other company that I'm aware of.

I could go on, but you get the point. Somebody is going to say the exact same thing about any company. And arguing over it is foolish.

CelticJobber

06-21-2009, 05:57 PM

Yeah, and fanboys are annoying no matter what company they support. Its just been my experience that there's alot more 360 fanboys (even on this forum) than I've ever seen for any other system. But its not something I think is worth arguing about.

kupomogli

06-21-2009, 06:27 PM

Its just been my experience that there's alot more 360 fanboys (even on this forum)

I'll agree that this forum has more 360 fans, but there are far more Nintendo fanboys.

Nintendo fanboys like to use the fact that Wii is selling far more than the two systems it's competing against because they sure as hell can't say the system has better games since there's no good games for the system(exaggeration.) Who cares if you got a cheap system when you can't play anything on it worth a damn.

It's okay to be a fanboy of the NES, SNES, and all their portables(and the N64 to a very small extent.) Those systems are actually good. The Gamecube is a crappy system as well, though it has its small share of good games(extremely small share.)

Hep038

06-21-2009, 06:46 PM

I'll agree that this forum has more 360 fans, but there are far more Nintendo fanboys.

Nintendo fanboys like to use the fact that Wii is selling far more than the two systems it's competing against because they sure as hell can't say the system has better games since there's no good games for the system(exaggeration.) Who cares if you got a cheap system when you can't play anything on it worth a damn.

It's okay to be a fanboy of the NES, SNES, and all their portables(and the N64 to a very small extent.) Those systems are actually good. The Gamecube is a crappy system as well, though it has its small share of good games(extremely small share.)

Yeah you never really saw official sales numbers on this board until Nintendo started selling more units, then you saw a thread every damn month.

The 1 2 P

06-21-2009, 09:38 PM

Yeah you never really saw official sales numbers on this board until Nintendo started selling more units, then you saw a thread every damn month.

That reminds me how back when the PS1 and PS2 ruled the video game world, all of Sony's E3 conferences were 50% power point presentation for how many more units they were selling over the competition. I use to hate that about their E3 conferences but fortunatly those are things of the past....atleast for them.

Sonicwolf

06-22-2009, 03:27 AM

Enigmus

06-22-2009, 11:29 AM

Then somebody change the name to "Things you hate about the Big 3"

kupomogli

06-22-2009, 02:10 PM

There's too much Sony bashing. There should be a thread "Things you love most about Sony." Sony would still probably be bashed.

unwinddesign

06-22-2009, 04:29 PM

There's too much Sony bashing. There should be a thread "Things you love most about Sony." Sony would still probably be bashed.

That's really just because they've been idiots this entire generation.

scooterb23

06-22-2009, 05:19 PM

I figured out what I hate most about Microsoft. It's the "soft" part of their name. You gots to come HARD! BRING YOUR A GAME SONY AND NINTENDO... MICROHARD WILL MESS YOU UP. WHERE MY DOGS AT RUFF RUFF!!!

The 1 2 P

06-22-2009, 05:41 PM

This thread should be "Things you hate about Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony".

Making a thread about just hating Microsoft just makes it seem like your a fanboy trying to play down only one company for its failings.

Only in a "things I hate about Microsoft" thread would you get a synopsis of Eddie Murthy's movie career. Look between the lines of that to see that it's not all gloom and doom:wink 2:

tofu

06-22-2009, 06:42 PM

The Things you hate most about Microsoft

I paid full price for a copy of Windows ME and I'm still pissed off about it.

kupomogli

06-22-2009, 07:20 PM

I paid full price for a copy of Windows ME and I'm still pissed off about it.

What about everyone who paid full price for Vista?

tofu

06-22-2009, 07:42 PM

What about everyone who paid full price for Vista?

Vista gets a bad rap, but it's not nearly as bad as Windows ME.

I couldn't even reinstall or uninstall Windows ME because it kept crashing.

Bojay1997

06-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Yeah you never really saw official sales numbers on this board until Nintendo started selling more units, then you saw a thread every damn month.

Completely untrue. There were similar discussions in the Saturn/PS1 era and in the Dreamcast/PS2 battle. It happens anytime people are passionate about a particular system or manufacturer. Personally, I could care less about sales numbers or even the manufacturers themselves so long as I have plenty of consoles and games to choose from that cover all the bases.

Sonicwolf

06-22-2009, 08:53 PM

Enigmus

06-22-2009, 09:30 PM

I paid full price for a copy of Windows ME and I'm still pissed off about it.

I feel ya, man. I once had ME, and it crashed so I had to buy XP. It's like ME WANTED to leave. Why couldn't it stand my Paint pictures? :drinking:

Sonicwolf

06-22-2009, 09:31 PM

I feel ya, man. I once had ME, and it crashed so I had to buy XP. It's like ME WANTED to leave. Why couldn't it stand my Paint pictures? :drinking:

I know someone who is still using Millenium Edition. One of the 14 people that didnt have enough problems to change it.

Enigmus

06-22-2009, 09:35 PM

I know someone who is still using Millenium Edition. One of the 14 people that didnt have enough problems to change it.

Are you hinting at something, Mr. Ghostbuster? :|

Sonicwolf

06-22-2009, 09:49 PM

Personally I have never used ME but one of the people I went to high school with did.

Richter Belmount

06-22-2009, 09:57 PM

Enigmus

06-22-2009, 10:03 PM

YOU ALREADY ATE ALL YOUR GODDAMN CHILI DOGS

YESH WE CAN SMELL THE GAS FROM THEM YOU GAS BOMB SCOOTER

Rob2600

06-23-2009, 12:28 AM

Vista gets a bad rap

I agree. I've been using Vista Home Premium x64 for a little over a year and haven't had any problems. This computer is faster than my previous Windows XP computer in every way and I don't remember either computer ever crashing.

Enigmus

06-23-2009, 09:33 AM

I like Vista better. It boots up faster and shuts down faster, unlike XP which takes 2 minutes, from the Dell logo to the XP logo.

GarrettCRW

06-23-2009, 01:24 PM

I hate Microsoft because this didn't happen to me when I owned a 360.

That's not a valid reaction, seeing as how scooterb23 is cooler than you.

kupomogli

06-23-2009, 02:18 PM

Enigmus

06-23-2009, 05:10 PM

Also, another- the fact that it requires Xbox Live to play music off my USB Nub when I don't even need Xbox Live. Frickin' Gates and his money lust! :bullshit:

Richter Belmount

06-23-2009, 06:34 PM

Noone speaks of bill gates film career?!?! Tsk tsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKbb1qY5ON8

Enigmus

06-23-2009, 06:46 PM

Noone speaks of bill gates film career?!?! Tsk tsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKbb1qY5ON8

If you want film career, try finding the long lost video of him getting hit over the head repeatedly with a Mac keyboard by Steve Jobs. It's a laugh riot. ROFL

NytroSkull7

06-23-2009, 09:26 PM

Here's my suggestion: Throw out your 360. Throw out your Windows-based PC. Don't give Microsoft and Bill Gates another dime if you're truly that dissatisfied. Otherwise, STFU.

High Five...

Hep038

06-23-2009, 10:01 PM

Completely untrue. There were similar discussions in the Saturn/PS1 era and in the Dreamcast/PS2 battle. It happens anytime people are passionate about a particular system or manufacturer. Personally, I could care less about sales numbers or even the manufacturers themselves so long as I have plenty of consoles and games to choose from that cover all the bases.

Completely untrue? I have been on DP quite a long time and I never remember people posting the console sales numbers every month. I am not talking about discussions of how systems are selling, I am talking about opening a thread and just posting the raw numbers. But since you said my post was "completely untrue", I must be wrong.:roll:

Bojay1997

06-23-2009, 10:19 PM

Completely untrue? I have been on DP quite a long time and I never remember people posting the console sales numbers every month. I am not talking about discussions of how systems are selling, I am talking about opening a thread and just posting the raw numbers. But since you said my post was "completely untrue", I must be wrong.:roll:

I don't know what you consider a long time, but I was on here from the very beginning (although this is the second account I have had on the site since I got out of collecting for a while in the late 90s) and prior to that on the other sites and newsgroups where people from DP posted from the early-90s on and there was always lively discussion about the newer systems and how they were selling, as well as posting of stats of Japanese and US sales numbers of consoles and games. Knowing the numbers of games sold is helpful to game collectors like us, especially since it has an impact on how rare a game might be down the road. Of course, you don't have to take my word for it, you could actually do a search and you'd find lots of threads going back to 2002 where people are reporting console and game sale numbers as the topic.

I'll agree with you that rampant fanboyism is a newer addition to this board, but frankly, there were zealots when Sega was still a console maker and there has always been a large Nintendo fanboy contingent on DP, possibly because a lot of classic gamers and collectors became Nintendo fans as they got older and the US manufacturers got out of the business. I do find great irony in the fact that you are lamenting the rise of console sales numbers as a thread topic in a thread devoted to hating Microsoft.

Richter Belmount

06-24-2009, 12:00 AM

High Five...

Are you actually taking the topic seriously?

The 1 2 P

06-24-2009, 02:21 AM

Are you actually taking the topic seriously?

I suppose someone was bound to eventually, but that doesn't mean he has to ruin it for the rest of us:popcorn:

Sonicwolf

06-24-2009, 03:17 AM

One thing I hate about Microsoft is their first Windows commercial.

"Except in Nebraska!"

Sweet zombie jesus, Ballmer was creepy back then... Wait. He still is.

Baloo

06-24-2009, 03:31 AM

I like Vista better. It boots up faster and shuts down faster, unlike XP which takes 2 minutes, from the Dell logo to the XP logo.

If your computer takes two minutes to go from the Dell logo to the XP logo, then there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with your computer. Mine can play computer games for only so long without crashing, and it still only takes about half a second to get from the Dell screen to the XP screen.

Enigmus

06-24-2009, 03:43 PM

If your computer takes two minutes to go from the Dell logo to the XP logo, then there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with your computer. Mine can play computer games for only so long without crashing, and it still only takes about half a second to get from the Dell screen to the XP screen.

No. Dell takes 2 seconds, XP takes 30 to 45. Still, my Vista loads in 23 seconds. Fast like the drive thru! (SARCASM)

Iron Draggon

06-24-2009, 04:43 PM

the only thing I hate about Microsoft games is the fact that not all of them end up getting ported to the PC... the ones that do are great, but PC gamers have still missed out on some great XBOX/360 games because of that crap... fortunately though, the ones we've missed out on have been very few overall

Rallisport Challenge 2
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Forza Motorsport
Forza Motorsport 2
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Viva Pinata: Party Animals

these are the only ones I know of that never got ported to the PC yet, and prolly never will... so no big loss, but still annoying... especially since Crimson Skies began on the PC, and Rallisport Challenge is still the best rally racing game on the PC, IMHO... otherwise I wouldn't care much about the exclusions

Rob2600

06-24-2009, 07:40 PM

My PC ran much faster with XP. Now I do like Vista better due to the fact that it has better optioins of opening stuff. I like the Start menu search bar to search your computer files, etc, and the fact that I could have a side bar in the start menu to open all my favorite folders as well as the usual pin your stuff up on the left side, but that was already there.

What I don't like is how I had to optimize Vista in order for it to run alot faster and I still think XP ran better. Vista takes alot longer to load up the program when starting the service.

If you run Vista on a computer from 2003, it'll be slower than XP...just like if you run OS X 10.5 on a Mac G4 from 2003, it'll be slower than OS X 10.2.

Traditionally, new operatings systems require more powerful hardware. The upcoming OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and Windows 7 are the exceptions.

I bought a new Core 2 Quad tower a year ago and it runs Vista faster than my previous Pentium 4 tower ran XP.

Enigmus

06-25-2009, 10:52 AM

Also, Pac Man's been rejecting being on Microsoft things lately. First, it won't work on Vista, and now guess what? It won't run on 360! What, does Microsoft hate Pac Man or something? Same thing goes for Sims 2 on Xbox! Damn compatibility list not going to be updated! :frustrated:

Icarus Moonsight

06-25-2009, 11:05 AM

I hate MS for making Apple products so damn attractive. Microsoft might as well hire the Pants-on-head retarded Mazda kid to say, "Zune, Zune, Zune!"

Enigmus

06-25-2009, 12:58 PM

I hate MS for making Apple products so damn attractive. Microsoft might as well hire the Pants-on-head retarded Mazda kid to say, "Zune, Zune, Zune!"

Either that or the retarded little kid that says "What do you Owen" in those new Capitol One commercials. Either way, they'd be so bad they'd make Microsoft look good. :above me:

Therealqtip

06-25-2009, 01:22 PM

Well I guess they're getting rid of MSpoints -1 for corruption. You're well on your way Microsoft

JunkTheMagicDragon

06-25-2009, 01:36 PM

ms spacebucks > credit card because:

$10 = $10
800ms points =/= $10, depending on where you shop

Enigmus

06-25-2009, 01:45 PM

ms spacebucks > credit card because:

$10 = $10
800ms points =/= $10, depending on where you shop

MS is in an alternate universe. At least Nintendo follows an actual monetary system by going by 10s, such as the cards having 2000 points. While MS? 800. Not a whole lot, and it's a weird point system when everything is MORE than 800! :grrr:

The 1 2 P

06-25-2009, 09:45 PM

In modern Russia Microsoft hates things about you.

SegaAges

06-25-2009, 09:52 PM

I guess I am going off topic completely, but you did not specify if it was games or not.

Programming in .Net kinda sucks.

Silverlight is alright though

tom

06-26-2009, 03:55 AM

And I quite like W7, using it at the mo...

Richter Belmount

06-26-2009, 05:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbl8qd8zLYo

A update about the microsoft fanboy taunting the apple users, how dare you reymon14!

Enigmus

06-26-2009, 09:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbl8qd8zLYo

A update about the microsoft fanboy taunting the apple users, how dare you reymon14!

Somebody shoot that buisnessman already.
Also, the not built-in wireless problem for 360. THAT much for a friggin' adaptor?

Enigmus

06-26-2009, 07:05 PM

Whoops. I forgot to mention the poll.
Still, another thing, Internet Explorer. It takes 5 seconds to open a tab, and my Firefox on my other computer loads tabs instantly!

kupomogli

06-26-2009, 07:25 PM

Whoops. I forgot to mention the poll.
Still, another thing, Internet Explorer. It takes 5 seconds to open a tab, and my Firefox on my other computer loads tabs instantly!

Internet Explorer isn't as good as Firefox(add-on options and crap) but it has more compatibility with your average site and loads slightly faster when changing sites. I use Firefox because it owns, but I thought I'd let that out there as Internet Explorer is actually pretty good.

JohnnyBlaze

06-26-2009, 09:28 PM

As someone who is taught in computer repair, the biggest pet peeve for me is how it seems that with every new Windows version, it gets WORSE instead of better. Take a look at all the problems with Vista. That's why a lot of people I know stuck with XP. Yeah, they make improvements. But, it seems that with these improvements, 90 million NEW problems pop up.

Also, the fact that Windows is a HUGE target for spyware, adware, viruses, worms, you name it. It's as if Windows is a dirty whore and with each log on to the internet, you run the risk of catching something.

Luckily for me, I ALWAYS keep my firewall on. I only had 1 problem where I had to reinstall Windows in the year and a half I've owned this.

But, for the average person with little to no knowledge, they don't know how to keep the computer clean. I mean, for the grandma checking emails from her grandkids, all she knows is that it's supposed to work. I just wish that instead of releasing half-finished OS's to get quick money, they take the time and make a FULL OS! One that works WITHOUT INCIDENT!

I would've been a Mac user. My ex used to use it at work and I was impressed that she had NO CRASHES. But, a lot of programs that I regularly use don't support Mac.

But, as we know, Microsoft is a bunch of greedy bastards who just cut corners and release something and wonder why everyone complains when their products don't work.

Don't believe me?

Just remember how Microsoft cheaped out on the 360 and ONLY NOW are starting to make them correctly so we don't red-ring.

Rob2600

06-27-2009, 01:12 AM

Windows has the most viruses because 85% of computers run Windows. If everyone switched to Mac, then Macs would have the most viruses.

Regarding crashes and BSODs, I haven't experienced either one since I started using XP in 2003 and Vista in 2008. Windows 95 and 98 were unstable, yes, but XP and Vista run perfectly fine...at least for me.

And to those who say Macs never crash, you obviously haven't used them in a production environment eight hours a day, five days a week. Trust me, they crash.

Richter Belmount

06-27-2009, 03:25 AM

Windows is a dirty whore

Nuff said.

Sonicwolf

06-27-2009, 03:28 AM

Windows and* Macintosh* are* dirty whores*.

FTFY

Both Windows and Macintosh are pretty boned. One is attacked by massive amounts of spyware and crap and the other costs way to much.

scooterb23

06-27-2009, 08:14 AM

Microsoft killed Michael Jackson. There, I said it.

Enigmus

06-27-2009, 09:27 AM

Microsoft killed Michael Jackson. There, I said it.

How? Strangled with the headphones from a Zune? :above me:

Enigmus

06-29-2009, 03:25 PM

Also, the fact that there's a functioning web browser on Wii (which I'm typing on), yet the makers of Internet Explorer can't make one for 360!

ProgrammingAce

06-29-2009, 04:15 PM

the makers of Internet Explorer can't make one for 360!

Why would they want to? I mean, i know why you want one, but why would they want to make one?

Two different issues.

The 1 2 P

06-30-2009, 02:56 AM

I hate how Microsoft never officially apologized for the "disc read error". They could have atleast given us an extended warranty for it. But instead they still continue to deny it ever happened. For shame Sony....er, I mean Microsoft:)

Therealqtip

06-30-2009, 10:06 AM

I just realized, Miscrosoft can't get their shit straight everything they do fails. Like the blue screen of death, or the red ring of death, or a zune

Therealqtip

06-30-2009, 10:07 AM

Why would they want to? I mean, i know why you want one, but why would they want to make one?

Two different issues.

U CAN SURF TEH INTERNETZ ON UR THREE SIXTAY YO!

Enigmus

06-30-2009, 10:17 AM

I just realized, Miscrosoft can't get their shit straight everything they do fails. Like the blue screen of death, or the red ring of death, or a zune

I have a Vista laptop, and it needs to be repaired because it Blue Screened. BSoDing is like flatlining for laptops. Nice one, Microsoft. You made something that makes Best Buy sound like a hospital.

chrisbid

06-30-2009, 10:27 AM

i wont read through the entire thread, but i find it sad how microsoft has pretty much failed to profit from every project not directly tied to their operating system or office suite.

msn, zune, xbox...

bing will likely crash and burn too

s1lence

06-30-2009, 10:29 AM

I actually liked the Virtual Boy. But Microsoft does suck for making Mario 3D, and then brainwashing everyone into thinking it was a good game.

Yeah and why did they think people would like to ride around on a cartoon dinosaur, please.

marauder

06-30-2009, 11:44 AM

The most annoying thing are the virusses, crashes (damn the blue screen), moves slow like shit in comparion to mac or linux.But where is windows good at, at games, none of linux or mac, has so many games that run fairly stable.

Rob2600

06-30-2009, 12:24 PM

I just realized, Miscrosoft can't get their shit straight everything they do fails. Like the blue screen of death

The most annoying thing are the virusses, crashes (damn the blue screen), moves slow like shit in comparion to mac or linux.

Unless you're using a version of Windows from ten years ago, you shouldn't experience crashes or "blue screens of death," at least not regularly enough to complain about it. I've used Windows and Mac computers equally, on a daily basis since 2003 and they both crash on occasion.

The whole "Windows is a glitchy mess that constantly crashes" argument hasn't been relevant since 2002. Today, both operating systems are so similar that one isn't vastly superior to the other. When Windows 7 and OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) come out this fall, the gap will be even narrower.

Regarding viruses, again, I use Windows computers every day and I never get a virus. Why? Because I don't open strange attachments or visit shady web sites. I also don't download torrents or files from peer-to-peer networks. In other words, I'm careful and smart about the way I operate my computers.

It's like driving a car: if you don't know what you're doing and start driving off the road and doing all sorts of inappropriate things, you'll crash and damage the car, but if you obey the rules and watch where you're going and drive carefully, you'll be fine.

Regarding "moving slow," you're right: Vista runs slowly on a computer from 2003...but so do Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5. Try running "Tiger" or "Leopard" on a Mac G4 from 2003. You'll want to pull your hair out before long.

Bojay1997

06-30-2009, 01:40 PM

Unless you're using a version of Windows from ten years ago, you shouldn't experience crashes or "blue screens of death," at least not regularly enough to complain about it. I've used Windows and Mac computers equally, on a daily basis since 2003 and they both crash on occasion.

The whole "Windows is a glitchy mess that constantly crashes" argument hasn't been relevant since 2002. Today, both operating systems are so similar that one isn't vastly superior to the other. When Windows 7 and OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) come out this fall, the gap will be even narrower.

Regarding viruses, again, I use Windows computers every day and I never get a virus. Why? Because I don't open strange attachments or visit shady web sites. I also don't download torrents or files from peer-to-peer networks. In other words, I'm careful and smart about the way I operate my computers.

It's like driving a car: if you don't know what you're doing and start driving off the road and doing all sorts of inappropriate things, you'll crash and damage the car, but if you obey the rules and watch where you're going and drive carefully, you'll be fine.

Regarding "moving slow," you're right: Vista runs slowly on a computer from 2003...but so do Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5. Try running "Tiger" or "Leopard" on a Mac G4 from 2003. You'll want to pull your hair out before long.

Actually, I have a G4 from 2000 which I upgraded to a 1 GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM (not exactly high end by any means or even close to the low end iMacs today) and it runs Tiger blazingly fast. Although I use both a PC and a Mac on a regular basis, I still think there are some significant advantages to OSX and the Mac platform in general. The virus issue is huge and you would be surprised how elaborate and devious some of them have become on the PC, even for a super careful user. Windows also seems to break itself more frequently than OSX, especially if you are installing or removing software. There have been several times where I have been forced to reinstall Windows or major components as a result of legitimate software uninstalling itself and taking some critical files with it. Simple things like having a license from Adobe to make PDFs in most major Mac applications is super useful. I also just generally prefer the interface.

You are correct though that neither platform really crashes on a regular basis anymore. Still, having overseen large editing and graphics suites used for daily television production with both Mac and PC systems, the Mac still seems to have the edge in overall stability.

Rob2600

06-30-2009, 02:10 PM

I have a G4 from 2000 which I upgraded to a 1 GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM (not exactly high end by any means or even close to the low end iMacs today) and it runs Tiger blazingly fast.

That's weird. One of the computers I use is a 2 GHz G5 iMac from 2005 with 1 GB of RAM, running OS 10.4, and it's torture for me. Then again, I'm not using the iMac for simple home use, I use it for web and print production and run Photoshop, QuarkXPress, Excel, etc. simultaneously.

Simple things like having a license from Adobe to make PDFs in most major Mac applications is super useful.

I agree. OS X's Preview program is very handy for creating and converting PDFs.

I also just generally prefer the interface (of OS X).

I agreed with you until OS X 10.4. I thought 10.0-10.3 looked great. The subtle pinstripes looked clean and sleek. But the brushed-metal look in 10.4 looks horrible and now with 10.5, everything is just chunky solid gray, reminiscent of the old GeoWorks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BBENS412.png) DOS GUI. I hate it and think, for once, Windows actually looks much prettier and sleeker (Vista and Windows 7).