View Full Version : Dragon Quest 4, 5 and 6 remakes headed to the ds (joystiq.com)
7th lutz
07-31-2007, 01:29 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/dragon-quest-iv-v-vi-remakes-bound-for-ds/
Hopefully Dragon Quest 5 and 6 will make it to the states.
The only way for a North American gamer to play them in the past was by using an emulator and download the roms.
Aussie2B
07-31-2007, 01:34 AM
I could've sworn I was playing Dragon Quest 6 in my SNES awhile back and that I was located in North America. ;P
All kidding aside, that's awesome news. Maybe it'll bring down the price of Dragon Warrior 4 as well.
MegaDrive20XX
07-31-2007, 01:34 AM
That is delicious..
kaedesdisciple
07-31-2007, 01:36 AM
DAMNIT, I might actually have to buy a DS for this!
Snapple
07-31-2007, 01:52 AM
I expect that all console RPG fans have played DQ4 for the NES, but for those of you who haven't played DQ5, it is by far my personal favorite of the series.
DQ5 is kinda like an SNES version of pokemon, and DQ6 is kinda like an SNES version of Final Fantasy Tactics. Mixed with the Dragon Quest battle system and setting of course. They've both been fan-translated into English, but it's great that the DS versions will bring these games to a whole new English audience who didn't know anything about these games.
heybtbm
07-31-2007, 02:03 AM
More JRPG's are never a bad thing...squinting to see the action on the tiny DS screen might be.
roushimsx
07-31-2007, 02:25 AM
I've always been bummed that we didn't get the PS1 version of Dragon Quest IV. An english DS version of the game would totally make up for it. God, I loved that game...haven't played it in over a decade, so no idea if I'd still feel the same, but good god did it treat me right.
Not sure if V is my cup of tea, but I had a pretty fun time with the 6th game as well. I'd be down for giving remakes of either a shot in a heartbeat.
More JRPG's are never a bad thing...squinting to see the action on the tiny DS screen might be.
That's my main beef, too :( I hate having to hold the DS so close. I'm really looking forward to seeing DS emulation mature to fix the screen-size issue, though I'd probably have to buy a wacom tablet to really get the most out of it. Considering all of TabletPC's functions have been migrated into Vista, that probably wouldn't be a very bad move anyway, though. I love me some Windows TabletPC.
Fuyukaze
07-31-2007, 02:42 AM
Actualy, I've been playing DQ 6 on my SNES for some time. No problems at all.
I'm not so concerned about how it will look on the DS as they will be re-makes but more if they will even be released in the states. We got the FF games on the GBA, but Nintendo published them for it. If SquareEnix doesnt want to release them here it's up to Nintendo. If they decide not to, well, that's it. SquareEnix's already shown they dont care to handle re-releases themselves and will be more then willing to either cancle it or have someone else publish it. After DQ IV, I'll not hold my breath.
mailman187666
07-31-2007, 03:32 PM
I'll buy any US Dragonquest release. Wasn't it part 7 that came out for PS1? I also thought 5 and 6 were Japan only?
heybtbm
07-31-2007, 03:39 PM
I'll buy any US Dragonquest release. Wasn't it part 7 that came out for PS1? I also thought 5 and 6 were Japan only?
You are correct.
Kamisama
07-31-2007, 03:47 PM
Cool, I should really play the DQ Games bit more. I have only checked out DQ1 (!) for now, to have a look at the start of the series, hehe.
Snapple
07-31-2007, 06:32 PM
I've never had a problem reading text on my DS. Maybe you guys should get some reading glasses.
heybtbm
07-31-2007, 07:28 PM
I've never had a problem reading text on my DS. Maybe you guys should get some reading glasses.
It's not the tiny text that's the issue. It's trying to fit console-sized action on a dinky little screen. I'd rather play games on a TV. Handheld consoles have their place (and games), but full length, A-list, epic RPG's shouldn't be one of them (i.e. DQ9).
Fuyukaze
08-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Cool, I should really play the DQ Games bit more. I have only checked out DQ1 (!) for now, to have a look at the start of the series, hehe.
I'd recomend getting the GBC release for DQ1+2. 2's still one of my favorites of the series. 3 shouldnt be that expensive for the GBC either. 7 and 8 didnt impress me as much though 7 had more then enough extra content to put the game well over 100 hours of gameplay. Plus it had a decent story as well.
It's not the tiny text that's the issue. It's trying to fit console-sized action on a dinky little screen. I'd rather play games on a TV. Handheld consoles have their place (and games), but full length, A-list, epic RPG's shouldn't be one of them (i.e. DQ9).
I believe SquareEnix begs to disagree. It'll be interesting alone to see the sales figures for it once it hits Japan. As it'll be the first in the series to start on a handheld vs console it should prove interesting. It may not be the 100+ hour epic journey thru 8-10 towns we've come to know, but it could very well be the best.
As much as I'm waiting for the news of a domestic release on these 3 games, I'm hoping 4 swords gets a release as well. It's sales numbers so far have been rather nice and something to show North American Wii owners as well as European something we've been missing so far. A RPG game.
Eteric Rice
08-02-2007, 05:31 PM
I don't mind my RPGs being on handhelds. My eyes aren't bad, but I can understand why some have trouble with seeing the text.
Perhaps the next DS will have TV connectivity? I doubt it, but you never know.
But yeah, I like my handheld RPGs.
kaedesdisciple
11-08-2007, 07:41 PM
kaedesdisciple used WorldLeaf on thread
thread came back to life!
Yea bad joke, I know. Anyone see any reputable word lately on when we might see the remake of DQ4 for the DS? I just recently came into the DS world and now I am very curious.
slip81
11-08-2007, 08:11 PM
still nothing official on a US release, though the JP version of IV is supposed to come out this month.
7th lutz
11-08-2007, 10:32 PM
still nothing official on a US release, though the JP version of IV is supposed to come out this month.
The Japan release is coming month on the 22nd.
Overbite
11-09-2007, 01:16 AM
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker just came out this week and it's a pretty good placeholder for DQ9, which I heard was supposed to be multiplayer and online but with the same battle system. Oh well, DQ is great.
kainemaxwell
11-09-2007, 05:57 AM
A remake of DQ4 would rock, but finally bringing 5 and 6 over here rocks hard! Wish I finally beat 6 on my emulator long ago, if i could find a decent emu to play it on my tv (translated of course), I'd be happy.
Daria
11-09-2007, 01:48 PM
A remake of DQ4 would rock, but finally bringing 5 and 6 over here rocks hard! Wish I finally beat 6 on my emulator long ago, if i could find a decent emu to play it on my tv (translated of course), I'd be happy.
A wireless PC controller and output from your PC to TV screen could do wonders. (:
Edit: Also I've been pretty disapointed by some of my DS games in the past... but the DW remakes would totally make up for it. Especially DW5.
MegaDrive20XX
11-09-2007, 06:01 PM
A wireless PC controller and output from your PC to TV screen could do wonders. (:
Edit: Also I've been pretty disapointed by some of my DS games in the past... but the DW remakes would totally make up for it. Especially DW5.
Yup this is the lady I waited to hear from about this topic.
Daria, was the first to introduced to DW 5 and 6. This lady knows what she's talking about!
Dragon Warrior Jasen
11-09-2007, 06:24 PM
I love the DW/DQ Series... could you tell?
If they port them to the DS, it would be great. I have 4 for the NES, its fun. Although, I havent beaten it and i rarely play it because it was the holy grail for me in the condition i was able to get it.
I picked up SFC copies NCIB of DQ 5/6 and a PS2 (Japan Release only) of DQ 5. Id love to play them in english.
I liked DQ Heroes: Rocket Slime, and I hope the new monsters game is just as great.
Will the re-releases make prices of the other games go down? Probably no, bc thier rarity doesnt change and usually re-releases make the demand for the original higher. (Or, so I hope).
If a DQ9 comes out, you bet your sweet rear ill be ordering 2. One to play, one to keep sealed away for my collection, just wish I had the foresight for this when I was 10!
hbkprm
11-09-2007, 08:34 PM
i hope it come to the states
kainemaxwell
12-11-2007, 11:57 PM
http://www.dsfanboy.com/2007/12/06/dragon-quest-v-coming-out-again-in-spring-2008/
DQ V, coming next Spring.
MarkMan
12-12-2007, 01:39 AM
I'm pretty sure IV will come out here, it's already partially translated in English on the DS cart itself... some people have played through it using the English settings + action replay.
Cryomancer
12-12-2007, 08:04 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with the "screen/resolution is too damn small" issue. I've played DQ8 and it was fucking perfect. Lately, I've been playing Dragon Quest Monsters, and the whole thing just seems so scaled down. Some of it is pretty impressive (the size of a couple of the maps surprised me), but I would still prefer to see this game on a higher-resolution screen so the artistic style could be better realized.
DQ 5 is already on the PS2 in Japan since a couple years ago, I doubt we'll ever get it.
ROTS MKII
12-13-2007, 12:54 AM
I could care less since four is wonderfull the way it is, five is perfect, and six just looks darn good.
ROTS MKII
12-13-2007, 01:01 AM
I could care less since four is wonderfull the way it is, five is perfect, and six just looks darn good.
heybtbm
05-22-2008, 12:54 AM
Bump from the past...
Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI are confirmed for the US (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6191376.html). DQIV will hit on September 16th.
Tiny screen aside, this is awesome news.
Evan_G
05-22-2008, 02:19 AM
I am pretty psyched about this. I really don't have a problem with the screen size (I usually hold the DS at arms length and can read everything fine). I can only hope that they find someone familiar with the old Dragon Warrior games to do the translation. I played through most of DQM: Joker, and was disappointed how they removed all the monster names from the old games and replaced them with generic names (bubble slime instead of babble, wtf). DQ4 is one of my favourite RPGs, and I never fully got through the SFC ones. But really, I can't wait for a date for DQ9.
carlcarlson
05-22-2008, 03:04 AM
I'm not too familiar with the DQ series: is DQ IV going to be the same as Dragon Warrior IV for the NES, or are the numbers off a la the FF series? Either way, this is awesome news as I've always wanted to see why exactly this series was so huge in Japan. If DQ 8 is any indication these games are going to be amazing.
I am pretty psyched about this. I really don't have a problem with the screen size (I usually hold the DS at arms length and can read everything fine). I can only hope that they find someone familiar with the old Dragon Warrior games to do the translation. I played through most of DQM: Joker, and was disappointed how they removed all the monster names from the old games and replaced them with generic names (bubble slime instead of babble, wtf). DQ4 is one of my favourite RPGs, and I never fully got through the SFC ones. But really, I can't wait for a date for DQ9.
The game is already translated into English, they're just taking their sweet time releasing it here. The Japanese version of the DS game has a full English script (albeit containing lots of garbage text) save for the Immigrant Town sidequest that's accessible via an Action Replay code.
I'm not too familiar with the DQ series: is DQ IV going to be the same as Dragon Warrior IV for the NES, or are the numbers off a la the FF series? Either way, this is awesome news as I've always wanted to see why exactly this series was so huge in Japan. If DQ 8 is any indication these games are going to be amazing.
It's the same game as the NES DQ IV, the naming convention is universal throughout the series.
MarkMan
05-22-2008, 03:58 AM
Zenithia!
Dragon Warrior Jasen
05-22-2008, 06:04 AM
DWJ almost pees himself in excitment! I'm stoked... I can't wait for the release of these games, one to add to my collection and two to play like a champ!
Cryomancer
05-22-2008, 10:56 AM
I'll agree with the earlier comments about "too bad it's for DS". i know why they are doing it. But I've played both DQ8 and DQM Joker. Level 5 makes awesome cel shaded graphics, really brings the Toriyama style to life. But Joker suffered from the power and resolution drop. The textures are very low res and the whole thing just seems like it could have been that much better with more resolution. I'm not that big of a graphics whore, but DQ8 is fuckin beautiful and I'll be not so happy if they never bring the series back to a console.
Lady Jaye
05-22-2008, 03:02 PM
I'm glad that it's been confirmed. Really am looking forward to them. :)
namzep
05-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Looks like I'm going to have a few more DS games to pick up, then. I really have to admit I like the DQ/DW series. Even with the crappy menu system exhibited in the first one on the NES. :)
kainemaxwell
05-22-2008, 08:55 PM
I really want to break out an emulator and play 5 and 6 now.
jcalder8
05-22-2008, 09:01 PM
These are going to be a day one pickups for me. I can't wait. Hopefully they'll allow a save anytime since they are on handhelds.
Dragon Warrior Jasen
05-22-2008, 09:27 PM
I think releasing them on DS is actually genious. I am not sure the exact processing power on the DS, but it has to be equivelent to or better than the SFC... so a port would be simple enough given that you could do it with out a complete redesign of the charecters and maps to accomodate the "new" consoles.
They could have released them on Sega Game Gear for all I care... I would still be getting them!
Evan_G
05-22-2008, 10:53 PM
Judging by the screenshots, it is looking as though it will be set up similar to Dragon Quest 7 (and the remake of 4) on the PS1:
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/dq/dq4ds/dq4dsss.html
Looks better than the PS1 games anyway.
Poofta!
05-23-2008, 01:30 AM
I'll agree with the earlier comments about "too bad it's for DS". i know why they are doing it. But I've played both DQ8 and DQM Joker. Level 5 makes awesome cel shaded graphics, really brings the Toriyama style to life. But Joker suffered from the power and resolution drop. The textures are very low res and the whole thing just seems like it could have been that much better with more resolution. I'm not that big of a graphics whore, but DQ8 is fuckin beautiful and I'll be not so happy if they never bring the series back to a console.
they should bring it to the psp. THAT would be amazing. portability AND beautiful graphics.
(not hating on the DS, i have both!)
Daria
05-23-2008, 08:51 AM
Now we just need some sort of DS player for the Wii.
Lady Jaye
08-28-2008, 05:26 PM
So, who plans on getting DQIV when it comes out in 3 weeks? I certainly am, and looking at the trailer at the official site just makes me look even more forward to it. And in the meantime, I will be getting Dragon Quest Heroes on Saturday (for $10!) - I know it's not quite the same and all but that oughta keep me busy (when I'm not playing Space Invaders Extreme).
I wonder when DQV and VI are coming out, though? The site only says "coming soon" with no precision on the launch date (before the end of the year, I hope!).
heybtbm
08-28-2008, 05:37 PM
So, who plans on getting DQIV when it comes out in 3 weeks?
I plan on picking it up. The problem is finding time to play it. I haven't even picked up FFTA2 for the DS yet...which I've been eagerly awaiting.
My policy for the last few years has been to finish whatever portable games I'm in the middle of before starting new ones. Right now I'm still grinding through the end of FFIII and halfway done with FFVII: Crisis Core. When those are done, I'll pick up DQ4 and Tactics for sure.
Hopefully, DQ5 and 6 can wait until next year.
darkhades
08-28-2008, 06:19 PM
So, who plans on getting DQIV when it comes out in 3 weeks?
I am for sure! It's been my most anticipated game for awhile now, along with DQ IX. Do we know for sure if DQ V & VI is being released in North America?
DQ Heroes is a great game, lots of fun. Although the game is a bit short, it's definately worth $10!
Edit: Oh nevermind, just read some previous posts, looks like DQ V & VI are confirmed.
So, who plans on getting DQIV when it comes out in 3 weeks? I certainly am, and looking at the trailer at the official site just makes me look even more forward to it. And in the meantime, I will be getting Dragon Quest Heroes on Saturday (for $10!) - I know it's not quite the same and all but that oughta keep me busy (when I'm not playing Space Invaders Extreme).
I wonder when DQV and VI are coming out, though? The site only says "coming soon" with no precision on the launch date (before the end of the year, I hope!).
I can't wait for DQ IV. I got about 60-75% of the way through the NES version before trying out some other game, and by the time I was finished with it I had no idea where I left off in DQ. Even GameFAQs was no help, so I eventually just gave up on the game. I'll definitely finish it this time.
Lady Jaye
08-28-2008, 06:33 PM
I am for sure! It's been my most anticipated game for awhile now, along with DQ IX. Do we know for sure if DQ V & VI is being released in North America?
DQ Heroes is a great game, lots of fun. Although the game is a bit short, it's definately worth $10!
Edit: Oh nevermind, just read some previous posts, looks like DQ V & VI are confirmed.
Yeah, if you check out the official site for North America, they're confirmed alright, but they're still TBD.
chicnstu
08-28-2008, 08:39 PM
DQ IV, V, VI, and IX are the top four games I want most for DS, then Chrono Trigger.
I have the money for IV and I planned on getting it but I have to spend my extra $100 on my other hobby.
EDIT: Actually, I think that money would be better spent on something else...
jcalder8
09-17-2008, 06:11 AM
I figured it was about time to bump this back up. I'll be picking up my copy of 4 tomorrow.
heybtbm
09-17-2008, 02:05 PM
If anyone is picking this up today, remember that Circuit City is giving away a $10 gift card w/ purchase of DQIV.
I just finished FFIII (DS) a couple days ago. I've been slowly playing it on and off for since it was released. There are too many A-list RPG's been coming out on the DS and it's hard for me to play two RPG's simultaneously. I had to finish it so I could start DQIV with a clean slate.
slip81
09-17-2008, 03:43 PM
I'll probably be picking this up soon since I've never played the NES original.
Lady Jaye
09-17-2008, 04:04 PM
It's too early to tell whether Future Shop and Best Buy have received it (their sites say "No info available" for the stores near me), but I am headed out to BBY tonight anyways to buy a sleeve for my new iPod...
Lady Jaye
09-17-2008, 07:27 PM
Well, I am now the proud owner of DQIV. Can't play it till tonight, though, as my DS is at home.
heybtbm
09-17-2008, 09:40 PM
Well, I am now the proud owner of DQIV. Can't play it till tonight, though, as my DS is at home.
Me too. I picked it up at lunch. I can't wait to play...this is the first RPG in recent memory that I'll be starting the same day I bought it (probably since FFXII). I'm sure people can relate to an ever increasing RPG backlog. FFTA2 is going to have to wait for now (again).
108Stars
09-17-2008, 10:09 PM
DQ IV is awesome, although the graphics are only slightly improved from the bad ugly DQ VII on PS1.
The sprites have one frame of animation more in each direction as far as I can tell, and monsters are now animated.
Still the 3D graphics remain pretty bad, and still the characters only circle through their walking animations; but that was to be expected the moment the first screenshots were released and does not change the fact that the game is simply fun and I have spent 30 hours with it by now.
Still, it could have been better visually; the DS is stronger than a PlayStation (to refer to the idea it might be as strong as an SNES), and even on the PlayStation DQ VII was a graphical disaster: but SE goes the cheapo way with the DQ remakes. They could have used the DQM: Joker engine instead.
At least we Europeans got the game before the US for a change, usually it is the other way around. But it could have been released months ago, seeing that the translations were all nearly complete on the japanese ROM from November 2007...
Lady Jaye
09-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Graphics isn't everything in a game, especially not a game that was originally released 15 years ago...
And that's also why I'm not bothering with getting Final Fantasy IV DS, since I already have the GBA version.
Lady Jaye
09-18-2008, 04:29 PM
After playing a bit with the game, here are my impressions so far:
Yes, graphically, it's not the best-looking game on the DS, but it does feel moreso like a port of the PS1 remake. It adds to the old-school feel.
The use of local dialects (so far, Scottish) is ok, but if I didn't watch Trainspotting, I wouldn't know that ken = know and bairn = kids. This is why I switched my DS to French and voilą! the French translation is impeccable without using any kind of regional dialects.
I do find the way to access menus somewhat counter-intuitive. We're used to access such menus via Start and Select, not the action buttons. On the other hand, it's great that the map is omnipresent when you're traveling in the overworld.
Just like in Dragon Quest VIII, there's day and night in the game, which influences the monster selection and the people in the villages.
All in all, once you get used to the little quirks of the game, it's actually pretty good, while still being a classic turn-based RPG. A gamer whose experience of the Dragon Quest series is limited to DQVIII would have no problem adapting to this one.
Lady Jaye
12-06-2008, 02:28 PM
North American release date confirmed for Dragon Quest V DS: February 17, 2009. :)
Sabz5150
12-06-2008, 03:32 PM
http://www.enginevoodoo.com/images/collect/dw4fcm.jpg
This game is AWESO...
I'm doing it wrong, aren't I?
jcalder8
12-06-2008, 04:40 PM
North American release date confirmed for Dragon Quest V DS: February 17, 2009. :)
Sweet, I'll be making my pre-order soon.
heybtbm
12-06-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm about 25 hours in as of a few days ago. I've felt a new sense of urgency to finish this game because of the ever-increasing list of awesome DS RPG's I have "waiting on deck". Unfortunately, my handheld RPG time is pretty sparse as of late. Thankfully the DS's standby mode allows me to play whenever I have a spare moment. Seriously, the DS standby feature has got to be one of the greatest gaming innovations of all time. I love it.
Lady Jaye
12-07-2008, 12:31 AM
I agree... and you know you're way too used to it when you switch to a GBA game and forget that the stanby feature doesn't work with it.
RPG_Fanatic
12-07-2008, 12:34 AM
North American release date confirmed for Dragon Quest V DS: February 17, 2009. :)
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
jcalder8
02-17-2009, 03:14 AM
Number V comes out tomorrow, who else will be picking it up?
heybtbm
02-17-2009, 03:49 AM
Number V comes out tomorrow, who else will be picking it up?
Right here. I can't wait. I've never played DQV yet, so this is my first time through.
Volcanon
02-17-2009, 05:02 AM
V is pretty good. kinda low replay value tho.
Make an extra save at the beginning of chapter 2, since before that there's nothing added between plays.
Lady Jaye
02-17-2009, 05:09 AM
Not getting it tomorrow but will do in the short term. :) And since it's been almost released simultaneously in Europe in here, I suppose that the game is multilingual (selection based on the DS' language selection), just like DQIV DS was...
Dragon Warrior Jasen
02-17-2009, 06:04 AM
Pre-Ordered mine on Amazon months ago. :)
Princess-Isabela
02-17-2009, 08:37 PM
they should bring it to the psp. THAT would be amazing. portability AND beautiful graphics.
(not hating on the DS, i have both!)
oh and the loading times would kill you in the meantime(battles are frequent), I already played chrono trigger and final fantasy IV,V,VI on psx - never again, (after I finished them on snes),
playing them without loading times is just the way they were meant to be played.
heybtbm
02-17-2009, 09:01 PM
oh and the loading times would kill you in the meantime(battles are frequent), I already played chrono trigger and final fantasy IV,V,VI on psx - never again, (after I finished them on snes),
playing them without loading times is just the way they were meant to be played.
Very true. Final Fantasy I and II look gorgeous on the PSP, but the load times are a real put-off. I'll stick with the DS.
mobiusclimber
02-17-2009, 09:41 PM
Pre-Ordered mine on Amazon months ago. :)
Did this come w/ any pre-order stuff? I pre-ordered DQIV from Gamestop and didn't get squat. I'm going to start pre-ordering from Amazon from now on tho.
PapaStu
02-17-2009, 11:06 PM
Did this come w/ any pre-order stuff? I pre-ordered DQIV from Gamestop and didn't get squat. I'm going to start pre-ordering from Amazon from now on tho.
Nope. None of the DQ ports have had anything so far. DQ Pocket Slime did get a keychain thing, but I think that was the last one to get goodies. I don't think DQM Joker got anything either.
heybtbm
02-18-2009, 12:43 AM
Nope. None of the DQ ports have had anything so far. DQ Pocket Slime did get a keychain thing, but I think that was the last one to get goodies. I don't think DQM Joker got anything either.
DQM Joker came with the keychain "thing" too. Not sure what it's really supposed to be.
Evan_G
02-18-2009, 04:16 AM
I can't wait to tackle DQ5. DQ4 was a well done remake, and they balanced it so that grinding was unnecessary. I played to the third chapter in DQ5 using the Partial Translations/ Dejap patch, but I got stuck needing to grind a while (the mosters you get earlier in the game are too weak, and you have to level up the ones you aquire, not to mention some of the human charters, but I am not giving anything away). However, Star Ocean is coming out soon, and I may decide to play that instead.
c0ldb33r
03-19-2009, 02:50 AM
I'm not trying to derail the thread, but what is the best remake of the original Dragon Quest?
Cryomancer
03-19-2009, 04:02 AM
Probably the super famicom DQ I and II. If you decide to play the fan translation though, I had some weird buggy issues with II that took some emulator switches and cheating to get around.
kupomogli
03-19-2009, 04:07 AM
The GBC version of DQ1 and 2 gave you twice as much GP and EXP per battle. I don't know if the SNES version does that, but if not, that alone makes the GBC version worth playing because the first game in the series is a piece of crap compared to most RPGs(and this is actually coming from someone which the original Dragon Warrior was his first ever RPG, which back then I did actually like the game.)
Cryomancer
03-19-2009, 04:12 AM
Yeah and Doom is a piece of crap compared to most FPS, right?
kupomogli
03-19-2009, 04:40 AM
oh and the loading times would kill you in the meantime(battles are frequent), I already played chrono trigger and final fantasy IV,V,VI on psx - never again, (after I finished them on snes),
playing them without loading times is just the way they were meant to be played.
Very true. Final Fantasy I and II look gorgeous on the PSP, but the load times are a real put-off. I'll stick with the DS.
Final Fantasy 4 actually had the same load times the SNES version had. With Final Fantasy 5 and 6 they tried to keep it like the newer games did, by having that swirling effect before entering battle. So yeah. It was just bad design on Squaresoft's part.
It doesn't necessarily mean there will be long load times because the game has is disc and not cartridge. Take a look at Brave Story for the PSP. The game has minimal load times and some of the best graphics on the system. The PS2 game Rogue Galaxy has almost no load times throughout the game and the graphics are also some of the best on the system. The Star Ocean remake and SO2 rerelease on the PSP have less than a second load time when entering areas though battles have about three seconds load times(not too bad, considering the load times on DQ4 DS has atleast a full second for entering areas has about two seconds during battles.)
However. Given the format, disc games usually do have load times.
Anyways. If Dragon Quest 4, 5, and 6 were put on the PSP, they'd also probably look like the PS2 version of 5 rather than the PSX version of 4. So you would gain a second or two extra in load time per battle while you'd make out with better graphics. Dependent on who you are it'd be worth it. I'd rather have a compilation of all three on the PSP with PSX quality graphics though, meaning if it's developed well the load times if more would be no more than a second extra(since all three games are probably being created on the same engine.)
c0ldb33r
03-19-2009, 01:33 PM
Probably the super famicom DQ I and II. If you decide to play the fan translation though, I had some weird buggy issues with II that took some emulator switches and cheating to get around.
That's a neat idea, but I'd like to have an actual cartridge though.
The GBC version of DQ1 and 2 gave you twice as much GP and EXP per battle.
That's all I needed to hear. I don't mind grinding but I played the original NES version (never beat it) and it was grind-city.
aingevt
03-19-2009, 09:26 PM
That's a neat idea, but I'd like to have an actual cartridge though.
That's all I needed to hear. I don't mind grinding but I played the original NES version (never beat it) and it was grind-city.
Be prepared to pay for it if you want it complete. I just got it earlier in the month and it was pretty expensive, for a relatively common GBC game anyway. Plus they retain some of the old school annoyances not found on the recent DS remakes. Like every time you heal someone it takes you back to the main menu and you have to do magic>heal>hero again. Plus the walking speed is like the originals, so again if you're use to the DS remakes it kind of sucks.
But overall I'd recommend this version. Even with the stupid stuff I'm still really enjoying them.
kupomogli
03-20-2009, 01:23 AM
Yeah and Doom is a piece of crap compared to most FPS, right?
Let me guess. You're one of those people who praise the game to this day because it was amazing BACK WHEN IT WAS THE ONLY RPG OUT. The original game is not only one of the worst RPGs created, but one of the worst on the system it was created on.
Like I said in that last post. It was my first RPG and I loved it for the longest time. Then I came to my senses. "You know, why am I even playing these pos grindfest again." Yes Dragon Warrior is what made console RPGs what they are today, but that doesn't make it a great game. Being the first ever of a genre does not make it the best. Yes, it's got nice music, the world itself is nice, enemy design is the best in any RPG, but that's where it ends as the gameplay is terrible and it takes 99.99999999999999% of the games time.
The only good thing about the original Dragon Warrior nowdays is how much they actually catered to the fans of the original in the second half of Dragon Warrior 3. Back when I first beat Dragon Warrior 3 it was much more amazing because you never knew it was a prequel to the original title. It was so awesome actually finding the world of the original Dragon Warrior on the third title but slightly changed because some things haven't happened yet. Because the world of the original Dragon Warrior is well designed and only the gameplay sucks, I have no problem getting nostalgic over the games world.
Lady Jaye
04-28-2009, 07:57 PM
I haven't bought DQ5 yet, but borrowed it from a friend (who in turn borrowed my copy of DQ4). I really like it, but I'm at a spot that requires grinding (probably the same area that Evan was talking about, around level 20). My character is currently at level 20 and I don't see much difference from level 17...
c0ldb33r
04-28-2009, 08:02 PM
I haven't bought DQ5 yet, but borrowed it from a friend (who in turn borrowed my copy of DQ4)...
I couldn't do that. I hate borrowing RPGs that don't save to a separate memory card, because when you eventually buy them your characters are gone.
Lady Jaye
04-29-2009, 04:25 AM
Yeah, but the idea is that I'll have enough time to play through DQV, just as he'll have enough time to finish DQIV...
RPG_Fanatic
04-30-2009, 12:41 AM
Does anyone know when Dragon Quest VI will come out?
Cryomancer
04-30-2009, 05:36 AM
I'm guessing it's on hold in Japan until awhile after 9 comes out. 9 is coming in the summer, supposedly.
kupomogli
10-09-2009, 04:28 AM
The Dragon Quest 6 DS trailer looks pretty awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMwR2xhH_g
I don't think I'll wait to pick up Dragon Quest 6. When Dragon Quest 5 went out of print, the only way to get it was to purchase it off Ebay(none of the Gamestops around me, atleast outside an hour radius had it new.) I had to purchase it on Ebay, but I got DQ5 new, non bootleg thankfully. However, I don't really like purchasing cartridge games on Ebay once I purchased one that happened to be a bootleg. Showed a picture of the front cover of the box, described as "new," so I purchased it.
RPG_Fanatic
10-09-2009, 04:43 AM
When Dragon Quest 5 went out of print, the only way to get it was to purchase it off Ebay. I had to purchase it on Ebay, but I got DQ5 new, non bootleg thankfully.
You can still get it from Square
http://store.na.square-enix.com/store/sqenixus/en_US/pd/productID.121270600
When is DQ 6 suppose to come out?
Lady Jaye
10-09-2009, 04:44 PM
I think DQ 6 is still TBA and DQ 9 is yet to be announced (although I'd be surprised if it didn't come out).
I dunno what's taking Square Enix so long, you'd think the European localization of DQ 6 would be ready by now...
kupomogli
10-09-2009, 05:40 PM
I dunno what's taking Square Enix so long, you'd think the European localization of DQ 6 would be ready by now...
DQ4 already had a PSX remake which the DS game is based off. Heartbeat disbanded long ago and the coding was supposedly too hard to do when DQ4 PSX was going to get released to the US(which is why we didn't get the game advertised on the back of Dragon Warrior 7.)
DQ4 may have just been done from scratch but the PSX game used as a template. DQ5 had a PS2 remake, so make that from scratch as well using the DQ4 graphics and using the PS2 game as a template. With DQ6, there has been no 3d remake so they had nothing to go off in what it should look like in 3d.
No idea if this is correct. Just a guess.
Jorpho
10-09-2009, 05:50 PM
When Dragon Quest 5 went out of print, the only way to get it was to purchase it off Ebay(none of the Gamestops around me, atleast outside an hour radius had it new.) I had to purchase it on Ebay, but I got DQ5 new, non bootleg thankfully.So is this really worth picking up? The local Wal-Mart still has a few copies, but oy, my backlog is so freaking massive lately.
kupomogli
10-09-2009, 06:10 PM
So is this really worth picking up? The local Wal-Mart still has a few copies, but oy, my backlog is so freaking massive lately.
Haven't played it(the DS version atleast,) so I can't tell you. It probably is. Besides, even if you pick it up and don't play it, it probably won't drop in price since it's out of print.
One game this generation that's rare and you could say is actually good.
Evan_G
10-09-2009, 09:19 PM
DQ5 is definitely worth a playthrough. The storyline is awesome, and it really did introduce the whole concept of monster collecting. It took me about 30 hours for the full playthrough, but I didn't bother to tackle the bonus dungeon. Also, I would forgo playing the SNES version, as it is dreadfully slow going compared to the DS version, and the DS version allows you to have four characters on your party, making life a ton easier.
heybtbm
10-10-2009, 01:33 AM
I've been putting quite a few hours into DQ5 the past month. I'm about 25 hours in and really enjoying it (probably about 75-80% done with the main quest). Considering the retail failure and rather fast OOP status of the game, I was thinking Square-Enix might possibly cancel the next one (unlikely). I know one thing though, I'm buying DQ6 on day one. No waiting for it to go OOP this time.
Lady Jaye
10-10-2009, 03:49 PM
DQ5 starts off slowly (I find) but once it gets going, it's great. I really like it! :)
mobiusclimber
10-10-2009, 05:03 PM
The only good thing about the original Dragon Warrior nowdays is how much they actually catered to the fans of the original in the second half of Dragon Warrior 3. Back when I first beat Dragon Warrior 3 it was much more amazing because you never knew it was a prequel to the original title. It was so awesome actually finding the world of the original Dragon Warrior on the third title but slightly changed because some things haven't happened yet. Because the world of the original Dragon Warrior is well designed and only the gameplay sucks, I have no problem getting nostalgic over the games world.
I only played the first DQ recently, and I loved the game. It is NOT horrible or even slightly bad, and most of it is certainly NOT grindy. There was maybe one or two spots where I had to do a bit of leveling, but nothing too drastic at all. The best thing about the original is how non-linear it is. I always got the feeling I could go anywhere I wanted so long as I could hold my own against the enemies. No "the bridge is out until the architect shows up," no "I can't go here yet, I should come back later" messages, NONE of the BS that so many other RPGs use to keep you from advancing to a place you shouldn't be at. It means if you can figure out how to kill the dragon early, you can save the princess early. If you want to hardcore level grind, you can go to places earlier than you're meant to. It really makes the world feel a lot more open than most other RPGs. It's far from the WORST RPG on the NES. HAVE YOU PLAYED HYDLIDE? How about Swords & Serpents? Heck, I liked the original DQ better than the sequel, and better than some of the other RPGs that I love on the system (like Ghost Lion, Faria or Magic of Scheherezade).
Anyway, as for the DS games, I'm still playing DQIV, but thankfully I have the fifth one sitting there waiting for me. I had to start over on DQIV tho b/c I lost my DS on the bus. :( Can't wait for DQVI, and Squeenix better not cancel it!
Rickstilwell1
10-10-2009, 05:44 PM
At least Dragon Quest V for DS hasn't really jumped up in price like Suikoden II and Valyrie Profile for the PS1. The only thing is that it seems to be sold at the same retail value rather than going down in price like most DS games would.
Dragon Quest 6 does look like a better game when it comes to graphics on the original system though. I'd really like to see how good it would play on the DS.
I like it when they keep remaking these games for the newer systems, but DQ6 is even more important because it hasn't been outside Japan yet. The fact that many Japanese games that are main parts of series don't get released here makes me disappointed. Heh remember AVGN's rant on how the only good Godzilla game back in the day was in Japan.
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I don't think I'll wait to pick up Dragon Quest 6. When Dragon Quest 5 went out of print, the only way to get it was to purchase it off Ebay
This is odd. Maybe it is a USA thing. Here in Canada, there are many copies available at any store you go to.
I really wish they would release games 1-3. Yes, they are available for Gameboy Color, but they look like crap. It would be a non-issue if I didn't know that superior SNES ports existed.
Jorpho
10-19-2009, 06:01 AM
This is odd. Maybe it is a USA thing. Here in Canada, there are many copies available at any store you go to.Seems to be pretty rare from the looks of things, actually. The copy I found at Wal-Mart was the last one - though EB Games did seem to have a copy. (I could say exactly the same thing about SMT Devil Survivor.)
Cryomancer
10-19-2009, 10:13 AM
I really wish they would release games 1-3. Yes, they are available for Gameboy Color, but they look like crap. It would be a non-issue if I didn't know that superior SNES ports existed.
This would be nice. It would make a good 1-3 collection, or 1+2 and 3 separate like they usually do. Plus since they are so inter-related, the mapping work would be cut down somewhat substantially by doing them together, same for monsters, item artwork etc.
3 with the DS style graphics and additions would be excellent as hell.
Ace Comics
10-19-2009, 08:58 PM
I really wish they would release games 1-3. Yes, they are available for Gameboy Color, but they look like crap. It would be a non-issue if I didn't know that superior SNES ports existed.
I know I was hoping to see the first 3 show up on the Virtual Console in the weeks leading up to IV's release on the DS (I think Nintendo did something similar when counting down to the release of the Wii Metroid... released the older games on the VC). Maybe with Final Fantasy showing up, DQ/DW isn't too far behind.
As for a superior port, I'm fairly certain there's a remake of DQIII on the SNES, but not in NA.
Chainsaw_Charlie
11-13-2009, 11:14 AM
Dragon Quest 6 is dated for a 1/28/2010 japanese release
Cryomancer
11-13-2009, 09:15 PM
About time!
Jorpho
11-13-2009, 09:40 PM
And yet, there's still no release date for DQIX, is there?
Chainsaw_Charlie
11-14-2009, 12:23 PM
it was released on 7/11 in Japan
Evan_G
11-14-2009, 05:41 PM
I can't wait. DQ6 is a freaking awesome game, but I got fed up with all the bugs in the incomplete fan translation.
jcalder8
11-14-2009, 05:49 PM
I've just recently started up DQ 4 after picking up DQ 5. I forgot how much I was enjoying DQ 4, I just got distracted with other games. I really want to move on to 5 so I'm pushing through the last bit of 4 that I've got to play.
I can't wait to pick up 6 when it comes out. I've played a bit of the fan translation of 5 but I've never touched 6.
kainemaxwell
11-14-2009, 06:12 PM
I'm wanting a DS more and more because of this.